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Its good that Apple aren't imposing AT&Ts will on to the rest of the world but instead adding this app to selected stores.

If you need tethering, then the iPhone isn't for you - or jail break it.
 
In my country, the providers have very clear policies, your iPhone plan includes between 250 MB and 1 GB of data per month. Every additional MB costs you 10 cents, but costs are capped at $100 per month + the normal rate of your plan. In other words, unlimited data costs you $100 on top of the normal rate plan.

If they can do it, why not everybody. If you want truly unlimited data and not just unlimited data within your ability to browse the web on the iPhone, just pay for it. No iPhone plan includes unlimited data, it only includes all the data traffic you can generate via browsing on the iPhone (and in some countries like mine, even less).

If the providers can get away with calling this unlimited, than this just shows that this kind of hyperbole is accepted within society (and thus legal).
 
I had it then I lost it

I had lucked out and got NetShare the second time that it appeared in the iTunes App store.
But then on one of my many connections of my iPhone I got the alarming message:

"The file "iTunes Library.itl does not appear to be a valid iTunes library file. iTunes has attempted to recover your iTunes library and renamed this file to "iTunes Library (Damages) .itl""

I figured it was something with iTunes version 7.7.1 so I went back to vestion 7.7.0. That seemed to work for a short while. I built up my library AGAIN (possibly the sixth time or so) with my 50 plus applications including a $24 app and backed it up to disc and low and behold I'm getting it again! I loose my applications and my ringtones both of which I've spent a LOT of money on. I can restore from disc but then I get this message all over.

1) Does anyone know why this is happening?

2) Does anyone know how to get individual apps out of this or how to repair these libraries so I can my purchased copy of NetShare back?

Thanks to all who respond especially with some sort of solution.

How many other's are experiencing similar problems?

laubin
 
2) Does anyone know how to get individual apps out of this or how to repair these libraries so I can my purchased copy of NetShare back?

Hmmm...you would have to hope that it's backed up in one of your iPhone backups. If it's not, then I am sorry to say NetShare is most likely gone, you can't get it back without jailbreaking. It's been pulled from the App Store so it isn't available for redownload.
 
This is just another reason I'll be jailbreaking in the near future. I also need a real last.fm app and intelliscreen
 
All right I am going to take these in order...

1. Flash, it hogs bandwidth like crazy and is used for videos and animations, not necessary stuff. Youtube is already on the phone

2. Writing long emails, I can type on my phone as quickly as I can on a computer. Practice more and that becomes no problem

3. Private Networks, umm...no experience with that, though check the app store, VPN clients are popping up here and there

4. Document collaboration, hmph...I have no fix for this either as Google Docs allows reading, but not editing

5. Video Conferencing, well, since you are holding a phone in your hand, you could, I don't know, actually use the phone. I find that video conferencing is overrated and is another bandwidth hog

Keep in mind that unlimited data does not mean as much data as I damn well please, it means unlimited within reason. If user A is using a few hundred MB of data or a GB or so and user B is using a hundred GB, ATT will see that as excessive and shut that user down, as is their right, as stated in you contract.
Hey, you missed the first one: transferring files. That would be the biggest use in my book. If I have a document on my laptop that needs to get sent out ASAP, I can't use Mobile Safari to do it.

But besides that...
1. Tell that to the sites' designers! I don't care if I don't like Flash...if I need to view a site that uses it heavily, then I need to find something to let me do that.

2. That's silly. I like the touch keyboard and I can type as fast on it as anyone I know, but I'll give $5 to any amazingly dextrous soul who can sustain (or at least reach) 70 wpm on that thing without having to make massive amounts of corrections. And don't get me started on making heavy edits.

3. There are too many corporations out there who are barely motivated to create client software for the Mac, much less the iPhone. This will likely be an issue for quite a while.

4. Yup

5. Again, sometimes these things are out of your control; if you're have to do something, it doesn't matter what anyone's opinion of the medium is.

If nothing else, I'll have to use my Mac for e-mailing documents. Receive an attachment, edit that attachment, e-mail attachment. Can't really deny that this is a basic function that comes up all the time.
 
How can AT&T tell?

How can AT&T even tell that you are tethered? I mean short of doing deep-packet inspection and looking at specific traffic how can they tell?
 
