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Navigon Demonstrates GPS Navigation Multitasking in iOS 4

spyda said:
Uhh, that's not the point. I read somewhere on here that chat clients won't be able to run in the background without disconnecting when switching between apps, period. So, this isn't a matter of most apps not being updated to take advantage of the APi's yet. Thanks for playing though.
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Fast App Switching + Push Notifications = What you want.
 
fleshman03 said:
I'd much rather hear my directions and not miss a turn than need to turn around because I was taking a call.
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As a human you can not listen to more than 1 person at the same time. This is common knowledge so the Navigon solution really isn't a solution at all, it is absolutely ridiculous. The only thing it does is add more complexity because you'll miss the directions due to the fact you're listening to the other person (if it doesn't confuse you and the person calling already). In fact, it is nearly the same thing as it was before the multitasking. The only difference is the ability to still be able to use the gps. On the other hand due to multitasking you can also put voice in the background. As others already explained you could switch back to Navigon for the map without dropping the call. I don't know if it's possible to put the call in the background when you press on "answer". If it is, than clearly you can blame Navigon but if not you should be blaming Apple.

A real solution would be something where you let the user decide what he (or she) focuses on. The most easiest way would be by using vision. You're using it while driving anyway because you have to glance at speedometer, etc. Adding a navigation device doesn't add much more complexity to that situation. It's also a reason why a lot of people don't use navigation on the iPhone (or any other phone): they want to see the map so they can watch for roadsigns and turns by glancing at it when they are approaching a turn or something like that.

In the end, something like Navigon is only something that aids you in getting where you want to go. The biggest and most important part in getting where you want is you, the user. You shouldn't be relying completely on something like Navigon, you still need to look for things like road signs, other traffic, etc. Those devices/software mostly are out of date and sometimes simply get things wrong. In those cases you're the fix :) You don't things like Navigon all that much. It's enough if you glance at the map and get a general idea where you're going. Hearing the directions is useful because you don't have to glance that much.

Btw, if you get distracted by a phone call you would most likely also be distracted by Navigon and the like. The difference is, the call lasts longer than the nav-lady's commands.
 
TheKrs1 said:
Ok... so I have a BlueTooth handsfree in my car, and I have a TomTom GPS (second device). When I get a phonecall, while I am navigating to a destination.... the TomTom doesn't know this, and continues to announce my path. It can get distracting.

My solution? PULL OVER! You want to be on the phone, trying to find a location and receiving directions all at the same time? How about you just pull the vehicle over... take your important call and move on. You probably don't even have to stop the navigation app then... as since your not moving it won't have to update your directions. ... :D

Also while your pulled over and stopped I suspect your chances of running over a small child is reduced by atleast 50%... Don't check my math
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I completely agree!!! Don't talk and drive people!!!!!! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN :eek:
 
Super7668 said:
The only concern is, will the cpu handle those heavy duty apps and run smoothly at same time? :confused:
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It should, if don't, then it's because the app is not well optimized for the hardware.

I remember using TomTom 6 on my PDA using bluetooth headset with phone calls and all running perfectly.
 
Ive been doing this for a while now on my Jailbroken 3GS...if its a problem you can lower the GPS volume on Navigon...but its just as if youre using a real separate GPS unit, the caller will still hear it
 
Jeremy1026 said:
Fast App Switching + Push Notifications = What you want.
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How would this work with Facebook? If you've ever used Facebook chat, when you leave out of the app it basically takes you offline for chat, as you're no longer able to receive instant messages. Will this still be the case?
 
Guys at Navigon are not thinking straight. It should be no voice guidance but with map view present when you're talking on the phone with someone.
 
Willis said:
I hope Tom Tom have this ready aswell for 4.0... my app really doesn't like OS 4
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My TomTom is crashing all the time with iOS4 when entering the destination... I truly hope we have TomTom update on 21st.
 
ok so.. how is this "news"?

seems merely like free advertising for one developer (so i'm sure they're not complaining).
 
Great software idea; stupid implementation.

No way No HOW should the OTHER party actually HEAR your voice guided directions ~ it causes privacy and distraction issues to the other party; especially potentially causing an accident if they need to SHOUT over those directions for you to be heard. Who the FRACK approved this at Apple?!

Seriously this shows a LACK of common sense.

Now if they allowed this to be connected to the in-car speaker system and muted with a possible LARGE quick-look display (since such a setup/use scenario would have the driver having this unit on the dashboard) or another type of idea that would benefit the caller 3rd party and the driver in a more favourable use and without causing issues for more distraction.

Then again its up to the end user/the driver to know when to use both.
 
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I'd rather stick on the call without the voice directions but have the onscreen map in action.
 
I like it.
Hopefully the other person respects the fact that I need that guidence and shuts the h=LL UP when a direction is given !

Well, most people put themselves above there surroundings so I guess I'll have to explain the situation before the conversation begins.

I'm ok with that

Good Job Team.

Next Update : EVERY OTHER SUGGESTION IN THIS THREAD :rolleyes:
 
el3ktro said:
Good point. But when you're having a phone call on the iPhone, just press the home button and launch any app and you'll have this green "phone call bar" at the top of the screen. This worked since the 1st gen iPhone. So basically: Receive phone call -> phone call & turn-by-turn directions overlap. If you get the feeling the call will take longer, just double-press home and launch Navigon again and voila you'll see where you are going. No problem here.
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Not when I'm driving down the highway in unfamiliar parts, I don't want to fiddle with home buttons, taskbars, and app switching! :eek: :D
 
I would add as a general sentiment, that if you are going somewhere, where you don't know where you are going, the last thing you should be doing is chatting with someone on the phone, unless they are specifically giving you directions.

The usefulness of this is you can quickly answer a call and say, "I will call you back in a few minutes."

It is not designed to encourage or facilitate people doing stupid things like relying on a GPS nav system to get somewhere, which means they don't know where they are going, while mindlessly chit chatting on a cell phone, while driving.
 
Wait why are people complaining about it still navigating during a call? How is this different than it has always been with separate devices?

I have an iPhone, connected to a hands free speaker while driving, and a separate Garmin unit running through its speaker, what do you think happens when someone calls my phone?

Do you say you actually shut off your GPS when someone calls you as to not be interrupted?

Why should there be a lapse in navigation on the iPhone when someone calls. If you miss an important exit on a freeway due to the lapse, and possibly focusing on the conversation, you might suddenly have a 20 minute detour to get back on track.
 
I'm sorry. We should be asking something more obvious:

Why didn't Apple include turn-by-turn voice navigation in iOS4? Don't they want to compete with Google's offering?
 
TheKrs1 said:
You and me both.

I can't wait to see the app only get 1 star because it didn't alert the driver to the accident they were causing or something of the sort.

I see it as the modern day version of this riddle:
You have a small boat and you need to cross a river with three items: a wolf, a lamb, and a bale of hay. You can only take yourself plus one item at a time across the river. The problem is, you cannot leave the wolf alone with the lamb, or the wolf will eat the lamb. Also, you cannot leave the lamb alone with the bale of hay, or the lamb will eat the hay. How do you get all three items across the river?
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That's easy.

  1. Take the lamb across.
  2. Go back across the river.
  3. Take across either the wolf or the hay.
  4. Take the lamb back across.
  5. Take either the hay or the wolf across. (Whichever you didn't choose last time.)
  6. Go back across the river.
  7. Take the lamb across.
  8. Done.
I never understood why people thought that was so bloody hard.
 
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