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Nearly One in Four Windows Users Surveyed Plan to Switch to Mac Within Next Six Months
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2% of Mac owners say they'll switch to Windows, and all of that 2% can be found in these forums...
You can pay these research companies to say anything you wish but it's clear someone other than Tim Coook at Apple ordered this research, otherwise, it would declare "one out of four Windows users will switch to iPad". As for reality, it's closer to "one out of four Mac users have already switched to PC/hackintosh". I see a huge uptick in DIY hackintosh like this Mac guy. It's very unlikely for a PC owner to give up the rich professional and game software ecosystem that don't exist on the Mac like SolidWorks, OrCAD, ANSYS, all new game releases, etc.
Yeah, the grass is always greener... Apple is really good at making people want their products, for sure, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily better.
Though I don't like how bloated and laggy MacOS is becoming, not to mention their sad excuse for window management.
I find Windows to be incredibly fast even on very modest hardware. There's a few things I really dislike about it (such as forced updates) but the experience is actually really good overall.
Windows updates are not any less seamless than Apple's. Please explain how Microsoft is still in the stone age.
Except most people are forced to upgrade unless you are either lucky and have an education/enterprise version or forked over the extra cash to get Pro. Personally I have no issues with it, but less tech savvy folk won't like it when they get random updates in the middle of their work. Oh and it resetting all your privacy and other settings with each big update doesn't help either.
The conclusion you reached. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Especially using the evidence you provided (I'll blame MR for that since you're directly quoting the article). How you interpreted that evidence is on you though. Ironically, the evidence does provide a solid basis for my assertion that you reached a conclusion that isn't be supported by facts. See, you based your assumption on revenue and not sales numbers. Sales for Macs went from 4.03M to 4.2M YoY for a 4.5% increase. At the same time HP, Dell, and Lenovo also experienced sales increases of 6.5%, 3.4%, and 1.2% respectively. So yes, some of the Surfaces decline could be attributable to Mac sales. Enough to think there might be something to this survey? Well, if you think the uptick in Mac sales was primarily Surfaces losses instead of a mixture of Surfaces and PC's, then sure. The likelihood of that being true is not that great. Again, I blame MR more than you because inevitably they seem to add a tangentially related blurb to the end of articles which takes the focus away from the actual topic. Surface sales are a blip on the radar of PC sales. Nothing about them can be correlated to this survey.
Blanket statement is pretty useless. This forum is filled fairly equally with Apple detractors and Apple sycophants. Neither side offering anything of value. imo, of course. The rest of us are somewhere in between those extremes and the value of our commentary varies from time to time.
In 2010, after Vista, switching to iMac was the best decision I made. This is not perfect (i don't like iTunes) but I have never regretted.
My first thought was that your response was computer generated as it lacks grammatical structure. And quoting figures without actually providing a link to where you got them from pretty much seals the deal. AI has apparently come further than I thought though it is still easy enough to distinguish from a real human.
How's that for a conclusion?
With the additional variables you get a clearer view of how close the survey participants are to your "typical" Mac users' lifestyle and workflow.
I'd imagine a local steakhouse would not want to include foreign vegans in their survey of likelihood to visit, regardless how much they earn..
I'm confused by your post. Neither of my W10 machines have the Pro version and I am not "forced to upgrade" on either machine. I decide when to download the updates AND I decide when to apply them. Sounds to me like you need to set your active hours. Set that and the option to update outside active hours and you will not get random updates in the middle of your work. One last thing, NO W10 update, including the big Anniversary update, reset ANY of my privacy or other settings.
Alternative headline: 80% of super rich people don't plan to switch to Apple.
Those are personal rants, that doesn't put Microsoft in the stone age.
Forced updates at random times can be easily changed by setting your active hours in Settings under Windows updates since one of the earlier builds (14361) of Win10. This was implemented this way because a lot of non-techy people would not update which means they are more at risk to malware, hacks, and Phishing schemes. In this day with the release of so many attacks such as WannaCry and other forms of attacks hitting major companies such as (Honda, Sony, Target, Home Depot, DNC, DoJ, etc) and not to mention IoT stuff it's a very good thing to be updated.
Try deferring updates, see how long it takes for them to force themselves to install.
From a design standpoint, I like the MS Surface better in this image. The MBP is an old design, it was beautiful at first but beautiful gets dusty quickly. I guess in design terms you could say evolve or die as well and that is what made Apple powerful to begin with. I hope for my sake (I want to continue to use a unix based system which supports the apps I use) that Apple fix up their design, philosophy and permanently embedded hardware. MS are like Apple's next big thing lately.
"Personal rants", that's cute. I would suggest checking out all the other threads across the entire internet complaining about those "personal rants". And I never said Microsoft is in the stone age, that was another user.
I was wondering the same thing. The claim is revenue is down for Surface and up for Apple. I would be curious to know if it has anything to do with Macs costing more, thus the sale and profits are higher.
Instead of sales and revenue from units what is the ratio of net profits and units sold?
Thats all people who don't have money concerns: plenty of money or kids (no money - of their own).
It's funny sine every new iteration of Mac OS makes me want to just ship to anything more and more. If I wanted an iPad with a keyboard (which seems to be what they're trying to turn the OS into), I'd have bought one.
After reading through this thread, it sort of reminds me of politics. Our side is right and better, the other side is wrong and inadequate. And don't forget the blanket statements about problems that occurred in years past and are no longer an issue, yet are still talked about as fact.
I knew a guy whose sister used a [Insert preferred operating system] computer once, she said it sucked....
I knew a guy whose sister used a [Insert preferred operating system] computer once, she said it sucked....
That ad hominem. It needs more salt.
Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/11/q1-2017-worldwide-mac-sales-up-amid-pc-decline/
As an AI, I may not be as far along as I'd like to be. But you Duane, you still can't get me to open the pod bay doors. So I guess that puts me 1 up on you. Actually, I'm up two since you won't be able to refute my contention that your conclusions were less than accurate. AI - 2. Human - 0.
Oh, Happy Canada Day!
Why did you need to see it? The fact that the information isn't there on the site tells you all you need to know about the validity of this survey. You shouldn't even need to get as far as "opt-in panel of global consumers" to know to stop reading.
One thing to point out though: "consumers" - a huge portion of Windows sales is to corporations and public sector organisations putting PCs under desks, a market that Apple have never really cracked. I'm pretty sure that Apple have a bigger share of consumer PC sales than they do of all PC sales.
All together now: Correlation does not imply causation. Or if you prefer, post hoc ergo propter hoc...
The *facts* are that in Q1 2017, Apple had not only just released new models of its flagship MacBook Pro after a long delay, but also hiked the prices c.f. the old models. MS on the other hand were towards the end of the product cycle and rumors of new Surface products abounded (they were released in Q2). That's more than enough to explain the surge in Mac sales and the decline in Surface sales.
Maybe some of that decline in MS sales did represent people switching to Macs - but there's no evidence to prove that was the case rather than people delaying purchases or switching to one of the hundreds of other PC models available.
Vaguely described surveys that don't describe their methodology - beyond content-free marketspeak - or demonstrate the validity of their "opt-in" sample ("valid opt-in sample" is pretty much an oxymoron) are not evidence.
I have, they get installed when I allow them. I put off the anniversary update for over a month. No forcing.
See here, https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft...-auto-restart-snooze-indefinitely-windows-10/
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Not enough data has been provided. Maybe the 6,000 PC owners were surveyed while standing in line at the Apple Store?
So many questions. Surface revenue down? Great, but what does the sales data show? Any write downs? One-time expenses associated with the development of the new Surface devices? No data is being provided.