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"Planning" is very different from doing so.

I don't really put much worth into surveys such as these...

Lets see what actually happens... 6 months away isn't that far.
 
The funny thing is that people with an average household income of less than 15k/year are within 6 percentage points of being as likely to switch to the Mac as people with an average household income of more than 150k.

So, are the people in the <15k group planning on finding higher paying jobs or banking on winning the lottery?

They'll buy using a credit card. And yes, people really do that.
 
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They just upgraded my work computer to Windows 10. Core i7-6600U 2.6ghz, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD. This computer should be screaming fast, but it's sooo slow. Scrolling a 4MB PDF is laggy. Basically, not a fan of Windows 10 at all.
I would question the monitoring tools used on your work computer.
We had similar issues here when we rolled out Win 10.
Out of the box, all our new laptops were screaming fast. A few pilot users got to run them clean and loved them.
Once the corporate image was finalized, they became turds.
Between the McAfee suite of garbage and a host of other security "modifications", these machines are worse than the Win 7 until they replaced.

For the record, I opted for a 2016 MBP with Core i7 and 512gb SSD. They still killed it a bit with MDM tweaks, but it's usable.
 
I don't use a mac, but I do use windows 10 and it's awful... Cortana and One drive are won't get out of your way... Windows app store insists on installing and reinstalling after you remove apps like candy crush...In addition the OS is bloated with useless apps including the new Edge...
 
I'm having trouble making the numbers line up in this article. Mac Rumors please show your work.

Also, interesting curve there by income. highest at both ends with a fairly smooth curve between.

edit: I went and read the source article three times now too and I'm at a loss as to how they support that assertion. The headline claims nearly one in four Windows users surveyed plan to switch to Mac within the next six months. That's an unbelievable claim and would represent a seismic shift in the market with Windows currently having roughly 80% of the market we're talking about 20% shift to Mac, that sounds like a flawed study.

But then we look at the data, they don't even support the headline. Presumably these data are for Windows users intending to switch (as the source article calls the Mac users out separately) so with the highest percentage being at 20% there's no way the average across the population works out to "nearly one in four." Maybe my brain is a little foggy today, would the author care to explain how they support these conclusions?

edit 2: also the source article lists "next 6 to 24 months" as the window in the survey rather than "six months" as claimed in the MR article.

edit 3: the wording in the source article doesn't even make sense...

However, nearly 21% of current Windows laptop owners and 25% of current Windows desktop owners responded that they intend to switch to a Mac within the next six months. And of those current Windows owners, consumers in the upper income bracket (those with an average income of $150,000 or more) showed the highest likelihood of switching to a Mac: 20% of respondents intended to switch.

that's not mathematically possible.
 
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not all of us have macbook money to make that jump.

but yes im one of those getting a macbook pro in the next 4 months moving from a PC :oops:


Interesting. I'm moving from Mac to PC, because, yeah. Um. Stoopid prices and nearly 10 years of ignoring pro users. And when they finally say "we haven't forgotten about you", even though 1 legit Mac Pro update in 10 years suggests otherwise, they throw a starting price for a $5,000 iMac Pro at us. LOL

Buh-Bye! Mac.
 
Interesting. I'm moving from Mac to PC, because, yeah. Um. Stoopid prices and nearly 10 years of ignoring pro users. And when they finally say "we haven't forgotten about you", even though 1 legit Mac Pro update in 10 years suggests otherwise, they throw a starting price for a $5,000 iMac Pro at us. LOL

Buh-Bye! Mac.

which pc are you getting?

My wife has a macbook pro 2017 and it's pretty sweet.

i just hate that she already had to purchase a $90 dongle not to mention the lack of ports.
 
Actually, the reporter (blogger?) didn't say that. They said those over $150K in income were "most likely" to switch. That said, I would like to see the methodology behind it to evaluate the statistical reliability. While we know from Tim Cook that folks are switching in record numbers, Windows install base is many times larger than the 100 million active Mac users, so 20% switching in 6 months seems unbelievably high. 20% who would "like to," Absolutely yes. 20% who might in the future, Absolutely. But "planning on" in 6 months??

