Netflix CEO Confirms Netflix Won't Be Part of Apple's Upcoming Video Service

[Klyster]

Let’s see...

Game Of Thrones - HBO
The Handmaid's Tale - HULU
BoJack Horseman - Netflix
The Man In The High Castle - Amazon Prime
Twin Peaks (the revival) - Showtime
American Gods - Starz
Star Trek: Discovery - CBS (But I think it’s also available on Netflix?)
Anime - Crunchyroll
Titans - DC streaming service
Sling TV somewhere

And coming soon - Apple (maybe free with Apple Music?) and Disney’s streaming services respectively

At which point do the consumers just say “screw it” and go back to torrenting?

Hmm, American Gods and The man in the high castle are on Amazon prime too.
HBO can be purchased through Amazon as an addon.
Titans is on Netflix as of January
Yep, Star Trek Discovery is on Netflix

 

[MoreRumors?]

I am not surprised and can see why they wouldn't.

Just use Apple streaming, Netflix streaming, Amazon streaming, Hulu streaming, CBS streaming, HBO streaming, Disney streaming, etc.

How many different streaming services will the average family subscribe to ?

It all adds up and becomes costly expense.

You know, it feels like maybe we need to start watching a little less and living a little more.

It gives couch potato a new meaning > couch binging.

 

[Remy149]

That’s how business works.

They are one of the few subscription based services that inflation their iOS price. They should just go the Netflix and amazon prime route with login only apps. Not to mention a way larger percentage of Spotify costumers fo t even use the paid service but the free add supported version. Apple gets 0 money from Spotify ads
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Hmm, American Gods and The man in the high castle are on Amazon prime too.
HBO can be purchased through Amazon as an addon.
Titans is on Netflix as of January
Yep, Star Trek Discovery is on Netflix

Titans will never be ok Netflix in the United States neither will any of the dc steaming original content. Same with cbs content like Star Trek discovery

 

[Klyster]

They are one of the few subscription based services that inflation their iOS price. They should just go the Netflix and amazon prime route with login only apps. Not to mention a way larger percentage of Spotify costumers fo t even use the paid service but the free add supported version. Apple gets 0 money from Spotify ads
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Titans will never be ok Netflix in the United States neither will any of the dc steaming original content. Same with cbs content like Star Trek discovery

Oh well, it is here in NZ.

 

[alexandr]

Yeah just stick with your subscription to Pornh*b. You’ll be all set with that.

wow, a fan! thanks for watching!!!

 

[4jasontv]

I'm not sure it's a bubble (which implies popping) but I do see a lot of consolidation happening. I especially see Disney and Apple allying...So that's Apple's service and ecosystem, Disney + and Hulu, which as of Thursday Disney will own 60% of, and they're looking to get more of it..
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That's not how copyRIGHT (as in, the right to copy) works.
Anything in the public domain that Disney has used, you can use to. You can't use Disney's stuff, because it's Disney's. Disney can't use your stuff, because it's yours...unless they pay you or you release it into the public domain.

Anyone can make their version of the Snow Queen. They can't copy Disney's interpretation, as found in Frozen. And Disney will certainly be watching your version to see if you do violate their interpretation (copyright) or their branding (trademark).

As for Mickey, Mickey isn't in the Public Domain, and yes, Disney spends a hell of a lot of money to change copyright laws to keep it from happening..but ultimately, so what? What are you hoping happens if Steamboat Willy becomes pd?

Thanks for correcting my typo. That added a lot. Copyright is supposed to be 14 years plus an optional extension of 14 years. Say whatever you want but the extensions that have been added are wrong and should be reversed. Point is, companies like Netflix shouldn’t be paying royalties to stream movies that are over 28 years old.

 

[gnipgnop]

I disagree. The hook is the lore of Tolkien stories. If done right there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't be extremely successful.

That would be a hook for Tolkien enthusiasts, which isn't the same as a mass audience. There's a reason the cinematic versions have focused on the heroic quest, evil wizards, orcs and monsters, fairy tale elements, and fight scenes. The extensive details of the history of Middle Earth in Lord of the Rings is not mass audience material, just like the extensive details of the history of the whaling industry don't make it into cinematic versions of Moby Dick.

 

[cocky jeremy]

As in "have more customers than Apple"?

More customers.. while making no money. If you have 500 customers and you make a total of $500 in profit and I have 25 customers and make $1000 in profit, who is really winning?

 

[ROGmaster]

That would be a hook for Tolkien enthusiasts, which isn't the same as a mass audience. There's a reason the cinematic versions have focused on the heroic quest, evil wizards, orcs and monsters, fairy tale elements, and fight scenes. The extensive details of the history of Middle Earth in Lord of the Rings is not mass audience material, just like the extensive details of the history of the whaling industry don't make it into cinematic versions of Moby Dick.

Nonsense.
And why do you keep trying to suggest I claimed things I didn't like the extensive details of the history of etc. I never suggested they would concentrate on that.

 

[ipponrg]

That would be a hook for Tolkien enthusiasts, which isn't the same as a mass audience. There's a reason the cinematic versions have focused on the heroic quest, evil wizards, orcs and monsters, fairy tale elements, and fight scenes. The extensive details of the history of Middle Earth in Lord of the Rings is not mass audience material, just like the extensive details of the history of the whaling industry don't make it into cinematic versions of Moby Dick.

I disagree. People love magic, dragons, and European fantasy themes.

