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Cancelled and not going back. The fact they charge extra for 4K content is a joke.
Genuine question to the community, but how many of you actually use 4K? I never got into it since I just watch stuff on my 1440p computer monitor. I know some folks with "big ass TVs" (so, 50 to 65") mounted on walls, and there were a few that were only 1080p.

Another issue is.. isn't much of the the stuff on Netflix not 4K (granted, the amount of 4K content isn't trivial)?
 
everyone keeps saying lackluster content…they just had the biggest streaming show in the world with Squid Game. They are very hit and miss but so is HBO. Half their shows I don’t make it past the first episode. Cancelled Disney because their streaming content was so weak. Let free Apple lapse because already saw Ted Lasso. Most shows on broadcast TV don’t make it past the first season. Thats the business.
I think a lot of people are turned off by so much non-english content on Netflix. But thats the world we live in, you just need to realize there is a now tremendous amount of excellent content that isn't English based. English dubbed content isn't exactly preferable a lot of the time when taking in the actors mannerisms and expressions. Awhile back Netflix invested in Korean TV series content as an example, and given the interesting content I seen streamed they have succeeded in capitalizing on the popularity of Korean Kpop music with their culture. Their content is gathered from many countries and some of it so well done its hard not to get addicted if you start watching some of it compared to USA/Canadian produced shows. I watched the steady dumbing down content for the USA and seriously so much content is lackluster to borrow your description tag. Just a FYU Disney was always a given it takes time to generate new content and they are doing fairly well this year with new shows. So check back on that as something interesting shows up.
 
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Genuine question to the community, but how many of you actually use 4K? I never got into it since I just watch stuff on my 1440p computer monitor. I know some folks with "big ass TVs" (so, 50 to 65") mounted on walls, and there were a few that were only 1080p.

Another issue is.. isn't much of the the stuff on Netflix not 4K (granted, the amount of 4K content isn't trivial)?
I have 4K TVs, but I won't pay for 4K add-on. I'd just rather see it in HD. In the end, at the distance I am seeing shows, 4K v HD is just negligible.
 
That's not data. That's an anecdote. And it's not that Netflix is too expensive, but that their value proposition sucks. And clearly more and more subscribers are coming to that same conclusion based on Netflix recently losing subscribers for the first time.
i call it simply "reality".

maybe netflix are losing subscribers because more people are sharing accounts or maybe for someone that watches tv occasionally, amazon prime its enough, and its "free" (many people already have it for free shippings). "switching" providers from time to time can be another idea for maximize stuff to watch. once i exhaust shows in a provider, i switch back to the previous once it "refills" with new content. who knows
 
Cancelled and not going back. The fact they charge extra for 4K content is a joke.
This makes no sense. None at all. None.
They have a business model and if they are charged more for 4K why would they not pass the cost on?

What you're saying is, "the fact that they charge more money for more product grinds my gears"

YOU are the one it's too expensive for.
 
$5/month, with ads, 360p, only a half stream at a time (your choice - right half or left half of each frame) /s
Heh... I remember playing an underwater sub simulator when I was using Windows 3.1.1. I had a lower end Pentium and other specs, and between the 3: scanline, low fps, small picture... I had to put up with one of them. For scanline, it fills my entire monitor, but every other horizontal line was missing to save on resources. For small picture, it was all there, but only half the diameter of the screen.
 
That's just it. They're not customers. They should have implemented a "Family" plan with 5 accounts or something like YouTubeTV does. It costs more but allows you to share with others. If you just want a single stream then pay less.

I honestly don't understand the entitlement of people who think it's somehow their right to steal stuff. This is basic licensing agreement stuff. "Sharing" your password ... let's call it what it is. It's theft. If you don't like the service or content then cancel.
talk for you :) also beware to dont turn music volume too high while in the car, as u dont have license to transmit it in public ;-)
 
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Plenty of customers of streaming services offering ad-supported models seem to feel ad-supported versions are worth the discount. Obviously, it's not "right" for everybody but that's true for all products and services.

It's nice when the option is there and if someone decides ad-supported is no longer for them, it can be easy to switch to ad-free. The choice is theirs, including cancelling the service completely, and choice is a good thing.
Again, I'm just saying ad-supported services value your time at paltry rates. I have no problem if others want to sell their free time for $1/hr.

If someone doesn’t think it is worth the price then they shouldn’t pay it. But to gripe about a service that costs 67 cents a day that you can use 24 hours a day if you wanted to seems petty.
It's a forum. Folks are here to discuss whatever the topic happens to be, including gripes.
 
Netflix put billions into making mostly poor content and then fit their users with the bill.

Reminds me of a well loved hardware store in my city, which has been here many decades. We had some big-box hardware stores that came into my city in the last twenty years and our old beloved hardware store must have felt they needed to become like them. To be clear: there was no such need. They went and invested millions in "upgrading" their store, closing it for many months. When it opened back up some prices were double what they were previously—they lost their soul—forgot who they were.

Netflix forgot what people valued about them. If they were going to grow they needed to do so organically and over time. Not by all of a sudden spending $6B per year and price gouging their costumers to death. Netflix should be one single plan of $9.99 per month and it should just work. That's why people used Netflix. Forget all the rest.
 
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My daughter attending university on the other side of the country used our family account.
We have since cancelled Netflix because of "sharing".
Doesn't your plan allow for multiple screens anyways? If so, I'm guessing they have to be in the same household or something? (Been confused about this whole mess, what constitutes as "number of screens", and how "sharing" is defined).

