BlizzardBomb said:
The problem with having a 2gb shuffle is that once you get past 1gb, the no screen system starts to work much less effectively.
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Nano To Reach 12 GB By Fall?
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The problem with having a 2gb shuffle is that once you get past 1gb, the no screen system starts to work much less effectively.
BenRoethig said:
while i'd generally agree there's a limit to what's needed on such a device, i don't get the logic of "beyond X size, the shuffle system doesn't work".
sure it does. why can't i shuffle 200 songs instead of 100? or 500 instead of 200? the fact is, there are some people it appeals to, and some it doesn't. if it doesn't appeal to enough people to be profitable, apple will drop it.
bigandy said:24hr battery? probably not. 40Gb proper video ipod? doubt it...
I'm talking about music playback here
The current one is 20 hours, so a bigger cache and a better battery should get it up to 24 hours.Mtn Tamale said:
No nano for $149? I don't think so, they won't dump that price point after having a model there for so long. I think it's much more likely that they'll just double the current sizes and keep the same prices. And hopefully do the same with the shuffles.
Also, isn't apple rumored to have the video ipod in addition to the current big ipod, not as a replacement? I still think the sizes are too small, I'd love to see 150-200 gig ipods and beyond at some point.
I wish they'd update before fall, the nano is way overdue and not nearly as price competitive as it was months ago. I'd love to buy one, but at this point it's not happening until they update.
So does nano have autofill like shuffle? I thought not, and it seems like a significant drawback.
supremedesigner said:
It would probably just be Video iPod or iPod Video, the "true" is only what people call it unofficially to keep them straight (since the current one is NOT called the video ipod).
BenRoethig said:
Some people wouldn't like it. But I'd love to see the option, the whole concept of just putting it on shuffle (and using autofill with smart playlists) doesn't change with more space.
milo said:
the $149 nano is the newest in the line, so it hasn't been that long. that certainly doesn't mean it's going to happen, but just pointing out that it really hasn't been in the lineup that long.
yeah, the rumors generally say that the video ipod would be a complement, not replacement. most people still want music first and video second. i suppose it's possible that apple could come up with a great way to make it a "true" video ipod without hurting the music capabilities in any way.
i'm 99.9% sure the nano does NOT have autofill. i'd like to see it on all pods actually. even if it would be very very slow for the bigger ones, it'd be nice to have the option...
What If...
May have been stated earlier (on this board, I'm sure it has), but what if these larger capacity NAND flash drives are intended for this mythical iPod Phone/PDA/Newton/Mega Pod device?
I so see a market for a what I'm calling a Bridge device: a Mac away from your Mac - but not a laptop. A compact, Home Folder on the go. Maybe the size of 2 iPods side x side (roughly).
I just don't see the Nano jumping from 4 to 12GB. No way. Not hap'nin.
Even if it were possible, we all know how the story goes: Apple would roll out a 6 GB Nano, sell that for 6-8 months, bump another 2GB, and continue this process until they hit 12GB (and a grip of cash in sales). Such is the way of product roll-outs.
May have been stated earlier (on this board, I'm sure it has), but what if these larger capacity NAND flash drives are intended for this mythical iPod Phone/PDA/Newton/Mega Pod device?
I so see a market for a what I'm calling a Bridge device: a Mac away from your Mac - but not a laptop. A compact, Home Folder on the go. Maybe the size of 2 iPods side x side (roughly).
I just don't see the Nano jumping from 4 to 12GB. No way. Not hap'nin.
Even if it were possible, we all know how the story goes: Apple would roll out a 6 GB Nano, sell that for 6-8 months, bump another 2GB, and continue this process until they hit 12GB (and a grip of cash in sales). Such is the way of product roll-outs.
guzhogi said:
They're talking about a 2GB memory chip coming down in price. I think originally the nano had 1GB chips in it, so like a 4GB nano would have four of these chips. So a 2nd gen nano would use these new 2GB chips nstead.
As I posted earlier, I don't see how they could squeeze 6 of these chips in a new nano to make 12GB. 8GB or 10GB seems much more likely to me.
I went to an outdoor Chinese Market here last weekend and saw all the "fake iPods" it was really funny, they look just like Nano's...and they're like 50 bucks...
of course I didn't buy one, but they're hilarious to look at.
one guy was like "these have a 90 day warranty" I just laughed......
of course I didn't buy one, but they're hilarious to look at.
one guy was like "these have a 90 day warranty" I just laughed......
BenRoethig said:
Exactly my toughts...
