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Netflix on MBP (mid-2017, 15.4", Intel Core i7 Quad-Core 2.8GHz, 16GB) has a glitch every 5 - 10 minutes with a flashing streak on / across the screen.
 
Is this functionality dependent on either the iPhone or the TV being connected to internet, or can an iPhone not connected to anything cast to a TV with built-in functionality but not connected to internet?

Also, with AirPlay, same question. Can the AppleTV and iPhone not be connected to any WIFI and they just detect each other and work?

I ask because some hotels WIFI has portal pages that require entering info, and that doesn't work on the casting devices or is troublesome. Plus, hotel wifi can really SUCK sometimes.
I have no clue about Chromecast, but AirPlay is not dependent on any Internet functionality of either the Apple TV or the iPhone. It uses Bluetooth for discovery, and sets up an ad-hoc Wi-Fi network automatically if needed. This functionality was introduced probably in iOS 9 or iOS 10? Very handy.
 
So.. you're at a friends house / on vacation / in a hotel / etc. and want to watch the content you've paid for. Fortunately the hotel provides an AirPlay compatible TV! Whoops.... too bad. Netflix says "NO".

I can appreciate that they want to provide a fully integrated experience. That's not unreasonable, and may be one of the factors that keeps people paying for content. Intentionally blocking my ability to watch it when/where/how I want is not reasonable. It's just protectionism. If Netflix is having to resort to that... they are foreseeing a future with problems.

Idiotic... since TVs with AirPlay are relatively new your usecase didn’t even existed unless a hotel provides an ATV
 
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Has letting the user decide become so uncommon that companies have forgotten about that option?
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You need airplay to beam Netflix to someone else’s TV. Sometimes I want to watch a show at work or at a friends house. Airplay let me use my subscription without sharing my log ins. Now I’d be forced to share it and the likelihood that I forget to log out and other people use my account has increased.

Netflix app on my iPhone picks up any Smart TV on the network. The TV asks me if I want to give permission. No iTunes passwords or anything.
 
""We want to have people watch our shows on our services," he said. He then followed that up with, "Besides, the remote for the Apple TV blows chunks."
 
For those who keep asking why would anyone want to use airplay for Netflix streaming... If you travel a lot for business(or leisure), using airplay to stream netflix to a device connected to the hotel TV is extremely useful. The hotel's not going to have a Netflix app installed(they want your pay-per-view money), and I don't trust inputting my account details on an AirBnB's Apple TV. It's not really convenient to lug around my own personal Apple TV either. Thank goodness for Chromecast, but how long until they kill that functionality? That leaves FireTV and Fire Sticks, I suppose. At the end of the day customers are the ones losing out.
 
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Ah, shots fired since Apple is getting their way into the Film/TV production and streaming services.
 
Netflix should have just said the reason is because of courage.

I can't believe people that say they care about privacy and security are visiting strangers homes to watch Netflix. If your friend/ employer doesn't want to install the netflix app, maybe they don't want to watch Netflix.

Apple also needs to work on their ecosystem better, specifically having their apple tv connect easier to a iPhone hotspot. So many people in this thread have problems with this issue. With the multiple complaints, it is obvious that connecting to a iPhone hotspot is a pain.

Another thing this thread has brought up are the crappy apple tv remotes. It is so difficult to enter login info. Apple also needs to work on privacy and security better for apple tv and get rid of the keyloggers.
 
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Because there's nothing about that experience that they can improve or work on.

Developers rely on interaction and content data to be able to make decisions on how to optimize an app for its audience. Seeing how users interact with an app on specific platforms can mean the difference between seeing "users on Android TV, view this more than on Apple TV, and on Android TV it takes 3 clicks to get there, we can make that 1 click since it's a priority for Android TV users." Therefore making the experience more pleasant, and making it easier for others that didn't notice it, thus increasing the retention rate. It's not something they'd change in the Apple TV version, because Apple TV users are different and have different methods of navigation.

if I am AirPlaying to an Android TV there would be no indication that I'm using an Android TV remote to navigate through the video stream. It would just be indicated as an iOS device air playing. It muddles the data, because now you're getting Android TV device interactions with iOS identifiers.

