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use FCP instead of Premiere and you'll be floored how much more optimised it is and how much faster it exports and edits 4k footage. And Lightwave? Wut? Newtek still exists? Talk about non optimised crappy ported software.

I cant use FCP, I bought a PC at the beginning of the year. Couldn't even get a MacBook Pro for what I paid for my laptop. As if I would waste 2500$ on a laptop without a decent GPU.

But thats beside the point. Our workflow ties in with the rest of the Adobe CC suite, using FCP would disrupt it. And FCP is Mac only, where as Adobe CC is cross platform, and considering theres only 2 Mac users left it would be stupid to use a software only 2 people can run.

As for lightwave, I cant really comment much because I opted to use Blender instead, but as a rule of thumb, 3D applications like to have ample vram for the viewport, and if their MacBooks were anything like the iMacs then they didnt have enough to cut it. I saw no issues from anyone using a decent PC laptop. When you need raw hardware power, your dollar goes a lot further with PC than Mac.

And again, the latest MacBooks would be a nightmare of dongles and adapters just to maintain compatibility with our production equipment.

At the end of the day, Macs are no longer a suitable choice for professional media creation, and the fact that an entire school that has been using Mac for 30 years is now switching to PC is very telling.
 
It would be very interesting to know what Mac model they plan to buy (really, I feel curious about what Mac models are the most appealing to Windows users)
 
"Planning" is very different from doing so.

I don't really put much worth into surveys such as these...

Lets see what actually happens... 6 months away isn't that far.
I wonder what the rate is the other way around.
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haha i agree but if windows user show the mac users how much they paid to fix their windows pc every time it gets full of viruses, spyware, crimeware, adware and everything that finishes in ware,

:D

Amount I have spent repairing/fixing up windows machines $0
Amount I have spent repairing/fixing up OSX machines $0
Amount I declined to spend repairing a Mac Laptop $3000+
 
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Anything that makes Apple look good must be false in some way, anything that makes Apple look bad is undeniably true. That's the law of the land on these forums.

And then it turns out that Apple makes more revenue selling AirPods than Microsoft makes selling its "Surface":D
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i just hate that she already had to purchase a $90 dongle not to mention the lack of ports.

What did she have to pay $90 for? You get some excellent USB-C hubs for a lot less.

The trick is: Don't buy a "USB-C hub for Mac". Buy a "USB-C hub". The "for Mac" doubles the price without any added functionality. Some with external hard drives.
 
That's your opinion. I love my 2016 MBP- it does everything I need in a sturdy, lightweight package and I haven't had any battery issues whatsoever. 8 GB is good enough for me for the foreseeable future, as I have a desktop that can be upgraded to 64GB of RAM in the event that I need to do RAM-intensive tasks in the future.
So in other words you're an average user with no professional requirements and are happy with youyr MBP. Cool.
 
You can pay these research companies to say anything you wish but it's clear someone other than Tim Coook at Apple ordered this research, otherwise, it would declare "one out of four Windows users will switch to iPad". As for reality, it's closer to "one out of four Mac users have already switched to PC/hackintosh". I see a huge uptick in DIY hackintosh like this Mac guy. It's very unlikely for a PC owner to give up the rich professional and game software ecosystem that don't exist on the Mac like SolidWorks, OrCAD, ANSYS, all new game releases, etc.

Reality check: You can't run a Macintosh without copyright infringement and without a DMCA violation. Psystar was convicted to pay $2,500 per Hackintosh that they sold a few years ago. (Not that Apple or Psystar's lawyers ever got a penny because the company went bankrupt. The reason they got sued and convicted was that they worked very hard to make it impossible for Apple to ignore them).

If "one of four Mac" users had switched to a Hackintosh, people would be taken to court and made to pay.
 
Grass is always greener... While I love OS X, iOS, and the Apple ecosystem, I am becoming fed up with Apple hardware.

