Like Netflix my dudes, I cannot express this enough.
If you do this, I will cancel and pirate your content instead.
If you do this, I will cancel and pirate your content instead.
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Netflix to Expand Crackdown on Password Sharing in Q1 2023
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I would imagine Netflix factors in some percentage of people acting unethically and sharing/stealing their service. And price their service to account for that predicted amount of theft. Which of course means people who are ethical and don't share their service pay more than they should so that others can get away stealing Netflix service.
What's worse is if Netflix underestimates the amount of theft. And then due to revenue being below expectations in order to sustain their business, needs to increase their subscription fees to meet their required numbers for all the costs (operating expenses for 2022 were $25.7 Billion) Netflix pays out.
It's easy to see why Netflix wants to get this under control.
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I do wish there would be some discount, or some bonus? for those who ever only watch one steam in a household?
I've never shared a password and never streamed more than one feed at a time, yet I'm paying for more than I need.
I'd rather them have a lower price for a single stream and then add a little on for each additional stream.
That's how my Antivirus software works. I pay for 1 PC to be protected and a little more for each additional PC.
I've never shared a password and never streamed more than one feed at a time, yet I'm paying for more than I need.
I'd rather them have a lower price for a single stream and then add a little on for each additional stream.
That's how my Antivirus software works. I pay for 1 PC to be protected and a little more for each additional PC.
I think the idea is, there is theoretical loss of revenue for Netflix from the people who would be paying for their own subscription if they are no longer able to get it for free through someone else’s account. So that theoretical lost money is the theft or damages or whatever.
As for whether or not that theoretical loss would be actual, I don’t think anyone can say for certain. It’s hard or maybe impossible to truly know how valuable something is to you until you really don’t have access to it without paying. Plus their catalogue could change.
Netflix password sharing is clearly abused and need some sort of reform. i use one sub among several devices, tv of course will be using the same Ip until maybe i change the service provider because they suck, but the iPad is always connected to various networks, will be interesting to see how they pull it off. Also i see a lot of entitled users here justifying password share with others, i mean your parents are living in another city i bet you're sharing your internet connection too
I wonder if they are going to implement minimum duration accounts... 3 months minimum and so on to counteract those of us who will account swap between different VOD services if we have to have pay more just to use our account at a second location.
Same situation here for me. I spend time in two locations and have two profiles on my account (one is used in both locations). Will be interesting to see how Netflix deals with this. I presume that using one account or one device in both locations (such as a mobile) could show that I'm not just sharing with a friend. An occasional pop-up on mobile device using same IP address could verify that it's not account sharing (although could be an issue if I'm not at a location when this happens).
I suspect this might be something they consider but it could go both ways as some people simply won't commit for extended periods. It may also mean that they'll wait longer to sign up after leaving so that they can binge watch.
I watch netflix in the office after work. My family and kids watch it at home... We also have a Hulu account. But if I'm going to be forced to pay extra to witch my Netflix in my office in the evenings (my taste in TV is different to my wife's) then I'm going to enforce a rolling VOD policy at home. One month NF one month Hulu.
I suspect I will not be the only one.
How are they going to differentiate between me watching at the office in the evenings and me sharing my account with someone living elsewhere?
I don't think all are whining. There are some that legitimately have reasons to use Netflix in more than one location.
It's not free – someone is paying for it (and most likely the premium account if it's being shared).
Netflix was cheap initially and they were happy to grow their business on password sharing. The issue now is that it's not cheap – especially for those paying for the UHD account which allows for four streams (ideal for sharing!) There's also far more competition now and content is spread across those services, which probably makes this policy seem like something is being taken away (even if this rule has always existed).
I spent half the week at my best half’s and use the laptop to watch netflix. I’m not paying extra to have the privilege. Netflix are shooting themselves in the foot.Good, pay their price for their service or unsubscribe but sharing with those outside your household is against the TOS and analogous to theft.
What is a Netflix Household?
A Netflix account is meant to be shared with people who live in the same location with the account owner.help.netflix.com
Sharing your Netflix account
A Netflix account is meant to be shared in one household – people who live in the same location with the account owner.
Simple as that.
Netflix is wildly overplaying its hand, considering the content it's been generating lately.
