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NetShare Unlikely to Return to U.S. App Store
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What monster are you talking about? ATT is doing what any other responsible business would do. They have a relationship to an exclusive product and now they are monetizing that relationship. This is no different than what Apple does on every one of its products every day. For what you get (hardware-wise) Apple products are over priced. The overall package is worth it to many people that is why they buy. If the overall iPhone package is not worth it then don't buy it. It's just that simple.
As far as the NSA stuff is concerned...I don't see how anyone in this day and age can really think that they can have any true privacy when using any modern wireless communication device. You should expect that you could be or are being tracked at any time. If that isn't cool with you you should not be using these devices.
And yes I would have to say it is not beyond comprehension that due to this business relationship ATT may have access to what you purchase on the App. Store. I could see ATT keeping track of the folks that purchased NetShare. Maybe that isn't "right" but it isn't "right" to use NetShare if it violates your contract with ATT, which it does.
I personally don't think this is anything to do with bandwidth. They just want to charge for it. And they are not going to let some application out there that facilitates the over use of their services.
Heck, who knows this might be due to Apple not wanting the app. out there. Maybe Apple didn't design the iPhone with tethering in mind. People have said their iPhones get really hot after a bit of use with NetShare. Maybe Apple doesn't like the idea of selling an application that cooks the insides of iPhones and leads to a ton of warranty issues.
Personally, I think it is a fine app. but it really isn't that big of a deal. Most of the people that I really see bitching are just pissed because they wanted something for nothing.
Yes I have read the AT&T TOS and Yeah I do believe Apple is behind the lack of tethering. It is because Apple hasn't written the application for it yet. Once Apple does AT&T will be more than happy to charge the extra $30 bucks a month for tethering the way they do for every other smartphone they sell. Why would AT&T not want to sell tethering for the iPhone? Does that make any sense at all?
Unlimited data means unlimited. No limits.
Unlimited data* usually means that * points to a "fair usage policy". They shouldn't say unlimited. They should say what "within reason" actually is.
One example is using SSH to connect to a remote linux server. That doesn't use much BW and could come in handy if you are on the road and need to check something out.Ummm...you bought an iPhone for a reason people. 90+% of what you want to do from your computer you can do from your phone. You pay for unlimited data for your phone, not your computer. But, my point is why do you want to tether your computer. The things you can't do from your phone would hog too much bandwidth anyway, videos, flash animations, etc. So, in reality, why are you tethering? To be able to say you can? I don't see the practicality in that
If they have a problem with tethering MY phone to MY computer, they should charge by the kb rather than manipulating what I am able to do with something that I am buying. I am purchasing a service from AT&T, namely unlimited data and 450 minutes of talking. What I do with my unlimited data and 450 minutes is up to me! If AT&T doesn't like that, then don't offer unlimited data! What they are doing is illegal. At the VERY least, it's false advertising.
By the way, AT&T is shooting themselves in the foot. As soon as Verizon opens up the 700 MHz spectrum and you can get a compatible iphone... it's game over.
By the way, AT&T is shooting themselves in the foot. As soon as Verizon opens up the 700 MHz spectrum and you can get a compatible iphone... it's game over.
Have you ever tried to buy something in the store in a country that is not yours? I got a coca-cola deal when I was studying in Oxford. The catch was that it was only valid in the UK music store for a couple songs. I thought no problem; I'll just enter the code in my itunes from the UK store then go shop there. Well my credit card was registered back in the states so that was a no go. You get some message like: "You cannot shop here b/c you are registered in the US." ...And then forget about going to the US store and entering the Brit. code.
Long story short. As far as my experience, Apple had thought of that, and it is well set up so you can't jump countries.
That's correct, accounts are based on where you're credit/debit card is registered. It's the only way to control the different licensing deals for music TV between countries.
I have bank accounts in both the US and UK and have two iTunes accounts. I can access both regardless which country I'm in.
I'm sorry to say this, but if you did not sync your phone back up to your computer and copy the app over to it, then its gone. iTunes, however, should have automatically backed up and synced your phone before updating it to 2.0.1, so check your Applications library and see if it exists there. You can also click the "Applications" tab when you dock your iPhone and see if NetShare is in the list.
If not, the only way to put NetShare on your phone is to jailbreak it and install it from a third party source, or use the SSH method
How dare Apple act as a telco-cop? How about EU customers?