> MBA 11" dead after 3 yrs (bricked).
> Mac 27" dead after 2.5 yrs (all ports dead)
> Mac Mini life span = max 24 mos after two tries
> MacBook Pro (super slow after 18 months, even after clean wipe and reinstall)
> iPhone 7 Plus - haptic home button has become laggy and slow to respond
> iPad Pro 9.7 - touch disease (very frequently, several swipes or touches are required to get a response)

This is expensive stuff! I still suspect Apple has a secret hardware deceleration and self-destruct button in the HQ basement! My MBP took a major performance dive about a week after WWDC this year. :mad:

unlucky, I guess:

> 2002 Powerbook G4 - still works - kept for posterity, but it's still useful if need be;
> 2005 Mac Mini - still works, used daily for admin backups;
> 2008 iMacs x2 - daily drivers every day since new, still work like they came out of the box;
> 2015 iMac Retina - to be honest, if that wasn't working I'd have a right to be almightily p*ssed off!;
> iPhone 4, iPhone 5S, iPad 2 - all still working albeit rather outdated.
I'll be buying another iMac later in the year and have decided that now is probably a good time to invest in a MacBook Pro. And I'll expect them to be working for many a year to some. I've also had many PCs in that time. They're in landfill now.
 
I wonder what the rate is the other way around.
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Amount I have spent repairing/fixing up windows machines $0
Amount I have spent repairing/fixing up OSX machines $0
Amount I declined to spend repairing a Mac Laptop $3000+
yes you are careful and you know how to use your computer but unfortunately not everybody is as careful as you are
and some other people has just have bad luck or someone uses their computer and click on just about anything and install just about any crap app they see

you don't have to buy anything you don't like need or want, that is perfectly understandable
i agree with you there
that is why i build a 5,000 dollar hackintosh
because i see it the same way you see it
why pay that amount of money when i can use that same amount of money and build something more powerful
and with water cooler

i know apple overprice their macs but i like mac os software better than windows os
i also like macs but they are a bit expensive
and the problem is not really the price but limited customization

also if you know how to format and install windows then you don't have to pay because you know how to fix your computer

but the ones that don't know they have to pay someone to clean install the os
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people get tired of things and they want to try sometime new or different

mac user will switch to windows
windows users will switch to mac
that just inevitable

the funny thing is that apple includes bootcamp in their macs
but why don't microsoft includes or integrate an option to run mac os from windows

yes you can download virtual machines
some are free, others you have to pay
but they don't come integrated or built in with windows

the reason why?
is because Microsoft is afraid of what will happen when that windows user try that lovely beautiful responsive mac os

and see and compare that ugly frozen chunk of ice named windows

there are some stubborn people that will deny the facts
but the fact of the matter is windows sucks

the only advantage windows have over mac os
is on games and that is because Tim doesn't do nothing about it

while VM are an alternative they are not as good as running mac os on a super stable hackintosh
right now i'm running at 10,000 mbps
4 samsung 960 in raid0
 
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And the touchbar is a pointless gimmick, I give you that.

Take a look at Better Touch Tool. There's a lot of configuration you can do with the touch bar that turns it from meh to really useful. It's totally transformed how I use it especially for apps that don't yet support touch bar but also for some that do.
 
So we should expect Mac sales to skyrocket over the next 6 months.

If 25% of the 1 billion Windows users on Earth switch to Macs... that is...

We should bookmark this thread and return on December 29th
 
Reality check: You can't run a Macintosh without copyright infringement and without a DMCA violation. Psystar was convicted to pay $2,500 per Hackintosh that they sold a few years ago. (Not that Apple or Psystar's lawyers ever got a penny because the company went bankrupt. The reason they got sued and convicted was that they worked very hard to make it impossible for Apple to ignore them).

If "one of four Mac" users had switched to a Hackintosh, people would be taken to court and made to pay.

Clue check: Go ahead and snitch on them. At most you'll get some cookies and milk out of it or nothing since the difference is DIY vs for profit.
 