Netflix is so overrated. its TRASH.
I'll be getting into Netflix sometime soon. Kinda excited since that and HBO Max are the only ones I've never had for myself. And yeah, I'm one of those "weirdos" who's just getting into Netflix now (or at least, with my own account for once). I suspect others were all too happy to can Netflix since they've had it for over a decade, if not since they started off with mailing DVDs.
 
Doesn't your plan allow for multiple screens anyways? If so, I'm guessing they have to be in the same household or something? (Been confused about this whole mess, what constitutes as "number of screens", and how "sharing" is defined).
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Netflix is coming after such arrangements. That was one of their premises in the latest investor call.
 
Pfft. The day I pay anyone to show me ads.
I don't mind paying for ads. These SS (streaming services) surely have done some accounting and realized they can't be only offer polar opposites in their choices. They need to weigh how many subs they'll get, payment collected from those, additional $$ from ad revenue, vs. how much the ad-free folks will bring in. Charging a sub fee and having ads in itself isn't offensive to me. What does bother me is if the ads are obnoxious. For example, Hulu w/ads is so awful that I wouldn't use it even if they, paid me, to watch it. That's my beef. AFAIK, there aren't any SS that can make the ads mild enough. Free YouTube isn't that bad, but I get to a certain point where the ads do bug me, and I have to take a break from it. There may have been some SS that have mild ads, but I can't recall what they were (and they probably have a dearth of content that it's not worth bothering with for most of us).
 


Netflix is planning to implement a more affordable ad-supported tier to draw in customers who do not want to pay the $9.99 starting price for an ad-free plan, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos confirmed at the Cannes Lions advertising festival today (via The Hollywood Reporter).

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The plan is aimed at people who think that Netflix is too expensive and who don't mind ads, with no changes planned for the existing Netflix tiers. "We've left a big customer segment off the table, which is people who say: 'Hey, Netflix is too expensive for me and I don't mind advertising,'" Sarandos said. "We are adding an ad tier; we're not adding ads to Netflix as you know it today. We're adding an ad tier for folks who say, 'Hey, I want a lower price and I'll watch ads.'"

Netflix is already in talks with ad-sales partners, and while Sarandos did not provide details on when the ad-supported tier might come out, Netflix has told employees internally that it is aiming for a launch before the end of 2022.

The Basic Netflix plan is priced at $9.99 and it offers 480p streaming, while the Standard plan is priced at $15.49 for 1080p resolution. Netflix's most expensive Premium plan, priced at $19.99 per month, is the sole tier that offers 4K HDR streaming. Netflix is the only streaming service that charges extra for improved streaming quality, and the ad-supported tier would presumably offer streaming quality similar to the Basic plan.

In addition to offering an ad-supported tier, Netflix is planning on cracking down on account sharing. In select countries, Netflix has been testing an extra payment for those who share their Netflix accounts with people outside of their households.

In the first quarter of 2022, Netflix said that it lost subscribers for the first time in 10 years. Revenue growth "slowed considerably," which the company blamed on "a large number of households sharing accounts" and "competition." Netflix estimates that 222 million paying households are sharing with an additional 100 million households that are not being monetized. Netflix has confirmed that it plans to implement "more effective monetization of multi-household sharing" in the future.

Sarandos said that he believes Netflix could return to growth with the changes that are planned. "We have plenty of scale and profitability and free cash flow to continue to grow this business," he said, suggesting that there's "still a lot of room to grow."

Article Link: Netflix Co-CEO Confirms Plans for Cheaper Ad-Supported Netflix Tier
That’s fine. I’m English, so ad breaks give me plenty of time to get the kettle on and make a cuppa 😂
 
Man, people sure are getting cheap with internet-based services these days, yet they'll happily pay $5.00 for a fancy coffee.
This so true. I was actually in line at a coffee shop when news of the last price hike as announced. I believe it was $2.00 The gal in front of me was complaining about it to her friend and then ordered a coffee that was $8 something. One coffee was 4 months of the price increase. Crazy!
 
Streaming in my view, on off experience. Example how many streaming services can one get every year for $20 a month? 24 is the answer. That was the design from the beginning. Watch what you want and only pay for those, old school terms, channels. If the channels stopped delivering, move on. Come back when they do deliver or never if they do not. I get it, not everyone has the home environment to manage true streaming. The option, pay and enjoy. If home environment allows, streaming extremely inexpensive and awesome value.
 
They're trying to get rid of password sharing.
I don't think they want to do that. If half the users had to make a decision of getting their own account, with the poor content available now, most might just choose another streaming service. I think they realize that password sharing is actually helping them now.
 
I don't think they want to do that. If half the users had to make a decision of getting their own account, with the poor content available now, most might just choose another streaming service. I think they realize that password sharing is actually helping them now.
They think they want to, but they don't. They're already lost the majority of their customers. This will just piss their remaining customers off. But they keep making the absolute stupidest choices right now, so I think it's still up in the air whether they do this or not.


maybe netflix are losing subscribers because more people are sharing accounts or maybe for someone that watches tv occasionally, amazon prime its enough, and its "free" (many people already have it for free shippings). "switching" providers from time to time can be another idea for maximize stuff to watch. once i exhaust shows in a provider, i switch back to the previous once it "refills" with new content. who knows
They're losing their subscribers because they're pushing an agenda for 5% of their customer base to spite the other 95%. They're making movies that endanger children like Cuties. They're raising their prices 18 times a year so they can afford to keep green lighting content nobody asked for while canceling shows people actually like. They're making just about every stupid decision they possibly can to run their business into the ground. People are speaking with their wallets and it's not a mystery as to why.
 
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