Yes, the US is the only place in the universe which, of course, revolves around the US.Uhhhh 180,000 units is absolutely a niche market considering there are 300 million people in the US.
Yes, the US is the only place in the universe which, of course, revolves around the US.Uhhhh 180,000 units is absolutely a niche market considering there are 300 million people in the US.
Not exactly. Less functional in some ways and more so in others. It’s not like the AVP can do everything a TV can and then some. Playing games with friends and family for instance.Sure, you can buy less functional products for a lower price. Not sure what point you think that makes when my original comment was about AVP providing more function for price. AVP can EASILY go above any screen size on the market for 4K OLED. And then you also get the spatial audio functionality and the M2 spatial computer functionality beyond that.
And, yes, a traditional flat panel has more flexibility when it comes to the number of viewers. But it's not mobile. It has a relatively tiny screen experience. It doesn't provide spatial audio. It can't upscale to 8K. And on and on. Number of viewers isn't really relevant to pricing anyway. Sony is going to charge you the same price for that 77" 4K OLED regardless of whether it's being watched at parties or by your cat.
And yet there are people with friends and family who like to watch by themselves and talk about it with friends or family afterwards.
You’re missing the point. If I have a Vision Pro and love watching Netflix, Disney, Hulu or whatever it is. There is a high chance I would like to watch it on the headset as well. Doesn’t matter if it’s alone or not. If it’s there people will use it period.
Good decision, the Vision Pro will be the new Newton. Maybe in ten years tech will reach the point where the device will look like conventual glasses .
Please explain why Paramount and others decided not only to enable their program on AVP, but also to configure it specifically for AVP.Good decision, the Vision Pro will be the new Newton. Maybe in ten years tech will reach the point where the device will look like conventual glasses .
Not exactly. Less functional in some ways and more so in others. It’s not like the AVP can do everything a TV can and then some. Playing games with friends and family for instance.
The AVP isn’t really a mobile device either, at least not truly, in the way a smartphone is a mobile device. It’s really not even as mobile as a laptop. A laptop you could use in a cafe or on a bus/train/plane. AVP not so much. The ability to have the screen appear large isn’t really the great selling point for dropping $3500 on it that you seem to think it is.
The device is prohibitively expensive to most people and it’s use cases are fairly different from what someone would use a TV for. The reality is that the AVP isn’t going to replace a device for anyone. It won’t replace their smartphone, it won’t replace their TV, it won’t replace their laptop. Best case scenario for device replacement would be replacing an iPad, but even that’s a stretch. With that in mind, someone has to be able to justify the $3500 price for essentially a very niche toy and I just don’t see many people being able to do that and that’s if they can even afford it in the first place.
Right. The CEO of a competing company isn't likely going to praise the new competition or publicly admit they may be worried, even if they are.
Ballmer turned out to be correct to knock the iPhone's high $500 starting launch price. Within less than three months, prices were reduced $200 and then reduced again even more the next year with the new 3G model.
While it may not happen in less than three months like it did with the iPhone, I would fully expect to see a VP price reduction this year.
Because they probably have strategic partnerships with Apple. Agreements that were forged long before the Vision was announced. Netflix and Apple rather famously have no such relationship. Netflix’s relationship with Apple is openly hostile.Please explain why Paramount and others decided not only to enable their program on AVP, but also to configure it specifically for AVP.
The price of the original iPhone was dropped.Ballmer was not correct, let's not rewrite history here! I just paid $1200 for my iPhone 15 Pro Max, that is a significant increase from the original iPhone not a decrease! Microsoft does not even have a smart phone anymore so clearly they did not know what they were talking about whatsoever!
So in the very least, that throws the theory of a mass developer boycott out the window. It has always been a small but extremely vocal of developers who are unhappy with Apple, but they don't get to speak for the larger community.Because they probably have strategic partnerships with Apple. Agreements that were forged long before the Vision was announced. Netflix and Apple rather famously have no such relationship. Netflix’s relationship with Apple is openly hostile.
