So the camera is the limitation - that's fine, make the phone as thick as the camera. Any measurements of iPhone 6 "thinness" will be a lie unless they include the camera. Kind of ruins the point.
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So the camera is the limitation - that's fine, make the phone as thick as the camera. Any measurements of iPhone 6 "thinness" will be a lie unless they include the camera. Kind of ruins the point.
If that's a dealbreaker. It's simple really, don't buy it. There are plenty of nice android and Windows phones that don't have a protruding camera lens, which you can easily choose from.
Every year there seems to be a new "dealbreaker" that people complain about. All of a sudden, the phone is released and what do you know? Everyone buys it.
there are some times I want to use the premium features, just not often enough that I care if the screen is smaller than ideal.
iphone mini is the right phone for me, stop trying to tell me otherwise.
The reverse of that is when in a car I never look back at a girl to see her face = she always remains pretty to me
please go use a current ipod touch for a week in wifi pretending it's the next iphone and see if you feel the same.
This is not Apple Design.
At the beginning everyone copied Apple, now Apple copies Samsung?. This Camera is ridiculous. This is not the well-known minimalistic Apple design. This is cheap-o Chinese design! Do they plan to reduce also the price? That construction seems also cheaper... Let's hope this is not the final design.
At the beginning everyone copied Apple, now Apple copies Samsung?. This Camera is ridiculous. This is not the well-known minimalistic Apple design. This is cheap-o Chinese design! Do they plan to reduce also the price? That construction seems also cheaper... Let's hope this is not the final design.
The design is really cool.
The protruding camera isn't a real problem, like many others I'd rather have a ticker iPhone with more battery since I'm not quite happy with my iphone's battery life, but clearly they need to shrink the phone every other year and they're happy with current battery life.
I expect some improvements on the camera since I take lots of pics on my phone, just hope the protruding camera means they added lens.
The protruding camera isn't a real problem, like many others I'd rather have a ticker iPhone with more battery since I'm not quite happy with my iphone's battery life, but clearly they need to shrink the phone every other year and they're happy with current battery life.
I expect some improvements on the camera since I take lots of pics on my phone, just hope the protruding camera means they added lens.
Man oh man, the excuses you are all making for Apple is making you sound ridiculous.
Bottom line is this, protruding camera is downright LAZY! Instead of keeping the phone as thick as the current phone (which is pretty damn thin) Apple had to go full retard and make it thinner which sacrifices on battery size and overall design elements i.e. we get a protruding camera.
What we get now is the SAME battery life as the 5S, which is terrible to begin with. Them stuffing an 1800+mah battery and making the screen bigger pretty much cancels out the boost in battery life.
This crazy obsession of making thin devices is going too far! Look at latest Samsung commercials, it seems they don't want to actually advertise what the tablet can do, but boast on how thin it is. Its as if the thinner it is the faster it is and better overall experience these days, which is downright silly!
Antenna bands arent too bad considering they clash far less than the current models glass panels, but they could have done better like the HTC One M8. Makes you wonder how HTC outdid Apple in that design aspect, and also take into account that the M8 has been on the market for some time now...
At the end of the day the back of the phone will be in a case, so it really doesnt matter much when you really think about it. I am just amazed how many of you people are making excuses for Apple and giving them a free pass on their design choices. Will i buy it? That will depend on the internals of the phone, camera, and sound reproduction quality.
Bottom line is this, protruding camera is downright LAZY! Instead of keeping the phone as thick as the current phone (which is pretty damn thin) Apple had to go full retard and make it thinner which sacrifices on battery size and overall design elements i.e. we get a protruding camera.
What we get now is the SAME battery life as the 5S, which is terrible to begin with. Them stuffing an 1800+mah battery and making the screen bigger pretty much cancels out the boost in battery life.
This crazy obsession of making thin devices is going too far! Look at latest Samsung commercials, it seems they don't want to actually advertise what the tablet can do, but boast on how thin it is. Its as if the thinner it is the faster it is and better overall experience these days, which is downright silly!
Antenna bands arent too bad considering they clash far less than the current models glass panels, but they could have done better like the HTC One M8. Makes you wonder how HTC outdid Apple in that design aspect, and also take into account that the M8 has been on the market for some time now...
At the end of the day the back of the phone will be in a case, so it really doesnt matter much when you really think about it. I am just amazed how many of you people are making excuses for Apple and giving them a free pass on their design choices. Will i buy it? That will depend on the internals of the phone, camera, and sound reproduction quality.
there are some times I want to use the premium features, just not often enough that I care if the screen is smaller than ideal.
iphone mini is the right phone for me, stop trying to tell me otherwise.
I'm not telling you otherwise, in fact you agree with me: the "iPhone mini" is not a premium flagship smartphone, or at least it will not be anymore as soon as the larger iPhone hits the market.
It's been a long time since Apple gave us any surprises at a Keynote, there's just too many people in the chain and too many places desperate to leak info.
This is the final design, it'll have 1gig of RAM, an 1800mah battery, a protruding camera and thick, nasty bands. I'm hoping the processor and iOS 8 can work miracles with specs from 2010 but I think in-use, with 64bit and a larger screen the battery life will be average at best and Safari refreshes and App closing will be commonplace.
I like it overall...
... except for the antenna breaks (I can't overstate that).