That's why a 1GB shuffle, 4GB Nano, 8GB Nano (or a 10GB that would be really sweet, or even better, a 12GB for me!) would make senses.
My girlfriend has a 10GB. She's just waiting for that kind of revemping...
zap2 said:
"b" is "bits". "B" is Bytes" so 12Gb is equal to 12/8GB or 1.5GB. which i actually a little on the small side.
Engineers tend to think in terms of "bits" because the memory in various different widths. For example there are many 4-bit computers used inside products like microwave ovens and the like.
ChrisA said:
This has nothing to do with bytes, though. A byte is 8 bits and always will be. A GB is a confusing enough term as it is, what with storage vendors pretending that 4 billion bytes is 40 gigabytes (more like 37). 16Gb sounds a heck of a lot better than 2GB.
And Apple will NEVER release a 12gb nano. If they can up it to a 6gb while using half as many flash chips, they'll leave the price points the same and up their profits. (lineup something like 1gig shuffle, 2, 4, 6gb nanos, 30 and 60gb iPods.
12gb is way too much for a Nano and would eat into the market of the full-size iPods.
IMO Apple will go to 8GB if they can get away with it, and thus leave the 12GB open for spring 2007.
We'll probably end up with a product line like:
$249 8GB
$179 4GB
$139 2GB
[$109 1GB, if retained]
And 40GB and 80GB iPods above that, of whatever type Apple decides to release.
I've found the 4GB restrictive because I can't have all my music with me, and iTunes' idea of a random playlist doesn't change the songs in said list, nor can I fill to capacity, e.g., New Music, Then Highest Rated, then fill the rest with random.
We'll probably end up with a product line like:
$249 8GB
$179 4GB
$139 2GB
[$109 1GB, if retained]
And 40GB and 80GB iPods above that, of whatever type Apple decides to release.
I've found the 4GB restrictive because I can't have all my music with me, and iTunes' idea of a random playlist doesn't change the songs in said list, nor can I fill to capacity, e.g., New Music, Then Highest Rated, then fill the rest with random.
sushi said:
If anything Toshiba will introduce those hd in Q1 2007. But then again seeing how the new Gigabeat S came out to some mix reviews and a battery fiasco they might bring it out earlier.
Besides if a 12gig nano get introduce you have think of where the 1, 2 and 4 gig would be priced at where a 6gig which we know will come out for sure. Plus if a 6 gig plus anything over that gets introduce like an 8, 10 or even 12 gig then I don't think the a Shuffle will come out(even if they replace some of the current Nano models) since the Shuffle will be price to low for Apple to make a good profit. But this is what I am speculating.
How About...
How about:
iPod shuffle 1 GB - $69
iPod nano 3 GB - $149
iPod nano 5 GB - $199
iPod nano 10 GB - $249
vPod 30 GB - $299
vPod 60 GB - $399
Later on adjusted to:
iPod shuffle 1 GB - $49
iPod nano 3 GB - $99
iPod nano 5 GB - $149
iPod nano 10 GB - $199
vPod 30 GB - $249
vPod 60 GB - $349
How about:
iPod shuffle 1 GB - $69
iPod nano 3 GB - $149
iPod nano 5 GB - $199
iPod nano 10 GB - $249
vPod 30 GB - $299
vPod 60 GB - $399
Later on adjusted to:
iPod shuffle 1 GB - $49
iPod nano 3 GB - $99
iPod nano 5 GB - $149
iPod nano 10 GB - $199
vPod 30 GB - $249
vPod 60 GB - $349
Doubling the capacity and keeping the price points seems very doable, and enough of an upgrade to really boost sales. I would definately get the 8GB nano if it were available. Of course, Tripling would be better (3, 6, 12)
Since the new chips are 2GB, I would say we will see evenly devisable sizes such as 2, 4, and 8GB. Basically doubling the current offerings at the same or cheaper price points. I doubt that we would see odd sized Flash iPods.hyperpasta said:
Note, I personally would love to see a 10GB model if they could squeeze 5 chips vice 4 in the Nano's form factor.
A 2GB Shuffle would probably sell well in the Thumb Drive / Music Player market -- Especially a slightly smaller sized model.
i think the iPod updates in the fall will be a wee bit more spectacular than a storage boost. By than it will have been a year since an update, so something huge should be expected. i think well see some physically smaller nanos, with some of that space between the wheel and the screen gone, with bigger capacities (The capacities are not really that important). apple has always been ahead of the curve not only as far as technology goes, but with innovation as well.
i think were in for a fun september.
i think were in for a fun september.