I think it will be a mix of checking device IDs and IP addresses. One device (such as mobile) could verify that you are regularly in the different locations where your Netflix account is being used (e.g. mobile with Netflix app is used to verify that you are on the same network or location as the other devices which has Netflix in those locations).
This assumes that Netflix are going to enforce this. They may be offering the option, periodically give a warning and hope that people pay the extra or perhaps upgrade to a tier which may allow this. The risk for Netflix in allowing sharing is that two or more friends with their own accounts could legitimately save by having one sharing account.
Just to be clear though, this is what you sign up for;
4 screens at a time in the same location.
This is what you haven't signed up for;
4 screens at a time in different locations.
Not that's because you have AGREED to use the product under THEIR terms of service. If you don't want to do this, don't take their money and if you do don't be butt hurt when they try to get you to do what you AGREED to do.
It seems people here are trying to justify theft. You say greed on the part of Netflix, but you forget or ignore the greed that leads to theft of the service.
Netflix wants people to stop sharing accounts?
Well then, a good start would be to stop forcing people to pay for more screens just to get access to 1080P(!) and 4K. 4K should not be an "upsell" in 2023, let alone "Full-HD."
The up-charge for 4K was likely a big driver for a lot of people to start sharing accounts.
If Netflix is going to force people to pay for four screens it only makes sense they'd try to get their money's worth...
Well then, a good start would be to stop forcing people to pay for more screens just to get access to 1080P(!) and 4K. 4K should not be an "upsell" in 2023, let alone "Full-HD."
The up-charge for 4K was likely a big driver for a lot of people to start sharing accounts.
If Netflix is going to force people to pay for four screens it only makes sense they'd try to get their money's worth...
Maybe Netflix will actually add good content on a regular basis as well That’s asking too much.
Netflix could offer a 1 screen 4k plan at a reduced cost. It would do a lot more to stop password sharing. They’re choosing to be customer hostile, let’s see how it goes.
If they do crack down on this (and as my two children have moved out I will be one that goes to Netflix jail), they must surely offer the 4k option for smaller number users. Their whole pricing model encourages what they are trying to clamp down on.
So how will this work if you have a second home for example. It's expensive as it is IMO. Its a good platform but there is a lot of rubbish on there too.
Not true for them to easy tell by using MAC address since iOS 14 and IPadOS 14 since every Wi-Fi connection you make will have a different MAC address and in iOS 15 they added if you haven’t connected to that Wi-Fi in 6 weeks you get another MAC address but you know some people update and change devices a lot or just have multiple device to so becomes hard for them to prove it’s not you.
The UHD-tier is too expensive for a single household imho. And yes, I'm justifying my "theft" with that and I'll gladly return to pirating that content. If they really limit sharing in my country, I'll cancel - and even if they after a lot of people do that start to offer a 1 household uhd stream for ~€10 it will probably still be too expensive for what it's worth for most people and too much of a hassle to join again. We'll see if their move will help their bottom line, or if they even see it through, but I'd bet against it.
Sad for netflix as less money will mean less content which in turn will mean less subscribers and even less money. But I'm no charity and as I watch it less than disney+ or even amazon prime I'm not willing to pay more for it.
Sad for netflix as less money will mean less content which in turn will mean less subscribers and even less money. But I'm no charity and as I watch it less than disney+ or even amazon prime I'm not willing to pay more for it.
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I don’t watch Netflix as it’s got terrible picture quality on the appletv especially in Dolby vision
Disney on the other hand is very impressive
Disney on the other hand is very impressive
I think Netflix would have been happy to continue the way things were but unfortunately Netflix users only have themselves to blame for abusing password sharing where it reached a point where it was out of control. Reddit, Facebook, Instagram and other social media platforms that allow communities to converse with one another all have posts where people have spoken about letting their friends, school, college and uni buddies, work collegues have their Netflix password. Some have mentioned about letting family members in other countries have the password. I have no doubt there are thousands upon thousands of college and uni students who have been given a netfilx password from a source not related to them and then it gets passed from friend to friend to friend.
You cannot blame Netflix for bringing in tighter controls on password sharing.
You cannot blame Netflix for bringing in tighter controls on password sharing.