I agree with most people saying it's not Apple's job to control what's legal in terms of mobile rate plan, since they have only an indirect link to the provider (in theory they should limit themselves to a pure manufacturer to provider relation).
I don't know how is it for you guys in the US, here in Europe (I speak for Germany and France), providers are trying to sell their discrete "UMTS/HSDPA USB modems" with specific rate plans, to try to limit tethering.
Some mobile contracts have tried banning the use, but is seems most business users find it more handy (if not cheaper) to have the same device and contract for on-phone/on-computer access. So contracts are slowly being reintroduced that allow this usage.
I will be SCHOCKED if Apple doesn't reintroduce this App at least in France. For a simple and legal reason: we are here allowed (as opposed to Germany or the States for example), to buy an iPhone with regular rate plans - i.e. not an "iPhone plan" - with all the limitations that may include.
I have for example what Orange France calls an "Origami First" rate plan, with unlimited data (except for mails, and reduced bandwidth after 500Mb); but this CLEARLY ALLOWS tethering on a PC, although this is not included in the unlimited data plan (which I am fine with).
Now, will Apple really see into the details and allow me to have this App? I'm afraid they won't, as very often, Apple seems very US-centered in terms of censorship policies
And anyway, you guys in the US should also have this app. You are intelligent and read your terms of contracts right? You wouldn't use this app if tethering was not allowed?
I agree with most people saying it's not Apple's job to control what's legal in terms of mobile rate plan, since they have only an indirect link to the provider (in theory they should limit themselves to a pure manufacturer to provider relation).
I don't know how is it for you guys in the US, here in Europe (I speak for Germany and France), providers are trying to sell their discrete "UMTS/HSDPA USB modems" with specific rate plans, to try to limit tethering.
Some mobile contracts have tried banning the use, but is seems most business users find it more handy (if not cheaper
) to have the same device and contract for on-phone/on-computer access. So contracts are slowly being reintroduced that allow this usage.I will be SCHOCKED if Apple doesn't reintroduce this App at least in France. For a simple and legal reason: we are here allowed (as opposed to Germany or the States for example), to buy an iPhone with regular rate plans - i.e. not an "iPhone plan" - with all the limitations that may include.
I have for example what Orange France calls an "Origami First" rate plan, with unlimited data (except for mails, and reduced bandwidth after 500Mb); but this CLEARLY ALLOWS tethering on a PC, although this is not included in the unlimited data plan (which I am fine with).
Now, will Apple really see into the details and allow me to have this App? I'm afraid they won't, as very often, Apple seems very US-centered in terms of censorship policies
And anyway, you guys in the US should also have this app. You are intelligent and read your terms of contracts right? You wouldn't use this app if tethering was not allowed?
This really sucks... What a great app and with "unlimited" data what the heck is the problem. I wish that ATT was not so money hungry and were more concerned about customer service. THIS SUCKS!!! I wasn't one of the lucky ones to get in on this when it was available. Maybe I'll just go the other route and jailbreak my phone and switch back to T-mobile
Because the TOS does not allow you to tether. AT&T had a plan that supported that and it cost more than the plan that didn't. AT&T no longer offers that plan, but people like me still have it as it is "grandfathered" in. I can tether all I want and not get charged for it. In the plan that didn't offer it, you would be charged per kB of data transfer.
That's correct, accounts are based on where you're credit/debit card is registered. It's the only way to control the different licensing deals for music TV between countries.
I have bank accounts in both the US and UK and have two iTunes accounts. I can access both regardless which country I'm in.
I have a feeling it's different though because you activate you phone to a specific iTunes account. I'm pretty sure you would have to sync an US phone to a US account and a UK phone to a UK account.
So even if you have two account it might still block you from putting stuff from the UK account onto a phone synced to the US account? Have you tried this?
Mobile service providers operate under the assumption that people will not go out and violate their contracts with them for fear of the tremendous fees that go along with it. They assume that when you buy an unlimited data package for your (and here's the operative word folks) *phone* (did you miss it
) they assume you won't use that phone, surreptitiously and in violation of their contract as a modem. Now, as we all see, that is not the case. I agree that they should point out what, "fair usage" is, but that takes away the marketing tool of saying "unlimited." Which sounds better to you? Unlimited data access, or "Unlimited within reason, please read fine print to find out what that amount is."Second, and I am too lazy to quote "Mr. Bushist Junta" (read, I'm kinda new and I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one post) I have two things to say to you.
