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No you can't. SSH isn't the only way to access the iPhone's file system. However, if you're not jailbroken, you do not have access to the root partition... only the mobile/Media folder. Changing SSH passwords or even file permissions won't fix that.

Can't what? If you restore the phone then all the data is erased anyway. If you are not jailbroken and somebody steals your phone, then they could easily jailbreak it to gain access to your data.
 
What about the new unibodies, is it THAT hard to peer slightly at an angle to check your battery status?

What is it about conveinance for others that irks you so much?

Apparently you missed the part where I said it was a joke. I said the same thing about myself when Dashboard first came out. You're looking way too far into this.
 
Apparently you missed the part where I said it was a joke. I said the same thing about myself when Dashboard first came out. You're looking way too far into this.

I'm just annoyed by your dissmissive attitude towards other preferences, thats all.
 
Can't what? If you restore the phone then all the data is erased anyway. If you are not jailbroken and somebody steals your phone, then they could easily jailbreak it to gain access to your data.

I realize this.... hence being one of my reasons why jailbreaking isn't good. I understand why other people like to jailbreak... I know the reasons already. I just decided to post my thoughts on why *I* seem to always revert back to a stock system every time I jailbreak. I'm just trying to figure out why I don't like it so much.
 
PDAnet

Only reason I have my iPhone JB.

I'll risk paying 199 for a new phone for the all the random reasons "something might go wrong" vs paying ATT 60 a month for yet another "unlimited" data plan for when I want to tether it to my laptop.
 
PDAnet

Only reason I have my iPhone JB.

I'll risk paying 199 for a new phone for the all the random reasons vs paying ATT 60 a month for yet another "unlimited" data plan for when I want to tether it to my laptop.

AT&T doesn't have a tethering plan for the iPhone anyway... so how would you pay $60 more a month?
 
AT&T doesn't have a tethering plan for the iPhone anyway... so how would you pay $60 more a month?

• 5GB Data Cap (just like Blackberry users) - AT&T will automatically turn off your tethering connection if you use too much bandwidth. Of note, the 5GB cap might get sliced for all users, not just iPhone users, in order to accommodate all new tethering plan customers (bandwidth demand).
• Initial connection through iTunes? (not sure if this is every time you connect, or just for initial setup)
• Expected speeds: GPRS: 30k - dialup speeds / EDGE: 110k - ISDN speeds / 3G: 1000k - slow broadband.
• You’ll want to disable auto-updates for everything, so as to not go over usage limitations.
• Will be +$30/month, new iPhone plans may be rolled out with tethering rolled in.
• Do not pro-rate tethering/bandwidth, it can become a nightmare, instead wait until new billing cycle.
• For unlimited bandwidth, AT&T will tell you to get a wireless PC card.
• No idea on a launch date.

It's been announced.
 
AT&T doesn't have a tethering plan for the iPhone anyway... so how would you pay $60 more a month?

You missed the point of my post, I know they don't have the tethering plan, it was simply a reason to JB an iPhone.

PDAnet vs ATT's 60 bucks a month for their laptop connect cards, seperate data plan because they don't have a tethering plan.

When they offer a resonable solution of speed and no 5gig data cap I'll go back to a non-JB iPhone, until then it stays.

It's been announced.

Yes that was announced back in Nov 08? 4 months later not a word or further information. If I had to guess it will be when a 3.0 iPhone shows up maybe July 09 or farther out, until then PDAnet is a great reason to JB.
 
I haven't re-jailbroken my phone in a while just because I figure I'll end up going stock again and it takes forever to re-sync 12 gigs of music, video, and picture.
 
I haven't re-jailbroken my phone in a while just because I figure I'll end up going stock again and it takes forever to re-sync 12 gigs of music, video, and picture.

That's the same exact problem I have. Every time I decide to jailbreak... I like it for a few days and then I end up restoring it back to stock again. I guess what bothers me most about a jailbroken iPhone is that I don't know what's REALLY going on behind the scenes. Are there other things running in the background that aren't supposed to be there? Are there extra files being installed that I don't need or want? Sometimes when I install an App from Cydia, I have to reboot my iPhone or kill the SpringBoard... then for some reason it won't tell me my battery usage until I charge it back to 100% again. Stuff like that bothered me. I guess I just like the piece of mind of knowing that whatever is going on behind the scenes were intended by Apple.... I like knowing that if my iPhone is acting funny, it's not something I did or it's not something that QuickPwn or Cydia did.

Thread over.
 
People who have this unnatural fear of jailbreaking

Mike you seem to be the resident demigod on all things re:jailbreak.

I have jailbroken my device literally around 60-80x and have always experienced lag and bugginess.

Would you be able to walk me (with baby steps) through the exact process whilst I do it step by step, so that I too can have a jailbroken iPhone just like yours with no lag and no bugginess and all apps perform exactly and as snappy as a stock iPhone?

I'd be very appreciative.

That's the same exact problem I have. Every time I decide to jailbreak... I like it for a few days and then I end up restoring it back to stock again. I guess what bothers me most about a jailbroken iPhone is that I don't know what's REALLY going on behind the scenes. Are there other things running in the background that aren't supposed to be there? Are there extra files being installed that I don't need or want? Sometimes when I install an App from Cydia, I have to reboot my iPhone or kill the SpringBoard... then for some reason it won't tell me my battery usage until I charge it back to 100% again. Stuff like that bothered me. I guess I just like the piece of mind of knowing that whatever is going on behind the scenes were intended by Apple.... I like knowing that if my iPhone is acting funny, it's not something I did or it's not something that QuickPwn or Cydia did.

