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Extrapolating from a survey conduced with 800 people across the USA that 64 percent of Americans own an Apple product of some kind is wrong... Maybe it holds true for Gringos, but for Peruvians, Canadians, Chilean, ... it certainly does not.

America is North, Central and South America. It doesn't end with El Paso and Seatle!

"America" is understood to be short for the "United States of America." Been that way for a very long time. So let's not get pedantic.

There is also "The Americas," which is understood as North and South American continents. But I'm pretty sure neither Canadians nor Mexicans consider themselves American. And I've never heard anyone say they are from "North America." When people take about the "Americans" they are only referring to citizens of the USA.
 
I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well.

I don't live in the USA and here the cost of almost everything Apple is laughably high, I'm mostly seeing Samsung phones with a tad of LG's and I've once seen a Sony.

Besides my iPhone 4 I'm seeing very few iPhones around here
 
I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

Must be your area and social circle. I met up with a meetup group of random new people and all 7 of us had iPhones.

My entire family uses iPhones. Heck, my grandma has a newer iPhone than mine.

In my classes, at least 50-75% are going to have iPhones. It's actually a treat when I see a high-end Android phone. Especially since Apple has been using the same design since the iPhone 6/Plus. Everyone looks like they have the same damn phone.
 
Extrapolating from a survey conduced with 800 people across the USA that 64 percent of Americans own an Apple product of some kind is wrong... Maybe it holds true for Gringos, but for Peruvians, Canadians, Chilean, ... it certainly does not.

America is North, Central and South America. It doesn't end with El Paso and Seattle!

Although what you say is technically true, the term 'Americans' has for some reason been associated w/ those solely living in the United States for some time now.
 
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Well, if I were in charge of Apple, I'd be a bit worried although everything looks so fine.

When I started in the Apple/Mac-business 20 years ago you got laughed at for buying Macs or anything Apple. It was expensive, seriously lagging behind everything else and frankly, of very low quality.
Then Jobs and the i-revolution came and Apple rose to become the famous trademark it is today.
10 years ago, I still had to fight to keep Apple at my workplace, although the switch to Intel made it easier to be allowed to buy Apple, if nothing else, they could run Windows and looked better than the PCs.

Now, everyone wants macs on their desktop or in their bag, and of course an iPhone, but in the shadows lurk the money. In the last 2 years the complaining about the prices have risen. We are forced to buy MBAs to be able to afford macs and just the other day, I got word that the main IT-dept (I work at a uni) has stopped replacing macs every 3 years and aim to keep them for at least 4 years, to save on costs.
Today I had lunch with our Apple distributor and the sale of iPhone 8 is a lot slower than previous releases. People opt for older, cheaper versions still on sale or keep their phone for another year.

The competition is catching up, the HPs we buy cost half of a MBP and frankly, look quite OK compared to the plastic crap of yesteryears. My Huawei P10 is performing admirably and cost only a third of a new iPhone 8.

Apple could price themselves out of the market in the future as people no longer see the benefit of pouring out large sums for stuff not that much better than the competition.
There will always be the "fanatics" that'll buy anything to any price, but the "masses" often make a more sensible choice. So far, the iPhone has always been expensive but not as expensive it is today. I guess the iPhone 8s slow sales could very well be partly due to the prices, and the iPhone X is not cheaper.
On the mac side, the only really "affordable" computer is the MBA which by now is a 7 year old design with at least 3 years old tech inside.

If I look around at the uni, I see a lot more Android phones and PCs than I did 3 years ago, it's actually noticeable.

When I go to the US, I see a lot more Apple stuff than I do here, and I don't think that's due to us being "poor".

If Apple fail to penetrate new markets like China and India, the sales may very well slow down. Not like they're going anywhere soon, but if the spiral turns downwards it might be difficult to turn it around once more.
 
That number is going to drop significantly if they keep releasing **** like iOS 11.

All the normies (who don't troll forums) I've come across are freaking out that it turned their phones to garbage.
 
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I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.
your pool of examples might not be as big or diverse as the one in the study
 
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I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

Where do you live? I’m pretty sure not in a big city. Where I live, it’s pretty hard to spot an Android device even in public transit.
 
and we know no one stops at one, First apple device is just start.....
Exactly! When I got my first iPod I swore I would never own a Mac. After working on a Mac everyday at work I wouldn't own any other computer. Also I have 2 iPads and an iPhone.
 
and we know no one stops at one, First apple device is just start.....

...just a start unless you're poor and then you literally can't afford a 2nd apple device. People are going to place rent & food above an Apple Watch and AirPods to go with their $900 smartphone.
 