Vision Pro is only in US markets right now because Apple cannot make enough for the entire world. You mentioned Netflix via browser but will it deliver 4k? I don’t think so.Disney is providing an app to grow their marketplace and to market their 150 movie 3D collection that is not possible on Netflix in a similar fashion. So they have an incentive. Netflix is still watchable with a browser and so the only thing that is being discussed is why not an app yet? There is also fact that Disney doesn't market Asian market content very much via Disney +. They do present content with many audio languages however. Comparably Netflix has a large chunk of content in the hundreds that is catering to Asia market place in multiple languages and remember that the Vision Pro is USA only. So this not providing an app is very different for Disney vs Netflix.
Think of how many families are huddled over their phones in the living room and scrolling on their social media feed, even as content is played over the TV in the background? What's the difference between doing that on an iPhone or iPad, vs a vision pro?I’m not missing the point. The use case you describe is not the mainstream and this device won’t make it mainstream. Movies and television are generally consumed as shared experiences.
So in the very least, that throws the theory of a mass developer boycott out the window. It has always been a small but extremely vocal of developers who are unhappy with Apple, but they don't get to speak for the larger community.
Think of how many families are huddled over their phones in the living room and scrolling on their social media feed, even as content is played over the TV in the background? What's the difference between doing that on an iPhone or iPad, vs a vision pro?
Paramount plus is barely functional. It is one of the ********* apps I’ve ever seen. Content is fine though.I think it's time to drop Netflix. Their prices for 4K are out of control. Just subscribed to Paramount Plus. Lot's of 4K content and a native AVP app. Netflix can go ****w themselves.
Vision Pro is only in US markets right now because Apple cannot make enough for the entire world. You mentioned Netflix via browser but will it deliver 4k? I don’t think so.
Either way I plan on using the Vision Pro exclusively to watch content, and since Netflix is lagging behind in keeping up to date they have been cancelled.
Of course the fanboys won't like it but the streets are saying Netflix won the streaming wars. Apple should do what Disney did licence some of their content to Netflix, get it infront of some eyeballs.
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The Year Netflix Ended the Streaming Wars
After a shaky 2022 in which it seemed like the competition was finally getting to Netflix, the company proved time and time again in 2023 that it has a hold on viewers like no otherwww.theringer.com
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Disney Won’t “Chase Bucks” But Will License Some Content to Netflix, Bob Iger Says
Disney will hold onto its marquee brands and Iger moves further away from his earlier anti-licensing position.www.hollywoodreporter.com
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Netflix Won the Year and the Streaming Wars. What Comes Next?
VIP+ Analysis: 2023 affirmed Netflix’s victory over its SVOD rivals, but the streamer now faces the challenge of charting future growth.variety.com
With lots and lots of people watching on their own. My spouse and I have very different tastes in programming and don’t alway watch shows together. We’re more likely to cook together.I’m not missing the point. The use case you describe is not the mainstream and this device won’t make it mainstream. Movies and television are generally consumed as shared experiences.
iPad apps run by default in AVP. You have to block them in the App Store to prevent it. Sure, if they wanted to design a new app that takes advantage of spacial computing it would require resources, but letting users start with the iPad does not.They're not wrong. The cost to develop an app, divided into just the subset of the 180,000 people who will be using it (and presumably not paying anything "More" than they would to simply use it via browser) probably doesn't make sense. If it takes off, I'm sure they'll jump aboard.
And now we come to the real reason for this. It’s not about the app. It’s about the relationship.Because they probably have strategic partnerships with Apple. Agreements that were forged long before the Vision was announced. Netflix and Apple rather famously have no such relationship. Netflix’s relationship with Apple is openly hostile.
Which seems to be what the eyesight feature is designed to address. So Apple does envision users wearing the Vision Pro in front of people, or when interacting with them. As with AirPods, it could well be one of those things that seems weird and off-putting at first, but then quickly becomes socially acceptable.Misdirect. Second screens don’t isolate people in the way a mask over your face does.