 

[cmaier]

Thanks for correcting my typo. That added a lot. Copyright is supposed to be 14 years plus an optional extension of 14 years. Say whatever you want but the extensions that have been added are wrong and should be reversed. Point is, companies like Netflix shouldn’t be paying royalties to stream movies that are over 28 years old.

Why is it “supposed” to be 28 years? Because that was U.S. law in 1790? Is slavery “supposed to be” legal?

 

[gnipgnop]

Microsoft, Google and Amazon are all US-based companies, but they all have major parts of their structures in other places. Apple doesn't. Except for customer service and a bunch of data centers, they run their international operations pretty much on skeleton crews that are completely subordinate to their US puppet masters.

"A bunch of data centers" is pretty much what Microsoft, Google, and Amazon do as well when it comes to tech in Europe. Sure, Amazon also has the warehouses for physical goods, but that has nothing to do with competing with Apple.

 

[verniesgarden]

Apple has no incentive to buy or partner with Netflix.

Netflix is waiting to see how many people ditch their service for Disney’s offering.

I imagine Netflix will see a loss of customers, their value will drop, and then they’ll be ripe for buying at a discount.

It will honestly help them. They are crushing it in original content. That’ll open up more after Disney pulls content.

 

[gnipgnop]

And why do you keep trying to suggest I claimed things I didn't like the extensive details of the history of etc. I never suggested they would concentrate on that.

You did say "lore" didn't you? That's what the lore in Lord of the Rings consists of: the extensive history of Middle Earth. That's what Peter Jackson skipped over in the movie trilogy...and pretty much what any previous cinematic version skipped over as well. It's not mass audience material. It's material for Tolkien enthusiasts.

 

[ROGmaster]

You did say "lore" didn't you? That's what the lore in Lord of the Rings consists of: the extensive history of Middle Earth. That's what Peter Jackson skipped over in the movie trilogy...and pretty much what any previous cinematic version skipped over as well. It's not mass audience material. It's material for Tolkien enthusiasts.

I meant the vibe of Tolkiens work. They are obviously not investing so much money just to show us people in nice costumes and thta's it.

 

[gnipgnop]

I disagree. People love magic, dragons, and European fantasy themes.

Those elements were already present in the Lord of the Rings films, so what's the hook to get a mass audience to invest a lot of time in rewatching the same storyline?

 

[PlayUltimate]

Thanks for correcting my typo. That added a lot. Copyright is supposed to be 14 years plus an optional extension of 14 years. Say whatever you want but the extensions that have been added are wrong and should be reversed. Point is, companies like Netflix shouldn’t be paying royalties to stream movies that are over 28 years old.

Copyright rules were changed in 1998. Copyright is, with exceptions, 75 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

 

[gnipgnop]

Copyright rules were changed in 1998. Copyright is, with exceptions, 75 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

1976 is when they implemented the 75 years or life of the author + 50 years extension. 1998 was the DMCA.

 

[ipponrg]

Those elements were already present in the Lord of the Rings films, so what's the hook to get a mass audience to invest a lot of time in rewatching the same storyline?

Maybe you’re the wrong target audience to understand the hook since you feel only people that know Tolkien will watch this. There are a lot of people across different cultures who are fascinated with European fantasy themes (knights, dragons, wizards, magic, Orcs, etc) who have not read a Tolkien book but are part of the non elitist audience that could watch this.

 

[Fixey]

Don’t understand why make a big deal of it, if cause Netflix will not team up, Apple goal is to become #1 streaming provider of TV and films, A competitor to Netflix so if Netflix was to allow it’s content on Apple it would be like allowing Samsung to install iOS on it’s phones and so people stop buying iPhone and iPad it would harm their business so Netflix is not going to team up that would not be in their best interest

 

[nickhutson]

What's interesting about this is that Netflix are part of Sky here in the UK - and you add it to your subscription and it lowers your Sky bill sometimes. SO they CAN play with other broadcasters to be on the boxes... it's just they're picking and choosing.

Not that any Americans know what I am talking about - but hello to the UK people!

 

[timber]

It's interesting that you think Apple is becoming a U.S. only company while 4 out of the 5 companies you list as "taking over" are also U.S. companies. What "market share" would Microsoft or Google or Amazon be taking? Hardware?

In Europe we don't have any problem with American companies, American services and whatever American (well, some nutjobs do but there are plenty of those everywhere).

What we do have a problem with is 2nd rate offerings combined with price gouging.

 

[Kabeyun]

i've honestly never found apples service platforms compelling enough to stay subscribed to. nor many other platforms for that matter

in this world of microtransactional drm post pirate-bay media, i've actually begun to find i'm being lured back to physical media and products, for the simple reason of wanting to own the media for playback however I want. even on netflix, it often doesn't have what i want.

kinda late to the party but i think my next move is to actually buy a 4k bluray player, and slowly begin a collection of all faves across 4k and Bluray disc

i'm just tired of needing this or that box, all these monthly payments stacking up, not actually owning the media and being locked down to a particular ecosystem, and losing the content once you unsubscribe

There’s always piracy.

Kidding.

But it’s true.

 

[Baymowe335]

Really? so that means it will fail. Got it.

No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means that for Apple, it's a VERY tiny portion of their business, unlike Netflix where it's their entire business.

Again, I'm very afraid if I'm Netflix. Disney and Apple stepping on to my turf, both with more Money and Disney as the king of content...which is what this game is about.

 

[bigboyz12000]

Who in their right mind thought they would?

Indeed! Competitors compete! We live in a world/time of monopoly and we don't even realize it haha! Its common place. Glad to see competition still thriving for some sectors of business.