Can you actually back this statement up? That a “majority of the attacks are occurring... in poor places”?

I said mostly in the Ukraine. The main lab tracking it had reported this:
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The few reported hits in the US seem to be big firms with international ties. Btw, the vulnerability was patched in March, so only those who have turned off automatic updates can be affected.

But more info has come out in the past twelve hours. Apparently it only appears to be ransomware visually. It actually is not about money.

Now most experts suspect it to be a targeted attack against Ukrainian infrastructure, most likely by Russia.
 
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I don't get it... you complain about "stoopid" prices and then mention the iMac Pro... you do realize that several publications tried to build an equivalent Windows machine at that price and failed?

The issuse with the iMac isn't just the price it's the fact that if it can be upgraded it has to be disassembled to do so. Most would agree that it's not a bad box for ~5k but it's in many ways locked in time so a jobber can't upgrade, and Apple's enterprise support isn't all that wonderful.
 
And then it turns out that Apple makes more revenue selling AirPods than Microsoft makes selling its "Surface":D
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What did she have to pay $90 for? You get some excellent USB-C hubs for a lot less.

The trick is: Don't buy a "USB-C hub for Mac". Buy a "USB-C hub". The "for Mac" doubles the price without any added functionality. Some with external hard drives.

Ah - didn't think of that.

Her hub is colored like the MacBook Pro.

Also fits semi neatly on the side.

But yes overpriced
 
yes you are careful and you know how to use your computer but unfortunately not everybody is as careful as you are

I'm not careful with mine, just lucky I guess.
My mother is the worst person in the world for using a computer and has spent $0 repairing/fixing up her computers.
I just wish she was more with it with pishing attacks over the phone...
 
So we should expect Mac sales to skyrocket over the next 6 months.

If 25% of the 1 billion Windows users on Earth switch to Macs... that is...

We should bookmark this thread and return on December 29th
That would mean Apple selling more Macs in the next 6 months than the iPhone sold during 2016. I suspect that is not going to happen. :D
 
Hello Kool-Aid Drinker'. (supposed "disappointment" of the 2016 MacBook Pro)? I cannot recall when Apple has ever discontinued a product so soon after its release date. Following the announcement, I placed an order for one of those and canceled it soon thereafter.

Granted, I did order the June 2017 model, but even this machine isn't what I would call professional grade. I consider any Mac to remain relevant for about three years or so. I would have preferred to wait until the next generation of 'Coffee Lake' processor, but my first-generation 12-inch MacBook is already failing, and I couldn't wait for the two weeks it would take for the repairs.
iPad3 lasted less ;)

Buying a MacBook for a "MacBook pro need" wasn't a smart decision to begin with
......
 
Once you go Mac, you never go back ;)
My daughter has just completed a Computer Science degree degree at university. She used her MacBook for the entirety of the course.

The first thing that she did after graduating? Went out and bought a Windows laptop.
 
Then they have to load windows on to it anyway to run software not available on mac, not seeing the point here
 
Just recently had to start working in windows again after 10 yrs of not having to bother with it and what a piece of **** it is.
Anyone that thinks that system is anything better than a dog turd is fooling themselves.
Its crap!.
 
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Still can't play Overwatch on a Mac without boot camp. No thanks.

I do have a thunderbolt display for sale though. It works with thunderbolt and nothing else.
 
Regardless of the folks who have thrown shade at this article, I am willing to bet that more folks will switch from Microsoft to Mac than vice versa.
I teach an adult ed class for older folks learning to use iOS devices. Of the roughly 80 folks in the four classes I have taught thus far I would say that at least a quarter of them plan on buying a Mac for their next computer. The halo effect for the iPhone and iPad is very strong. Many of those folks are just frustrated with Windows and have enjoyed their experience with iOS.
As with most items on this forum, posters confuse specs with performance and experience. In the iOS class I teach few of the folks care about specs. They care about simplicity, core performance and the interface.
 
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