I agree, the idea that a quarter of windows users would plan to switch in the 6 months would equate in a unimaginable increase in Mac sales, and a dongle demand that even Apple couldn't meet!

Seriously, how could anyone manage to believe 200 million plus windows users would change in 6 months, I.e 400+ million a year run-rate, or basically more than the top 10 pic manufacturers combined not selling another pic for the next year and you still wouldn't get enough switchers.
 
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Statistics can be made to support any claim you can think of.

Being fluent across several operating systems I would say that navigating through open windows on Safari on a Macbook is annoying.
 
No wonder, with all these ransomware attacks hammering Windows machines, the average Joe is probably remembering that clever marketing campaign about how Macs don't get viruses.
 
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I find it more revealing that those with so little income plan on switching! I mean come on it's like 10-20% of their annual earnings for a machine? I'd consider those in the middle are those with jobs and little need for a laptop who can't afford it. The sample size of 2000 is WAY too small and the round 20% figure suggest they only had 5 people in the 150K bracket too!
 
They should show them the price of the MacBook Pro and see if the poll results are still the same.

Grass is always greener... While I love OS X, iOS, and the Apple ecosystem, I am becoming fed up with Apple hardware.

> MBA 11" dead after 3 yrs (bricked).
> Mac 27" dead after 2.5 yrs (all ports dead)
> Mac Mini life span = max 24 mos after two tries
> MacBook Pro (super slow after 18 months, even after clean wipe and reinstall)
> iPhone 7 Plus - haptic home button has become laggy and slow to respond
> iPad Pro 9.7 - touch disease (very frequently, several swipes or touches are required to get a response)

This is expensive stuff! I still suspect Apple has a secret hardware deceleration and self-destruct button in the HQ basement! My MBP took a major performance dive about a week after WWDC this year. :mad:
 
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I don't use a mac, but I do use windows 10 and it's awful... Cortana and One drive are won't get out of your way... Windows app store insists on installing and reinstalling after you remove apps like candy crush...In addition the OS is bloated with useless apps including the new Edge...
I have two PC's running W10 and don't have the problems you are having. Cortana can be disabled and one drive also. I don't use either one and no issues. I also removed Candy Crush from one of them and no reinstalling occured. I would suggest you wander around W10 and google how to disable those programs that are bothering you. Edge isn't "useless" it just doesn't warrant my time to learn a new browser. Firefox working great in W10.
Good luck.
 
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Now there's a funny headline... talk about taking a small aspect of a survey and reporting a headline to make it seem like something completely different. Less than 1% of the world's population makes $150k+ per year. To say 20 percent of that 1% is considering switching as a headline is just bad reporting.


It's not MacRumors. They are reporting what the market research firm said almost verbatim. I agree it is odd.
 
Hello Kool-Aid Drinker'. (supposed "disappointment" of the 2016 MacBook Pro)? I cannot recall when Apple has ever discontinued a product so soon after its release date. Following the announcement, I placed an order for one of those and canceled it soon thereafter.

Granted, I did order the June 2017 model, but even this machine isn't what I would call professional grade. I consider any Mac to remain relevant for about three years or so. I would have preferred to wait until the next generation of 'Coffee Lake' processor, but my first-generation 12-inch MacBook is already failing, and I couldn't wait for the two weeks it would take for the repairs.
your macbook is already failing? that's a serious lemon if it only lasted two years...maybe the Arizona heat fried some internal components????
 
I'm having trouble making the numbers line up in this article. Mac Rumors please show your work.

Also, interesting curve there by income. highest at both ends with a fairly smooth curve between.

They don't line up. Either Verto Analytics has made a mistake or they are misrepresenting what the numbers refer to.