I don’t believe this is the case. When I AirPlay to a TV, the stream is handed off to the TV to stream directly from the net. Theoretically, in order to do that with Netflix servers, all the information about that TV is relayed to it, to provide the proper resolution for the device. If I chromecast, presumably it works the exact same way, since I can shut my phone off and the TV keeps playing.

Moreover, AirPlay must certainly perform a handshake with the TV when streaming content to know what to send and in what format. So maybe AirPlay doesn’t share that info with Netflix, and chromecast does. But then I would think plugging in an HDMI cable to an iPhone and TV would also need to be disabled unless iOS already shares that info with Netflix — in which case why not share it via AirPlay?

Then again, with the handoff making the TV streaming content directly from Netflix, there’s really no need for the iPhone to tell Netflix anything.

There’s not a simple answer here.
 
This is the ever shrinking, cost inflating future of subscription that was warned about.
 
Seems like most people don't really use this anymore... Are there are lot of people really upset? If you can do airplay to your Apple TV, why not just use the Netflix app on the Apple TV?
 
I don’t believe this is the case. When I AirPlay to a TV, the stream is handed off to the TV to stream directly from the net. Theoretically, in order to do that with Netflix servers, all the information about that TV is relayed to it, to provide the proper resolution for the device. If I chromecast, presumably it works the exact same way, since I can shut my phone off and the TV keeps playing.

Moreover, AirPlay must certainly perform a handshake with the TV when streaming content to know what to send and in what format. So maybe AirPlay doesn’t share that info with Netflix, and chromecast does. But then I would think plugging in an HDMI cable to an iPhone and TV would also need to be disabled unless iOS already shares that info with Netflix — in which case why not share it via AirPlay?

Then again, with the handoff making the TV streaming content directly from Netflix, there’s really no need for the iPhone to tell Netflix anything.

There’s not a simple answer here.

Makes sense / agreed. Indeed if it's being handed off then Netflix would be able to determine at the very least which system is playing it. However, it's probable it's an AirPlay client handling the stream as another App would (even if Netflix isn't installed), and therefore AirPlay isn't sending client details. Still, it's possible Netflix is just making up excuses. *shrugs*

Unless Apple comes out and says "we're sending AirPlay client and interaction data to app developers." I guess we'll never know which is true. But ultimately it doesn't affect most users. I think it's like 70% or greater who watch Netflix directly on TVs (or using an Apple TV).
 
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For those who keep asking why would anyone want to use airplay for Netflix streaming... If you travel a lot for business(or leisure), using airplay to stream netflix to a device connected to the hotel TV is extremely useful. The hotel's not going to have a Netflix app installed(they want your pay-per-view money), and I don't trust inputting my account details on an AirBnB's Apple TV. It's not really convenient to lug around my own personal Apple TV either. Thank goodness for Chromecast, but how long until they kill that functionality? That leaves FireTV and Fire Sticks, I suppose. At the end of the day customers are the ones losing out.
That right there "If you travel a lot for business(or leisure)" is a small thing that Netfix is OK to get rid off; sorrey if it's important to you but Netflix doesn't care.
 
Seems like most people don't really use this anymore... Are there are lot of people really upset? If you can do airplay to your Apple TV, why not just use the Netflix app on the Apple TV?
Tv has no app
Tv has no internet connection
Tv is not mine and I don’t want to enter my Netflix info
Tv is in a different country than I live, and can’t stream that content, so I downloaded it in my Netflix app on my iPad

Read the thread before posting how nobody should have problems just because you don’t.
 
I hope many Netflix subscribers will do the right thing and cancel their subscriptions. I don't believe for one second what Netflix have said.
 
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Ok I'm going to bite since I've been sitting at a hospital all day with my father and am in a mood...
Don't try to demine me with the I'm an adult and work and don't have time to watch line.
Your actually an adult when you are busy and work, go out and travel when you can. Especially when you are married, have a wife and two kids, like me, and still be able to actually manage our time to sit down and relax and watch what we want. Second, what does your friends have anything to do with what you watch. If it's not tagged on your friends facebook, you don't watch it?

Why just why sigh. Not trying to step on anyone’s toes, I was responding to someone in my reply “When all your friends are talking about Stranger Things, Black Mirror and Russian Doll, those without Netflix will feel left out.” I see that you threw in a few extra things like having a family of your own and assume that I do not because I did not put it out there. Do not assume without knowing all the facts...
 
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