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That picture though. He looks confused and mad at the same time, like when he was forced out of Apple.
[doublepost=1464988992][/doublepost]I like Fadell and he did some great things with Nest. But I did read previously he was not liked in the Company and shunned. Definitely a contributing factor as to why he was leaving.
 
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Wow, arrogant much? And what's with all the interviews? Is he really that big of a deal in Silicon Valley?
 
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I appreciate some of the things he did at Apple, but the guy kinda has a reputation for conflict. Selling to Google was probably the wrong choice. I loved my Nest and the frequent updates it would get. Those definitely slowed after Google bought them, and they started losing their focus on glitchy, over-priced smoke alarms and then the whole Dropcam fiasco going on right now. They still haven't ever updated the app to work with widgets in iOS 8, and they never developed an Apple Watch controller or integrated with HomeKit (which may or may not be possible). They never even updated it so that I can have it adjust the temperature slightly based on the humidity level in my house.

We're closing on our house soon, and with it stays the Nest. I've got the ecobee3 in my cart on Amazon, and unless something better comes out after WWDC, it will be one of the first things shipped to my new house along with the Schlage Sense Smart Deadbolt. It is upon these things and my Apple TV 4 which I will begin to construct my HomeKit empire! I might also pick up some Hue White Ambiance bulbs, and maybe some kind of HomeKit weather thing because I'm a weather geek.

Why don't you just get an Alarm.com system (with 2GIG GC3 as the hub/panel)? Alarm.com is so far ahead of the game in Home Automation. Last month they just updated there system to work with Amazon Echo. I love Apple products but HomeKit is a joke.
 
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Wow, arrogant much? And what's with all the interviews? Is he really that big of a deal in Silicon Valley?


Well, he is one of the founding Fathers of the iPod and being in Silicon Valley will certainly draw attention, being his contribution to his homestead. Being who he is and his ingenuity with technology, I think he will be recognized wherever he goes or whoever employee's him. It's more of a stigma than anything.
 
I appreciate some of the things he did at Apple, but the guy kinda has a reputation for conflict. Selling to Google was probably the wrong choice. I loved my Nest and the frequent updates it would get. Those definitely slowed after Google bought them, and they started losing their focus on glitchy, over-priced smoke alarms and then the whole Dropcam fiasco going on right now. They still haven't ever updated the app to work with widgets in iOS 8, and they never developed an Apple Watch controller or integrated with HomeKit (which may or may not be possible). They never even updated it so that I can have it adjust the temperature slightly based on the humidity level in my house.

We're closing on our house soon, and with it stays the Nest. I've got the ecobee3 in my cart on Amazon, and unless something better comes out after WWDC, it will be one of the first things shipped to my new house along with the Schlage Sense Smart Deadbolt. It is upon these things and my Apple TV 4 which I will begin to construct my HomeKit empire! I might also pick up some Hue White Ambiance bulbs, and maybe some kind of HomeKit weather thing because I'm a weather geek.


This. I bought a Nest as soon as they were released, and I loved it at first. But when Google bought them that was the beginning of the end for me.

I sold my house in September, and the Nest stayed there. The old owners rented my new place back from me for several months, but I had the Ecobee waiting in a cabinet, and it was the first thing installed when I took possession of the house. I, too installed the Schlage, along with 8 Lutron Caseta switches throughout the place. Hue lives there, too. And on June 15th (hopefully) I will be ordering a couple of Hunter Signal HomeKit enabled ceiling fans.

But Nest and I are done for good.
 
The "botched upgrades" is what did them in for me. Used to be one of my favorite gadgets that I relied on and showed off to everyone - but after google bought them it seemed to go down hill. Then they bought DropCam and botched that up by merging the apps. Could be a textbook written about how to take 2 great products and F them up so badly.

I had 2 of them in my old house - was glad to leave them when I sold it earlier this year. Will look at ecobee or some other solution next time. Buh bye.
 
