I have a 75" 4K in the living room, and 1080p is noticeably worse. And a 145" screen downstairs, and hard to watch anything that's not 4K (sitting distance is about 6')
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Netflix Co-CEO Confirms Plans for Cheaper Ad-Supported Netflix Tier
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1080p does look like dookie compared to 4K on my 75" TV.
Dropped Netflix like it was hot! I would get interested in a show then it would take so long to get the next season I just wouldn't care any more. Between that and a myriad of bad decisions on how they spend my hard earned money just pushed me over the edge! Not to mention but with commercials comes tracking issues, NO THANKS!
If I want to watch ads I'd go to YouTube at least the content is somewhat fresh, although there is so much junk too.
Is this preemptive as they have not done this in the US yet or just a form of bravado showing you are "taking action" to hurt Netflix.
You are spot on. At my wife's business people bitch about the monthly cost, but manage to come up with enough for 3 people to get Starbucks every week when they drop their child off. It is pathetic.
Your take is one view.
Consider the following do not charge for 4k content.
Apple
Disney
Amazon
Hulu
Consider Netflix charges 4 times Apple price, 3 times Disney price, I think at least double Amazon etc.
Sorry, but that's idiotic. You may not like their licensing or pricing options but it is not stealing.
Amazon tried this already...it did not pan out. They made the pilots available and people watched and voted. They soon quit.
Netflix - the king of the bait and switch pricing structures that never gets held accountable for such practices. I hope they go under and their principle investors that are the main driver for these schemes, take losses. There is no such thing as enforced consumer protection in the U.S. anymore… so the consumers need to take it into their own hands and make it a mass exodus, such as they have… those who left aren’t coming back, and the Netflix brand is so tarnished due to its forever changing pricing, there won’t be very many new subscribers… Good riddance.
This is what really annoys me. I live alone and have no use for watching multiple screens simultaneously but I definitely do want 4K.
Exactly ... unless the 1st Quarter of 2022 is the 1st Quarter ever that people are sharing acconts ... definetly that is not the real reason behind the problem
This would fit my use case as well for SS. A year of Hulu w/ads via their Thanksgiving special for $2 a month... I was psyched at first, but as time went on, I was using it less and less. Hulu's ads are roughly 10 minutes per hour of content, and it really does destroy your ability to watch stuff on a regular basis, let alone binge stuff. Plus, you had to rewatch ads that you already saw, within the same session!
Towards the end, I actually dreaded using it! I did find one show that had 1-hour episodes, but only had one ad at the beginning, so that was pretty neat! When it came time to decide to do that promo again (at only $1 per month), it was a hard "na-ope!" from me. Hulu IS very nice, but when I resub to it, it'll be ad-free or bust.If I were to play devil's advocate, there are definitely use cases where with-ads is desired...
1) people just need to save $$
Such as college students, or those raising families. I rotate SS so I don't pay that much per month, but I know some families where it's too hard to coordinate this (e.g. this is going to be Netflix season, then we'll switch to Disney+ for the next 3 months after that, etc.), so having multiple SS makes more sense for them. Having the cheaper, w/ads plan, the savings add up.
2) They don't use it that much
Some people are very casual with SS. They'll watch only a few hours per month, to a few hours per week. They won't get as much value from the ad/free plans. With such infrequent viewing, it's easier to put up with less ads. Hulu for $1 or $2 per month is an excellent value for them.
3) Use commercial breaks to do other things
Some get up and do some aerobics, move around. Do some chores around the house, get some water, take a piss break. Me, I much prefer to just "make my own commercial breaks" by pausing, but to each their own.
Not even the same thing IMO. To me, 480p, 1080p are watchable b/c I don't even have a 4K display anyways, but in a pitch, it'd do. I won't doubt that higher resolutions are always nicer.
With the hotel analogy, it's more like extras like having a larger room, a better view, bigger, bed, and/or more comfy bed.
They ain't the only ones to do this, and won't be the last.It doesn't really cost Netflix more money to serve 480p, 1080p, or 4K content since they have their Open Connect Appliances (OCAs) set up.
The different pricing tiers is just to get people to pay up for higher resolution content.
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Why Do Streaming Services Charge Extra for HD and 4K?
It's 2019. Why do so many streaming services charge extra for 1080p HD and 4K? Who's watching SD video?www.howtogeek.com
Premium streaming sites can’t use storage and web hosting as an excuse for selling SD and HD video at different prices. Maybe it just costs more for websites to deliver HD video to customers, so they offer SD video at a reduced price. That makes sense, right?
Of course not. Streaming services operate over Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) and Open Connect Appliances (OCAs), which significantly reduces the cost and difficulty of HD content delivery. These terms sound very abstract and dense, but they’re really quite simple.
Internet traffic is like regular traffic. If everybody tries to take one road, then they’re going to create a traffic jam and move very slowly. The same thing happens on websites. To combat this problem, streaming services build CDNs. A CDN is a dense, global network of servers that all contain the same content. They’re like different roads to the same destination. This way, Netflix doesn’t come to a standstill every time a new season of Stranger Things comes out.
OCAs are similar to CDNs, but they’re built to prevent traffic jams on the entire internet, rather than just a single website. Like OCAs, CDNs contain an extensive library of videos, and they’re spread around the globe. The big difference is that CDNs are operated by your internet service provider. When your entire neighborhood goes to watch the new season of Stranger Things, your ISP will redirect that internet traffic to a CDN, which keeps non-Stranger Things fans from experiencing any internet traffic jams.
Obviously, these CDNs and OCAs cost a lot of money to maintain. But they’re what you might call “internet infrastructure.” The investment’s already been made, so the cost of delivering HD content instead of SD content is negligible at best. Yet some premium streaming services still want to charge you different rates for SD and HD video, and they’re still behind the ball on 4K.
In olden days, railroad companies could easily put a roof in the 3rd class seating, but they didn't to entice more people to pony up
When iphones also had a '+' model, some of the features would only be there, but not the "non +" versions (that weren't tied to the '+' hardware specifically). For ipads, you only get GPS if you pay for the cellular models.
Subscription rates have nothing to do with setting revenue records. Netflix was letting go another 300 staff in todays news.
How to interpret the new round of Netflix layoffs
Like a well placed karate chop from Stranger Things Season 4 fan favorite Murray Bauman (played by actor Brett Gelman), Netflix is cutting a slew of jobs. The company is shedding an additional 300 staffers following the 150 workers it cut in May. This latest round of layoffs, first reported by...
Ad supported subscriptions actually make a lot more money for Netflix. So thats why they are doing it, to grow revenue. So all the people that go that route Netflix says thank you very much.
An ad-sponsored FREE tire, would be ok.
If they add a cost to that, they are nuts.
If they add a cost to that, they are nuts.
Perhaps the conversation then ought to be “what is Netflix not doing right that people evidently feel they are getting less value from it each month compared to 4-5 cups of coffee?”
I have thought about it (this argument is nothing new), and I believe the answer comes down to “jobs to be done”.
When I buy a cup of coffee (hypothetically, I can’t take caffeine), I know what I am getting every single time. It perks me up, and is often an accompaniment to a boring meeting.
Conversely, Netflix is not succeeding at its job of entertaining me, when I am spending more time searching for what to watch, than actually watching content. It’s a slog, and I find myself defaulting to YouTube and TV+ these days. Even Disney+ original content isn’t resonating with me these days.
It’s a far cry compared to a few years ago when people were so certain that Apple would stand no chance in the face of media giants like Netflix and Disney. Perhaps the lesson here is that success often isn’t about who is first, about who is left standing at the end of the day.
