Not when I'm driving down the highway in unfamiliar parts, I don't want to fiddle with home buttons, taskbars, and app switching!
but you dont mind being on the phone?
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Navigon Demonstrates GPS Navigation Multitasking in iOS 4
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but you dont mind being on the phone?
Just saw the Demo...
I couldn't see it in the afternoon as the youtube was down but...
This is really a horrible implementation of multitasking. Was this vdo a joke or something.
I am hearing voice guidance, phone call etc. what's up with that? Can't we just have navigon screen on and then the phone call on the top bar. I know it's not possible with APIs but Apple has to provide some better way to implement this.
Why would my caller want to hear my directions.
Well, anyways I think apple really has to improve apps working together functionality.
I couldn't see it in the afternoon as the youtube was down but...
This is really a horrible implementation of multitasking. Was this vdo a joke or something.
I am hearing voice guidance, phone call etc. what's up with that? Can't we just have navigon screen on and then the phone call on the top bar. I know it's not possible with APIs but Apple has to provide some better way to implement this.
Why would my caller want to hear my directions.
Well, anyways I think apple really has to improve apps working together functionality.
But... it still doesn't work. If you take the wolf over second, it will eat the lamb on the far side while you are getting the hay. If you take the hay over second, the lamb will eat the hat on the far side while you are getting the wolf.
Best solution: Use the hay to make a fire, BBQ the lamb and share it with the wolf. Take the wolf with you over the river who will now be your best friend for life like in the movies..
Plan B: FedEx the wolf and the lamb to your destination and take the hay with you in the boat.
Oh. It's not exactly a button, but a semi-transparent overlay. It has an arrow with the next turn direction, and a tiny little "speaker" icon. I had no idea you could tap it to have something happen, and I didn't see the tiny little speaker icon until now when I viewed it on my iPad in 2X mode.
Would have been nice if they'd have written a manual. Maybe you can apply for the job, LOL!
Unfortunately, I don't think the problem is with Navigon. It's with Apple. They still have some blind spots to work-out in their multi-tasking scheme.
In this case, it's not really multi-tasking that is the problem, but audio stream management. There hasn't been much of a need for audio stream management, because you couldn't have multiple apps playing audio at the same time. It needs to be possible to prioritize audio streams. Yea, this gets dicey when different apps have different ideas about the "correct" priorities, LOL.
In a fully-integrated GPS/phone/radio/car system, the GPS will override the radio. The phone will override the GPS (which still has a visual indicator). A subtle "beep" tells you that you have a turn coming up.
Will be interesting to see how they handle music being played by iTunes or some third-party streaming player, vs. what they do now with their own internal music player. That is, right now they do fade the music down before audio instructions, and back up after. Will the new version do this with a third-party player?
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No it wont. You bring the lamb back with you to the near side so the wolf is never left alone with it.
No, because you bring the lamb back with you to the nearside so it can't.
Not annoying - sounds like the future to me!
http://www.theonion.com/video/new-google-phone-service-whispers-targeted-ads-dir,17470/
Lol that's funny!
Maybe I'm the only one, but I'd rather the voice on the navigation was silenced and the display showed the navigation app. When speaking to someone, do I really need to see the caller app. If I want to cancel then I'd rather the app had a hang up option on the screen.
I don't know if this is possible on iOS4, but it would be better than having this. I agree that like it is, it is nigh on useless. I can't concentrate on 2 auditory streams concurrently, however I can concentrate on talking and following an on screen app that shows pictures - different processing parts of the brain. The brain simply cannot process 2 inputs into the language part - try reading a book and talking to someone on a separate subject concurrently: if you can, then this multi-tasking is for you.
Demonstration missed the sound of a screech to avoid the obstacle which the driver had not noticed because he was having a telephone conversation and listening to voice prompts while trying to drive. And the sound of an adjacent horn because the driver was not paying attention to other cars. And failed to depict the careful driver who chooses to make space when he notices the guy in front distracted by a conversation and some other tool. Must have post-processed out the barely perceptible sound of a dozen cars then having to slow down behind him.
Once you've answered the phone, the only instruction your navigation device should be issuing is, "Find a place to stop then continue your conversation." It could even play a, "Please wait while the driver makes the road safe for himself and others," to the other party.
Once you've answered the phone, the only instruction your navigation device should be issuing is, "Find a place to stop then continue your conversation." It could even play a, "Please wait while the driver makes the road safe for himself and others," to the other party.