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Do you have OCD?
 
Spaz all your reasons are non valid because you can just restore back to factory state any time
 
Spaz all your reasons are non valid because you can just restore back to factory state any time

ALL of my reasons aren't valid because I can restore my iPhone? That's ridiculous. So you're saying... I shouldn't have a problem with running a jailbroken iPhone knowing that I can restore it at any time? DUH! I know I can restore it... it's not the restoring that I'm worried about... it's the part where I have to USE my iPhone... so I'd rather use it un-jailbroken (for now at least)

I am fully aware that this probably isn't the last time I'm not going to jailbreak. In a month from now, I may change my mind again... jailbreak... and change my mind again back to un-jailbroken again. It always happens... always.
 
Mike you seem to be the resident demigod on all things re:jailbreak.

I have jailbroken my device literally around 60-80x and have always experienced lag and bugginess.

Would you be able to walk me (with baby steps) through the exact process whilst I do it step by step, so that I too can have a jailbroken iPhone just like yours with no lag and no bugginess and all apps perform exactly and as snappy as a stock iPhone?

I'd be very appreciative.

If you jailbroke yours 60-80X, you are doing something wrong. :)

Unfortunately even stock iPhone's apps crash on occasion and lag as well. With that said, my Jailbroken iPhone seems to operate no different than a stock iPhone. :)
 
OP pretty much hits it right on the head.
Especially number 7.

Yeah, I jailbroke a few months ago, saw what there was to see, and then went back to stock.

Cycorder and a couple of other apps were nice, but the fact that my phone started crashing and freezing just got too annoying. (Not saying it was Cycorder's or any other app's fault. But after the jailbreak it was laggy and crash prone. This went away when I went back to stock.)

I played with the NES ROMS for a bit. That was one of those things that the IDEA of doing was MUCH cooler than actually doing. Played about 3 minutes of Zelda before I stopped and never used it again. Not trying to minimize the effort it took to port this over however. Props to that effort.

I'm an IT geek, so playing around in the file structure was kind of cool.

All the neato interface customization things like changing themes, etc. just got old after a few days or so. It was more fun setting it up than actually keeping it on the phone.

Bottom line for me, the instability was irritating.
Maybe other people's jailbreak configurations are stable. That's great for them. Just didn't work out for me consistently.

Maybe I'll try it again sometime and see how the stability goes.

I mean, I loved Snapture, but frequently when I tried to take a picture of my son, the phone locked up. Very annoying. It needs to work when I need it to. Reliably being able to catch my son doing something cute is much higher on my list of priorities than having a modded phone. Yep. Always will be. I did manage to get some video through Cycorder that was great. Its just a shame that the stability in general wasn't good in my experience.
 
Personally, I think the unstable/laggy is a pretty weak reason. A jailbroken iPhone is like your computer.

No matter what kind of computer you have, you can add enough junk/unreliable programs/applications until the computer is slow, unstable and crash happy. If you just jailbreak your phone and do not download or modify anything, your phone will be just as smooth and reliable as the stock phone. What you choose to do from there will directly effect your phones performance.

I understand it is not as simple as comparing a phone to a computer, because there are tons of other variables as well, but there are similarities. And especially as computer savvy people (which I assume most of you are), you should be able to jailbreak your phone without causing any lag/crashes.
 
Personally, I think the unstable/laggy is a pretty weak reason. A jailbroken iPhone is like your computer.

No matter what kind of computer you have, you can add enough junk/unreliable programs/applications until the computer is slow, unstable and crash happy. If you just jailbreak your phone and do not download or modify anything, your phone will be just as smooth and reliable as the stock phone. What you choose to do from there will directly effect your phones performance.

I understand it is not as simple as comparing a phone to a computer, because there are tons of other variables as well, but there are similarities. And especially as computer savvy people (which I assume most of you are), you should be able to jailbreak your phone without causing any lag/crashes.

What's the point of jailbreaking if you don't do anything with it? So you're saying, jailbreaking does not slow down your phone... it's what you install that slows it down. So what's the point in jailbreaking at all if that's the case? I'd rather run stock and enjoy my phone than to worry if I installed something that is affecting the performance of my phone.
 
What's the point of jailbreaking if you don't do anything with it? So you're saying, jailbreaking does not slow down your phone... it's what you install that slows it down. So what's the point in jailbreaking at all if that's the case? I'd rather run stock and enjoy my phone than to worry if I installed something that is affecting the performance of my phone.
I agree, there's no reason to jailbreak if there isn't anything offered that you need.

So what exactly is the point of posting this thread?

It's like posting, My Top 10 Reasons to NOT visit England. WHO CARES?!
 
I agree, there's no reason to jailbreak if there isn't anything offered that you need.

So what exactly is the point of posting this thread?

It's like posting, My Top 10 Reasons to NOT visit England. WHO CARES?!

I posted this because I'm always switching between jailbroken and not jailbroken. I wanted to find out and share with others why I seem to have the tendency to do that. Maybe when I think about jailbreaking again, I can pull up this thread and look at my reasons again.
 
I posted this because I'm always switching between jailbroken and not jailbroken. I wanted to find out and share with others why I seem to have the tendency to do that. Maybe when I think about jailbreaking again, I can pull up this thread and look at my reasons again.

Just admit it, it's another one of your attention seeking stunt.
 
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