81 percent of teens also said that they plan to purchase an iPhone as their next smartphone, up from 75 percent in 2016. Piper Jaffray's survey polled 5,500 teens in the United States with the average age of 16.

Did they mean their parents are going to buy them their iPhones or do teens these days actually have $1000 to shell out for a phone?
 
Just more evidence that since that Tim Cook guy took over, Apple's been going down the tubes.

Are these new? Lots of people can afford the older "jobs" apple products, not sure about Tim's new versions..... 2/3 of my products are still "job" versions .... :)
 
Welcome to the club boys and girls. I have owned Apple products since the Mac Classic back in 1991. I used a Quadra 610with OS 8.6 that had built-in voice command recognition (primitive by Siri standards but it did work). I also am the owner of the Message Pad 120 which recognized my handwriting and converted it to text and surfed the internet back in 1996.
 
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Who knows what the future holds, and say what you will about Apple, but this is an amazing statistic. There is simply no other way to put it.
 
Like all cult themed technology, this too shall pass... just give it time. When you are at the top there is no place to go but down... luckily they have enough cash to ride out the wave for a long time without collapsing.

Everything has an end, cult technology or not. Our sun will end as well so will the earth and everything in between.
 
Did they mean their parents are going to buy them their iPhones or do teens these days actually have $1000 to shell out for a phone?

these are the same teens who cry foul on twitter every christmas when their parents don't get them an iPhone, or even the right colour iPhone.

you can poll teens all you want. Heck, I was once one too, and many of the things I said I was going to do, or buy, was NOT in line with reality since most teens do not have their own sources of income, and those that do, due to lower wages typically paid to teens have far less disposable income to afford $750-1000 phones.

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Well, if I were in charge of Apple, I'd be a bit worried although everything looks so fine.


Today I had lunch with our Apple distributor and the sale of iPhone 8 is a lot slower than previous releases. People opt for older, cheaper versions still on sale or keep their phone for another year.

Most agree the slower than normal sales of the iPhone 8 is due to the fact that most are waiting on the iPhone X. I know I am.
 
Speaking only from personal experience, I haven't purchased ANY major Apple products since about a year after Job's funeral.

I own 12+ products, including a couple earphones. There are several computers, a couple iPods, a couple iPads, a couple AirPorts, a couple monitors... and so far there isn't anything new I would purchase.

The failure to lure me into new purchases is Apple's; I am not enthused by the modern specs or capabilities or devices. That will change in another year or two, when I will have to purchase new devices to keep up with software/hardware necessities enabled by sluggishly advancing Apple hardware. Before 2013 I used to purchase a major Apple product every year.

Apple is succeeding in the general market, but not with me. My anecdote might be common. If it is, Apple could be doing far better.
 
I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

At the university it seems to about 50/50 on iPhone vs Android for students, while most Profs have older model iPhones.

But remember this is ANY apple device. Most people have an old iPod in a drawer somewhere... so it just depends on if the respondents counted that in their response or not.

Survey quality matters more than anything else in such polls but most only understand the +/- margin which is based solely on how many people that asked - not if they actually asked good questions.
 
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Most agree the slower than normal sales of the iPhone 8 is due to the fact that most are waiting on the iPhone X. I know I am.

that and combine in a price increase for the iPhone 8, that doesn't really offer on the surface noticable differences. other than glass back, if you were a non-tech savvy regular consumer, who didn't know what an A series CPU was, or Qi charging, or what "true tone" display meant. And you just walked into a carrier's store and saw the iPhone 8 for $50 more than the iPhone 7 was, but now, the iPhone 7 is $100 cheaper, or even better, the iPhone 6s, with a headphone jack is even cheaper yet again.

why buy an 8?

Apple made a mistake with the pricing IMHO. they should have killed the 6S to push forward with their "courage" if they still believe it. And then made the 7 the price the 6s is now, dropped the iPhone 8's base price to 599 to clearly differentiate it from the X but still offer compelling price point and device for non X users.

currently the lineup is a bit of a clusterfudge for non-informed users.
 
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Must be your area and social circle. I met up with a meetup group of random new people and all 7 of us had iPhones.

My entire family uses iPhones. Heck, my grandma has a newer iPhone than mine.

In my classes, at least 50-75% are going to have iPhones. It's actually a treat when I see a high-end Android phone. Especially since Apple has been using the same design since the iPhone 6/Plus. Everyone looks like they have the same damn phone.

My entire family uses Apple products too. We have so many I have lost count. And I see way more iPhones and Apple Watches than I do any other phone or watch. If I were an alien and came to the US I would think the iPhone was the only real choice....lol.
 
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