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If I may offer a suggestion, a desk reference like Everymac would be enriched by including a section just beneath the official OS support section [see below * as a generic example], where Everymac could report higher (and lower) OS versions which are demonstratively known by the Mac user community to run on a particular Mac model — replete with community-based links to static sites which can walk one through the steps on how one may do so on their own Mac. No, those community links aren’t commercial or sponsored, but they are instructive, informative, and are frequently peer-reviewed.

It might work to do:

Minimum Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah

Just throwing stuff out and seeing what sticks here. For PowerPC Macs, you obviously would have N/A for Windows support, unless you really want to shoot the moon here and link Virtual PC.
 
It might work to do:

Minimum Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah

Just throwing stuff out and seeing what sticks here. For PowerPC Macs, you obviously would have N/A for Windows support, unless you really want to shoot the moon here and link Virtual PC.
Minimum would be supported and unsupported, too -- for instance, users here have managed to install Mac OS 8.1 on their Lombards, and Mac OS 9 on their minis, FW800s, and iBook G4s.​
 
That is not what the **** happened here? Someone openly called the site a bad source of information... That's not a correction that's an insult.

They went and PROVED how it was a bad source of information.

Facts don't care about your feelings, gender, identity, political party, religion, belief in whether the 2020 election was stolen or not, your membership in FOTM clubs, your skin color, who you go to bed with, or fragilities of any kind. They are FACTS. Facts don't care, because they are facts.

FACT: They didn't have the processors said site explicitly "believes" happened. Your beliefs are irrelevant if the FACTS contradict what is really happening.

FACT: IDE bus was absolutely 10,000% wrong.

FACT: iMac G5's do not support 2.5 GB of RAM.

Are those pieces of fake news still at everymac.com? If so, we have some serious issues with being honest and truthful with the people who visit that site. Then they come here and we have to tell them how much of a fake news site it tends to be, and said person who came here then digs their heels in the sand and is incalcitrant. So yeah, fake news really screws the pooch here.
 
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It might work to do:

Minimum Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Mac OS--blah blah
Maximum SUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah
Maximum UNSUPPORTED Windows (for Intel Macs)--blah blah

Just throwing stuff out and seeing what sticks here. For PowerPC Macs, you obviously would have N/A for Windows support, unless you really want to shoot the moon here and link Virtual PC.

Yes, that would work just fine, bringing all of them into one section (versus the separate section suggestion I offered earlier).
 
That is not what the **** happened here? Someone openly called the site a bad source of information... That's not a correction that's an insult.

@everymac hopped on, made a complaint, and suggested we correct incorrect information posted on their web site. I did so. I did so publicly for two reasons: because they made the invitation right here, on this discussion, and having those corrections posted in the open, along with suggestions, does two things. One, it lets other readers review and correct a mistake I made, and two, transparency curtails stuff which could percolate, get dropped into a dead letter office of sorts, or become a “they-said, but they-said” conflict.

If one provides a factual online (or offline) resource, especially one which is commercialized, then it behooves one to maintain corrections as a community is able to volunteer delivering them — or, the community may turn to other resources.
 
Oddball's serial confuses every single serial detector, including EM's. The Bookyard echoes it, so does PowerbookMedic, and MacUpgrades has no idea what it is besides being a G4 tower. They all spit out the same wrong info: Power Mac G4 AGP 500MHz with 27GB drive, 16MB VRAM, and 256MB RAM.
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The spec sticker on the back and the processor itself both agree that it's actually 450MHz and had a 10GB hard drive and 128MB RAM at manufacture, and the graphics card that came with it was an 8MB Rage 128. This is an extreme example of probably a school Mac, and this stuff is exactly why I named it that, just that serials aren't always reliable. I agree that it's helpful, I use it all the time and have based purchases around info I got on EveryMac. But it's not infallible.

OK, speaking as one of the customers who got a raw deal from this, the first round of Power Mac G4s, Apple did a mid-stream bait-and-switch on or around 13 October 1999, in which they down-clocked all three offerings — the Yikes! 400MHz and Sawtooth 450 and 500MHz — to 350, 400, and 450, respectively, due to a chip manufacturing shortage from being unable to certify enough of the 500MHz-rated CPUs. They did this without lowering the prices, either. Which meant — as was the case for me — the Yikes 400MHz G4 I ordered from Apple a couple of days before the announcement took a while to get to me (arriving in early November) and came with a 350MHz CPU.

So if you’re seeing 450MHz on your G4 but you’re seeing 500MHz in a look-up — yours being manufactured on the 14th week of 2000 (“014”) — then you have one of these down-clocked models.

To be fair, neither are Apple, who claim that the Lombard had an 83MHz system bus and that thr Sawtooth can only.boot as far as Mac OS 9.0. I still trust EveryMac more than I do them, but I trust these forums more than I do EM.

Legit.
 