It's interesting that Steve Jobs was half Syrian and Fadell is Lebanese. Perhaps there is a role for Basher al-Assad, Ralph Nader or Tony Shalhoub as head of the Apple Car division.
 
Well, he is one of the founding Fathers of the iPod and being in Silicon Valley will certainly draw attention, being his contribution to his homestead. Being who he is and his ingenuity with technology, I think he will be recognized wherever he goes or whoever employee's him. It's more of a stigma than anything.

From what I've read it sounds like the iPod was really Jon Rubinstein's baby and was well underway prior to Tony Fadell coming to Apple. Note that the official product intro video features Phil Schiller, Rubinstein and Jony Ive. In fact I don't think Tony Fadell has ever been in an Apple product video.

He made bank. He does not want to operate under Apple's prescriptive rules. So he moves on and after a polite one year period starts the next thing in IoT.

Because his current IoT products have been so successful? Sorry but I think this guy has an over inflated sense of himself.
 
Best thing for the company really. Fadell seems like he had all of the temper issues and more that Steve had but without any of the genius.

True, people will tolerate all sorts of madness so long as they have faith that person knows what he/she is doing. Many great leaders / geniuses were tyrannical... but they got results, unlike Tony, apparently.

I also like how some of these executives become "advisers" when everyone knows that these people will never be heard from again... I guess it's a psychological thing for stockholders and it helps the executives save face.
 
From what I've read it sounds like the iPod was really Jon Rubinstein's baby and was well underway prior to Tony Fadell coming to Apple. Note that the official product intro video features Phil Schiller, Rubinstein and Jony Ive. In fact I don't think Tony Fadell has ever been in an Apple product video.

Because his current IoT products have been so successful? Sorry but I think this guy has an over inflated sense of himself.

Even if Fadell played a great role in the development of the iPod, the iPod is ancient history. Why should we reminisce about the past achievements of Apple executives when they clearly had nothing to do with the company for a very long time?
 
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Even if Fadell played a great role in the development of the iPod, the iPod is ancient history. Why should we reminisce about the past achievements of Apple executives when they clearly had nothing to do with the company for a very long time?

These interviews he's given seem incredibly defensive. If he was going out on a good note there would be no reason to be defensive.

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And one thing not often mentioned...the sleek looking design of Nest products actually come from a 3rd party company called Bould Design. http://www.bould.com/jsindex.php

Something about this man has never sat right with me.
Like he never earned or deserved the fame he received.

Ha, and at the time Walter Issacson used the Nest acquisition as proof that Google stole the innovation crown from Apple and said it was a bigger deal than iPhone becoming available on China Mobile.

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/01/15/google-steals-innovation-crown-from-apple-isaacson.html
 
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The first Nest Thermostat shipped in 2011 was groundbreaking (the same year iPhone 4S shipped). All subsequent updates are mostly subtle redesign with little functional improvements. Imagine using a 5-year old iPhone 4S today with very slightly redesign (a bit thinner) and almost the same software.
 
Nest is still refusing to fully support iOS: no 3D Touch, no widget (which is crucial!), no Apple Watch support, no HomeKit, ... An app nearly 100MB that is slow, or non-responding and a huge waste of screen estate (you can't sometimes even see the actual temperature). The new Nest Home & Away feature should detect that you're away based on you phone (something they should have introduced 4 years ago) but it does not work. On top of that there have been several huge bugs in the firmware that they are very slow to address. Not happy!
 
what does this have to do with Apple? slow day in apple tech news i guess
Well, Nest is one of the biggest mistakes of Apple. They should have purchased the company to lay the foundations of HomeKit with a premium product. Now, Nest is going down the drain at Google, and Apple has the empty shell that is HomeKit.
 
Just about every Jobs-era SVP has flopped once they left Apple, I don't think that's hyperbole.

If IoT was the "next big thing," Apple would've done it already--HomeKit or not.
 
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