The breakdown by income purports to show what portion of respondents from each group (of current Windows owners) intends to switch to a Mac. The 21% and 25% purport to be for the whole group - again, what portion of respondents intends to switch to Mac - broken down into current Windows laptop owners and current Windows desktop users.

You can't get to 21% of the total if no subdivision within it is above 20%. That doesn't work arithmetically. (And the Simpson's Paradox, e.g., would not apply here.)

The only things I can think of which could reconcile the numbers - other than a mistake or mislabeling - would be: (1) that there's another category of Windows owners (i.e. other than laptops and desktops) which has a low intends-to-switch rate and which makes the (unreported) total lower than 21+ %, or (2) that the 21% and 25% numbers are for respondents intending to switch within the next 6 months and the numbers broken down by income are for respondents intending to switch in 6-24 months and, for some reason, the portion intending to switch soon is considerably higher than the portion intending to switch later. Neither of those possibilities seem likely to me. So I'm pretty sure they've made a mistake or mislabeled something.
 
1. This is a survey of people 'PLANNING to switch'. It doesn't mean they actually WILL.
2. Mac users don't need to buy a new computer every year. Heck, I haven't bought one since 2011. How do you know that a majority of mac users aren't new?
3. I see far more Mac laptops out in the coffee shops, mcdonalds, etc. than I see non-apple mac laptops. And I live in a fairly low-income area. I can clearly see that the people who still use laptops are all switching to macs.

This whole post-PC era doesn't appear to be catching on as Apple thought it would. I enjoyed my iPad while I still had them; but once the iPhone plus series arrived, I didn't really use them anymore. I regifted them to my friends and picked up a 12-inch MacBook. Unfortunately, I found myself wanting something more robust. I ended up ordering the new MacBook Pro because I can do more things' with a full-fledged laptop than I ever could on the iPad.

I have no doubt that tablets will eventually replace the laptops, and I look forward to that future. In the meantime, I'll continue to lug around the extra hardware. I have already divorced the desktop machines with standalone displays' and that is progress, but more bandwidth and a faster processor is needed for the iPad.
 
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It says:

Windows Owners Are More Likely to Make a Switch to Mac

Now, what else are they expected to switch to? Linux?

EDIT: I need raw data dammit.

That's what I did.. From macOS no less.

It's a shame because I really liked Mac OS while I used it (since 2004). But it's becoming too dumbed down. It's getting harder to do simple things in the filesystem (/etc /usr, stuff like that) with System Integrity Protection and POSIX compatibility is suffering. A lot of apps from 'brew' have issues now. I've especially had lots of issues with forwarded X-Window apps not working well with XQuartz (which should really still be part of the main OS). Xauth failing even though it's set up correcly, weird black borders around some input controls, stuff like that.

The bug in which the intel HAXM driver (which is needed for Android studio's emulator) breaks connecting to Samba shares was the last straw. Still not fixed in OS X Sierra :(

The lack of upgradability was another thing - my current main box is a 2011 Mac Mini (Dedicated GPU version). With 2 SSDs and 16GB RAM. If I couldn't have upgraded it would have been long obsolete. In fact I don't think I could buy this config in the current model if I wanted to.
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Interesting. I'm moving from Mac to PC, because, yeah. Um. Stoopid prices and nearly 10 years of ignoring pro users. And when they finally say "we haven't forgotten about you", even though 1 legit Mac Pro update in 10 years suggests otherwise, they throw a starting price for a $5,000 iMac Pro at us. LOL

Buh-Bye! Mac.

More like "We'll think of you next year, promise!"

Also, there's no mid-pro range anymore, the mini is no longer a capable machine with everything soldered down. An iMac could never work for me as I need to use my screens with multiple computers (not to mention the glossy screen).

And yeah it's great to be able to buy cheap hardware now. But still... I wish I could still use macOS. They do a lot of stuff right too.
 
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My guess is like 85% of the people looking to make the switch have had issues with Windows 10 updates. This is one area where Microsoft is still in the stone age, where Apple OS updates are almost always seamless.
 
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