I must admit, though, they've grown on me since (alleged) real parts began leaking. The plastic used for those breaks is apparently not solid white (or black for the space gray model), but other muted colors to make them flush a little with the aluminum finish.
I'll wait to see it in person to decide if I'll upgrade my iP5 (there might be shortages the first weeks, anyways).
I like it better than the mockups of months ago.
... except for the antenna breaks (I can't overstate that).
I must admit, though, they've grown on me since (alleged) real parts began leaking. The plastic used for those breaks is apparently not solid white (or black for the space gray model), but other muted colors to make them flush a little with the aluminum finish.
I'll wait to see it in person to decide if I'll upgrade my iP5 (there might be shortages the first weeks, anyways).
I like it better than the mockups of months ago.
I feel exactly the same way, Apple have gone from amazing me with the 3G and 4 designs to gradual disappointment ever since, the design details are slipping year on year while the competition move on. I can't see the sound quality on the 6 getting anywhere near to the HTC's because HTC actually make use of all that front panel real-estate where Apple cram their speaker into a small, downward firing opening despite all the free space their thick top and bottom bezels give. It seems we get a much larger phone than we need to for the sake of a home button, top-to-bottom symmetry and nothing else.
I'm always defending my Apple choices to friends who insist their HTC's, Sony's and Samsung's are better options for less money and I'm starting to struggle to justify using Apple phones any more. The fact they're still hamstrung by a never-improved iTunes reliance might well be the final nail in the coffin for me this year.
On the protruding camera....
...it's not that the idea of a protruding camera that is terrible, it's that on other smartphones - like my secondary smartphone (Moto G) it can be argued that the camera protrudes as well, but because the back is convex; it's built into the shape of the smartphone.
What looks cheap, and much like an afterthought is a perfectly flat iPhone that cannot be used on a perfectly flat surface without having to rest on an odd protruding camera ring... Why make the back of the iPhone flat, when it cannot be used laying flat!
I also looked at the antenna breaks on my old iPhone 4S and current iPhone 5s, they're thin and kind of attractive in their own way... But on iPhone 6, it looks like Jony Ive got a little too excited over Tron...
...it's not that the idea of a protruding camera that is terrible, it's that on other smartphones - like my secondary smartphone (Moto G) it can be argued that the camera protrudes as well, but because the back is convex; it's built into the shape of the smartphone.
What looks cheap, and much like an afterthought is a perfectly flat iPhone that cannot be used on a perfectly flat surface without having to rest on an odd protruding camera ring... Why make the back of the iPhone flat, when it cannot be used laying flat!
I also looked at the antenna breaks on my old iPhone 4S and current iPhone 5s, they're thin and kind of attractive in their own way... But on iPhone 6, it looks like Jony Ive got a little too excited over Tron...
Good points.
But snapping on a magnetically-attached lens is pretty freakin' simple.
The hardest thing would be not to drop / lose / launder tiny little lenses.
I disagree, compared to using the ipod touch, the iphone is a fat heavy brick. No battery issues for me either. I wish the next iphone could be as thin and light as it is. protruding camera and thin light device is better choice in my opinion than the fat brick you seem to want.
Today it's most likely playing flappy bird or whatever new viral game hits the store...
But do you put a case on your iPod? Most here seem to argue that the thick antenna breaks and protruding camera don't matter because "everyone" puts a case on it - at which point all that premium material feel and "thinness" is instantly lost.
The iPhone 6 will not need a screen protector. It is made from Saphire glass. To give you an idea of what that means metal on regular glass requires around 40 pounds of force to noticeably scratch. Metal on Saphire glass requires the equivalent of 600 pounds to create the same level of damage. So damage to the screen would be hundreds of times lower on the 6 than the 5s. It's just not going to happen.
StandUP
I really hope, that someone in the audience will stand up during the announcement and say "We already know! Everybody knows, hurry up"
Shish really, since the Gizmodo incident it all went to hell. Even with the cocky promise of Tim "We will tighten up secrecy" -_-
Just pitiful...
One has to wonder how much money they still invest in trying to keep secrecy.. wasted money.
Tod
I really hope, that someone in the audience will stand up during the announcement and say "We already know! Everybody knows, hurry up"
Shish really, since the Gizmodo incident it all went to hell. Even with the cocky promise of Tim "We will tighten up secrecy" -_-
Just pitiful...
One has to wonder how much money they still invest in trying to keep secrecy.. wasted money.
Tod
That depth could be well compensated by a bigger battery and slightly thicker case
Apple went the way of Android manufacturers who cheat the size specs not taking into account camera protrusion.
That is simply not true. The majority of users put their iPhones into a case. For them, the phone+case combination will become thinner, even if the camera protrudes, because the camera will not protrude beyond the case. An iPhone 6 in a case will be thinner than an iPhone 5S in a case, which was thinner than an iPhone 4/4S in a case, and so on. That is the use case for most people.
So no, it does not ruin the point.
And frankly, even if I don't use a case, if I stick the phone in my pocket, then it will feel thinner, no matter whether the camera protrudes by a milimeter or not. If I hold the phone in my hand, it will feel thinner, no matter whether the camera protrudes by a milimeter or not.
I want a light and thin phone, and not a phone which is 20 grams heavier, because Apple decided not to let the camera protrude a bit. If someone prefers an artificially thicker and heavier phone, there are lots of great non-Apple products out there, and I assume Apple will continue to offer the 5C.