If memory serves me, I initially tried creating the USB installer from a DMG and it didn't work. Burning a DVD and then imaging that to USB, however, has been faultless. I don't understand why but for me, the main thing is that it works. :D

Hopefully that method will have a positive outcome for you as well. :)
That's because the target drive has to be fooled into believing it's installing from an optical disk. I had to do the same to install Snow Leopard (10.6.7 not 10.6.3) on a partition of an external USB drive. Basically, I had to create a virtual 10.6.7 CD from the DMG on my iMac and then it would install from there.
 
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@everymac hopped on, made a complaint, and suggested we correct incorrect information posted on their web site. I did so. I did so publicly for two reasons: because they made the invitation right here, on this discussion, and having those corrections posted in the open, along with suggestions, does two things. One, it lets other readers review and correct a mistake I made, and two, transparency curtails stuff which could percolate, get dropped into a dead letter office of sorts, or become a “they-said, but they-said” conflict.

If one provides a factual online (or offline) resource, especially one which is commercialized, then it behooves one to maintain corrections as a community is able to volunteer delivering them — or, the community may turn to other resources.
A lot of talk about everymac! I didn't even know about it, as for years I've used Mactracker whose model index has a list that includes a) a picture and b) the start/end dates of the model, both essential requirements IMO if you're looking up a past Mac .
 
If memory serves me, I initially tried creating the USB installer from a DMG and it didn't work. Burning a DVD and then imaging that to USB, however, has been faultless. I don't understand why but for me, the main thing is that it works. :D

Hopefully that method will have a positive outcome for you as well. :)

This is the big reason why I keep a partition that is a “restored install dvd” on the hard drive. I’m only screwed now by hard drive failure, as I can always boot from the emergency drive to reinstall.
 
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A lot of talk about everymac! I didn't even know about it, as for years I've used Mactracker whose model index has a list that includes a) a picture and b) the start/end dates of the model, both essential requirements IMO if you're looking up a past Mac .

Mactracker is another good source!
 
There is an ARM version of Windows which can be virtualised. No need to translate x86 code and kill performance in the process.
Not virtualized.. I am talking bootcamp :), sure Paralells and Vm Ware Fusion can emulate x86, but M1 can't use bootcamp just like PowerPC can't.
 
Not virtualized.. I am talking bootcamp :), sure Paralells and Vm Ware Fusion can emulate x86, but M1 can't use bootcamp just like PowerPC can't.
It's possible (apologies if I'm wrong...) that you may be confused? Parallels and Vm Ware do not emulate; they virtualise the guest OS e.g. Windows. In other words the guest OS needs to be the same architecture as the host. Recent versions of Windows have an ARM version which can be virtualised on an M1 Mac in Parallels. You don't need Bootcamp for Windows ARM, just the latest version of Parallels.

Having installed Windows ARM, you can then run older versions of Windows apps as the OS has an equivalent of Rosetta to EMULATE those apps within the VIRTUALISED OS.
 
Just wanted to quickly chime in and say I'm really grateful for the work of EveryMac. It's a great starting point for learning about any Mac, but just like any internet resource, it's good to use multiple sources to be sure.
For 99% of the time, I've found EM is correct. But for that 1%, I still have MacRumors.

I think we all need more gratitude for the resources available. It's hard to understate the value and importance of having wiki-style websites for newcomers, even if they're never going to be perfect. And it takes a lot of work to make these resources in the first place.

Another source I like which hasn't been mentioned is LowEndMac. It's especially enjoyable reading about people's PPC solutions 10-20 years ago, but it makes me jealous that they had access to so many parts and CPU upgrades back then... alas... at least we have cheap SSDs now.
 
Because corporations may not be people, but they sure know how to act like petulant children.
Well, for one thing, if you want a Windows-on-ARM device now there are some options. For the other thing, Apple would need to provide Windows drivers for their custom hardware. I'm not saying this won't happen if MSFT reverse course, of course.
 
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Well, for one thing, if you want a Windows-on-ARM device now there are some options. For the other thing, Apple would need to provide Windows drivers for their custom hardware. I'm not saying this won't happen if MSFT reverse course, of course.

Like I said, corporations aren’t people, but they sure do know how to behave like children. :D

kid 1: “It’s my architecture solution!”
kid 2: “Yeah but you had that other architecture solution you’re not using! Gimme it!”
kid 1: “No it’s mine and you can’t play with it until you give me your drivers first!”
kid 2: “FINE YOU CANT HAVE IT BECAUSE THEYRE MY DRIVERS… MOOOOOOOOMMMM…”
 
It's possible (apologies if I'm wrong...) that you may be confused? Parallels and Vm Ware do not emulate; they virtualise the guest OS e.g. Windows. In other words the guest OS needs to be the same architecture as the host. Recent versions of Windows have an ARM version which can be virtualised on an M1 Mac in Parallels. You don't need Bootcamp for Windows ARM, just the latest version of Parallels.

Having installed Windows ARM, you can then run older versions of Windows apps as the OS has an equivalent of Rosetta to EMULATE those apps within the VIRTUALISED OS.
sorry for my english.. I mean virtualize.
 
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