1. All mobile phones now are required by law to be locatable to a short distance in the event of an emergency and a call to 911. It's called E911, look it up. During Phase II, implemented in 2001, the FCC mandated by law that all new cellular devices manufactured to be traceable within 100 meters. All cell phones now are traceable, if you don't like it, burn your phone and go out to the middle of the desert and bask in the sun.
2. President Bush is the duly elected President and Commander in Chief of the United States of America. He won fair and square, he did not violate the law in any way. Just because the electoral system that has been in place since the founding of the United States, did not pan out in favor of your candidate, does not mean he has acted illegally.
Well I've been using NetShare with my O2 iPhone (Ireland) with great success so far.
Checking my account online I can see that all my data usage that I have used has been included in my monthly download plan. No additional charges.
As long as this stay's I'll be happy
Checking my account online I can see that all my data usage that I have used has been included in my monthly download plan. No additional charges.
As long as this stay's I'll be happy
holy crap... I almost choked on my chocolate milk when I read this. what fantasy world do you live in?
Yeah, laugh at him, then maybe people will think there is actually evidence behind your position.
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You all need a life. People are dying all over the globe and you can't tether yet freeking laptop to your iPhone. Boo hoo
You all need a life. People are dying all over the globe and you can't tether yet freeking laptop to your iPhone. Boo hoo
I pointed out before the app store opened how unfair it is that Apple can dictate in the first place what you can and cannot put on your iPhone in the first place, not to mention that 30% off the top of every sale made by every person or company out there that designs software to run on the iPhone. I pointed out how people would have a FIT if Apple tried to tell them what software they could put on their desktop or laptop Macs, but I got so many replies telling me how it's Apple's iPhone and they're allowed to do whatever they want with it and if I don't like it, I can go buy someone else's phone or manufacture my own phone and then build my own app store for that phone if I don't like it because apparently even though the iPhone is just another Mac in a smaller form, people don't SEE IT that way for some bizarre reason (cuz it's like a phone dude!).
Well, the chickens are coming to home to roost now and in some self-satisfying smug way, I just have to love it. Maybe there's some actual justice in this world after all! Frankly, I hope Apple keeps right on playing the Communistic strong arm tactics and makes a lot of you so mad you actually come to your senses and start to change your views about Apple, consumer rights and maybe even Capitalism in general because despite what some people want to make you believe, it isn't all rosy in the church of money. Having consumer oriented regulations and laws might limit some rich shareholders profits a little bit (imagine if utilities were regulated again like they once were so they could only be sold to you at cost instead of for a profit...maybe your winter heating costs would still be tolerable today), but it sure makes the consumer a lot happier in the long run because the choices should be up to YOU, not the company selling it to you.
Verizon
For all those that think Verizon is better you are wrong. They charge $45 a month for their "unlimited, but not really plan" and if you want to tether your phone, they charge an additional $14.95 a month on top of that. so for $60 a month, you can do it. Verizon's unlimited data plan actually is only 5GB of data which is far from unlimited. A couple movies or a few downloads could easily reach that limit quickly.
I also have a Verizon air card and pay $59.95 a month for that plus my $45 Treo phone and I have 2 lines. My monthly bill is well over $200 a month. So if you think verizon is better, nope.
For all those that think Verizon is better you are wrong. They charge $45 a month for their "unlimited, but not really plan" and if you want to tether your phone, they charge an additional $14.95 a month on top of that. so for $60 a month, you can do it. Verizon's unlimited data plan actually is only 5GB of data which is far from unlimited. A couple movies or a few downloads could easily reach that limit quickly.
I also have a Verizon air card and pay $59.95 a month for that plus my $45 Treo phone and I have 2 lines. My monthly bill is well over $200 a month. So if you think verizon is better, nope.
oh you KNOW there is no evidence? well golly gee I guess Im wrong then. hum dee dum.
but even though I am wrong and the florida voters were not disenfranchised in 2000
, he did suchhhh a great job for 8 years that I should just ****Just download Netshare from 1 of about a billion torrent sites that have it, sheesh.
Piece of cake. And free that way. Since they've taken away my ability to have it by paying for it legally, I have no qualms whatsoever about downloading it for no $$$.
Piece of cake. And free that way. Since they've taken away my ability to have it by paying for it legally, I have no qualms whatsoever about downloading it for no $$$.
I'm so dumping ATT once their deal with Apple ends. I'm not asking for something for free, I'd gladly pay for the chance to do what NetShare lets me do.