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Nano To Reach 12 GB By Fall?

The Nano is in need of a refresh whether or not a 12 GB version comes to fruition. It seems to me the Nano is getting a lot of pressure from the SanDisk Sansa e200 series. Pricing for the Sansa beats the Nano at all capacity points and often is available with rebates to obtain even lower price points. Additionally, there is a larger 6GB version available.
 
Well, I'd love to see this happen. Right now, I own a 30 gig video, and am just about filling all of it. With all of my podcasts and growing CD collection (mostly higher quality AAC, like 190 kbps or so), the free space in my iPod gets smaller every day. If the nano gets bigger, the "true" video iPod will need a bigger HDD and extra cool features, such as downloadable games and applications. Maybe even PDA-like functionality to compete with the origami. Also, this would leave the 2-6 GB range open to iPhone, which would be really cool. Basically I wouldn't get a 12 GB nano, but I thnk it'd help the apple product line.
 
Harpo said:
When, oh when, will hard drives be replaced with flash memory?
Probably never. They'll come out with something else by the time flash gets cheap enough.
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How fast are NAND flash drives (read and write speeds, access times) compared to hard drives?

cbigfoot1987 said:
Remember i think access speeds are the sane as a 15,000RPM with NAND
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Is this really true? If it was, I wouldn't mind paying even a thousand dollars extra for a NAND flash drive for my next laptop (Macbook or Pro).
 
Preacher85 said:
8 GB or at the max 10 GB sounds realistic, but 12 would be perfect, as my iTunes Library currently sits at 12.87 GB, and I could easily do without some of the playlists on the iPod. I'm looking to buy a nano when they are refreshed to run with, as my 4th Gen 20 GB color is just too darn bulky. Here's to hoping for 12!:cool:
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Unfortunately, for those of us whose libraries soar way past 12 GB, that amount of storage wouldn't be nearly enough. Though it's no where in the near future, a full-size iPod running on flash memory would be more appealing--smaller, lighter, no moving parts, and shorter access times? All while being able to hold as much information as today's current 5G iPods? Now that would be impressive.

...then again, so would a 12 GB iPod. :p What's next? Holographic storage? Mmmmmmm...
 
This is the way I see it...

iPod Shuffle (2GB w/ 24 hour battery + available in black) - $79
iPod Nano (2GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $139
iPod Nano (4GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $179
iPod Nano (8GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $229
Widescreen iPod (40GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $299
Widescreen iPod (80GB w/ 24 hour battery) - $399

And widescreen doesn't have to be touchscreen, just that you hold the iPod horizontally and the click wheel is turned 90 degrees to match that.
 
I don't think the ipod would be touch screen since that would make the ipod a little pricey. And a 12gig flash ipod I think it is a little early seeing as the Sandisk is only at 6gig currently. If anything the ipod will be 8gigs 10 at max and don't be surprised if it cost the same the 30gig ipod.
 
I'm a little skeptical about this report. Their statement of 12 GB looks to be more based on a cost analysis--i.e., because of the price cut, Apple can make nanos with more included memory chips at the same price point. The only problem with that is you can't simply put in more memory chips because physically there's not enough space for it inside the nano (without increasing the nano's dimensions). I haven't checked Samsung's IC news but I wouldn't expect them to triple the amount of memory in the same-sized chips, so my bet is that the refresh will be max 8 GB. I dunno, that's what seems logical to me...
 
I would buy a 12gb I really need to replace my mini!!! btw whens your fall start ( i dont live in america)
 
robPOD said:
I would buy a 12gb I really need to replace my mini!!! btw whens your fall start ( i dont live in america)
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Fall usually means end of August/September (officially Sept. 22 or 23). That's when it's back to school time and getting closer to Christmas, so that'd be a good time to release an iPod :)
 
Apple maybe sending a message

SIZE DOES MATTER

And the current campaign with MacBooks and Nanos will help reduce stock of the current 'Nanos as well...
 
Nah. Shuffle, 4gb Nano, 12gb Nano

First of all, no way, as some people have posited, is Apple going to have an 8 and a 10 gb Nano or a 10 and a 12. Who would their target audience be? Both products would target the same people. It would be a waste of energy.

However, I think the shuffle will stay at 1gb and probably drop to $79. It is not currently very profitable, but as costs drop it will be more profitable. And Apple has little incentive to drop its price....it covers the under $100 iPod buyer using iTunes who wants to simple take a few tunes along.

So, Here's how I'd revise your guess:

Shuffle 1 gb - $79
Nano 4 gb - $199
Nano 8 gb - $249

Apple has well established price tiers, they won't erode them, they just have to find the right value to sell for the price. Also Apple likes to double or better your memory in iPods every $50 or so. My forecast figures that in too.


BlizzardBomb said:
This is the way I see it...

iPod Shuffle (2GB w/ 24 hour battery + available in black) - $79
iPod Nano (2GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $139
iPod Nano (4GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $179
iPod Nano (8GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $229
Widescreen iPod (40GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $299
Widescreen iPod (80GB w/ 24 hour battery) - $399

And widescreen doesn't have to be touchscreen, just that you hold the iPod horizontally and the click wheel is turned 90 degrees to match that.
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zap2 said:
12Gb seems high, what about

2Gb Shuffle-99
4 Gb Nano-149
8GB Nano-199
10Gb Nano-249
True Video iPod 40Gb(touch screen)-299
True Video iPod 80Gb(tough screen)-399


That way people who dislike the touchscreen idea, still have a Nano with Click Wheel, and still hold lots of songs
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Tough screens would be nice, I hate scratches :D

mowry said:
The plural of Nano is Nanos. Apostrophes are for possesives and contractions, not plurals.
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Correct, but isn't nano a latin prefix? hence, should it not be Nanes (as in dux, duces)

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BlizzardBomb said:
This is the way I see it...

iPod Shuffle (2GB w/ 24 hour battery + available in black) - $79
iPod Nano (2GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $139
iPod Nano (4GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $179
iPod Nano (8GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $229
Widescreen iPod (40GB w/ 16 hour battery) - $299
Widescreen iPod (80GB w/ 24 hour battery) - $399

And widescreen doesn't have to be touchscreen, just that you hold the iPod horizontally and the click wheel is turned 90 degrees to match that.
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24 hour battery with a 4 inch screen? Maybe in a few years or with the screen in "black and white mode"
 
Out of interest (having only ever owned hard drive-based iPods), does anyone know the number of write-cycles for flash-based iPods?

If the number of read/writes possible for flash-based products would be less than currently possible with a hard disk, I can imagine this being the significant factor that holds back a transition from hard disks to flash products (both in entertainment devices like the iPod, and in Apple's laptops), possibly moreso than price, even.
 
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