Want it to work in a non stupid way... You know, other handsets can mute nav, show the map while talking on handsfree.... and people most people can talk and drive that way...
Way too much of a distraction while driving. Some recent studies have underscored that hands free does NOT reduce the risks - phone conversations are believed to be as dangerous as dui.
I was focused on my car's built in nav unit while in San Francisco and slowly rolled through a pedestrian cross walk. Off course - the pedestrians in the City by the Bay were determined to exercise their rights and continue walking despite my being distracted. The passengers in my car asked if they could get out as a number of locals - via sign language and facial expressions and strong verbals asked me to pull my head out of where it was inserted.
The great news is that I did not miss a turn. The pedestrian carnage left behind was simply a cost of new technology that we have not fully adapted to yet. Oh well - no damage to the car
I was focused on my car's built in nav unit while in San Francisco and slowly rolled through a pedestrian cross walk. Off course - the pedestrians in the City by the Bay were determined to exercise their rights and continue walking despite my being distracted. The passengers in my car asked if they could get out as a number of locals - via sign language and facial expressions and strong verbals asked me to pull my head out of where it was inserted.
The great news is that I did not miss a turn. The pedestrian carnage left behind was simply a cost of new technology that we have not fully adapted to yet. Oh well - no damage to the car
Exactly. People have their stand alone navigation systems talking while they chat to others in the car and take phone calls and don't complain ... now it's all on one device their pee brain imaginations can't cope. It is a classic case of flat thinking from some and also I suspect anti Apple Trolls looking for anything to complain about. That is until, of course, their Android or Win 7 crap copies Apple and then it will be OK for them and they will brag about it.
I noticed the directions became slightly quieter, perhaps there are options settings to deal with the relative levels of incoming call and directions.
Having said that, I agree about distractions while driving though. I suspect specific directions are not as bad as you are listening to something related to the driving. One option I hope is do not receive calls while using driving instructions. Then again you would also need the 'don't allow the radio to work' and 'keep all passengers silent' options to be a purist.
That I can see coming as car makers work to integrate iPhones the way they have iPods. Steering wheel controls to remotely do the things you say is the way to go for sure.
No biggie, nothing new. I've been doing the same thing with Navigon on my phone for ages. OS 4 offers nothing that I don't already have already. Plus, I have a number of features, such as customized Lockscreen, that OS 4 still won't offer.
It's a major upgrade for Apple, but the OS is still way behind Droid and what you can do through jailbreaking. Apple's failure to keep up will cost it market share in the future, especially when the Droid market matures over the next year.
It's a major upgrade for Apple, but the OS is still way behind Droid and what you can do through jailbreaking. Apple's failure to keep up will cost it market share in the future, especially when the Droid market matures over the next year.
Navigon looks like they made an improvement on the old version... but is it improved enough?
my preference would be to be able to receive a call easier while using nav, ie receive the call and then have navigation automatically pick back up on the screen also. for visual navigation while on the phone.
otherwise it isn't quite the way i want, to hear turn directions for me isn't as helpful as having a map.
my preference would be to be able to receive a call easier while using nav, ie receive the call and then have navigation automatically pick back up on the screen also. for visual navigation while on the phone.
otherwise it isn't quite the way i want, to hear turn directions for me isn't as helpful as having a map.
It should. Navigon and TomTom can both lower the volume of streaming audio being played in Safari now, so it's not just limited to the iPod app. I'd say as long as the streaming app uses the correct APIs that currently enable the audio to be faded for alerts like new mail, SMS messages, and push notifications, GPS apps should have no problem lowering the volume as well.
Not to mention background audio apps integrate in with the audio controls in the multi-tasking dock (they replace the iPod controls), so Navigon may even be able to control other audio apps from the existing music player controls.
Anyone can do better than Navigon. I have sent their Customer Support group several emails - with absolutely no response. I was trying to order US Western Region App and then discovered that it didn't cover Alaska and Hawaii. Now, the last time I checked my maps, Alaska and Hawaii were still states - and are in the Western part of the US. What the hell is with that?! Its bad enough that Navigon has a geography problem, but at least they could respond to emails inquiring about that discrepancy. I have asked questions of smaller and larger companies than this one and always get a response. If this is indicative of their customer support I want nothing to do with them, whether they are iOS 4.0 compatible or not!!
That doesn't involve letting go of the steering wheel, stretching to reach a device on the dash, and taking my eyes off the road to read the screen of the iPhone.
So, no.