How can AT&T tell?

How can AT&T even tell that you are tethered? I mean short of doing deep-packet inspection and looking at specific traffic how can they tell?
 
How can AT&T even tell that you are tethered? I mean short of doing deep-packet inspection and looking at specific traffic how can they tell?

they cant. some will say if you use to much data like >5 gb they will flag you but there is no way you will use that much from tethering.
 
How can AT&T even tell that you are tethered? I mean short of doing deep-packet inspection and looking at specific traffic how can they tell?

They look at usage. Someone at Apple or ATT probably did some experiments and found out what 'normal' usage was for a month. If you use a lot of data, a lot more than that threshold number, then that makes them suspicious, and in the contract it says something about them having the right to limit or cut off your data usage at their discretion, as for prior notice, I am unsure about that, but they have to right to cut your access to their network.
 
they cant. some will say if you use to much data like >5 gb they will flag you but there is no way you will use that much from tethering.

Ummm...it's actually easy to use that much data, especially if you are downloading files. Say for example, you want to download a new movie to watch on your iPhone while on the road, away from a Wifi network. You aren't allowed to download whole movies over the air (anyone have any guesses why:p). Well, you fire up a tethering app, and start the download, if the mobile iTunes store won't let you download a movie, you will circumvent that. According to the iTunes FAQ page maintained on the Apple website, an average 2 hour movie runs about 1.5 GB. You plug the phone into the USB and leave it to download all night and in the morning you have your movie, and 1.5 GB of data moved across the network. Now, that big a file transfer will raise a red flag and cause them to suspect tethering. Do you now see my point? :cool:
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5B108 Safari/525.20)

You all need a life. People are dying all over the globe and you can't tether yet freeking laptop to your iPhone. Boo hoo
Let them die,hey most of them probably don't even know how to spell tethering,let alone afford the data plans,unless they were lucky eneough,like me,to get NetShare.I love it!
 
Let them die,hey most of them probably don't even know how to spell tethering,let alone afford the data plans,unless they were lucky eneough,like me,to get NetShare.I love it!

It makes me wonder if he realizes how stupid, arrogant, childish, selfish, heartless, and all around pathetic he sounds right now. I rarely go off topic in a forum, but sheesh, this is just crossing lines that shouldn't be crossed.
 
It makes me wonder if he realizes how stupid, arrogant, childish, selfish, heartless, and all around pathetic he sounds right now. I rarely go off topic in a forum, but sheesh, this is just crossing lines that shouldn't be crossed.

It takes one to know one!! Just kidding,my post was not intended to be taken seriously,think of it more as a parody of ignorance.All the terrible suffering in the world is abhorant to me also but out of respect for others I don't go around demeaning others for posting on tech sites as the original posting had!
 
They look at usage. Someone at Apple or ATT probably did some experiments and found out what 'normal' usage was for a month. If you use a lot of data, a lot more than that threshold number, then that makes them suspicious, and in the contract it says something about them having the right to limit or cut off your data usage at their discretion, as for prior notice, I am unsure about that, but they have to right to cut your access to their network.

If I listen to AOL radio, watch Youtube, or stream Pandora all day at work I would bet that I'd fall into the "higher" usage group of iPhone users. Maybe not 5GB, but more than your average users.

That said, given that NetShare only allows SOCKS compliant applications (HTTP browsers, Adium, AIM, etc.) the amount of traffic *most* Netshare users will be relatively small or in line with whatever normal iPhone data usage is. Yes you could drag a 1.5GB iTunes movie over your 3G/EDGE connection but your iPhone would be useless while you did this. I don't think that *most* users would choose to perform large file transfers this way.

My first argument is that if you load a web page that is comprised of 2MB of text, graphics, etc. via Firefox on your laptop or Safari on your iPhone, there is no difference to AT&T's network load. 2MB is 2MB if it is Safari or Firefox.

Second, I make the argument that the NetShare application is not tethering. Tethering is placing my laptop's IP stack on AT&T's network and thus using all ports, protocols, and services available to my Mac/PC. Like using an AT&T aircard. NetShare is an iPhone application (that I installed via AT&T's partner Apple) that just so happens to be controlled by my laptop. Given that NetShare is a proxy, I instruct NetShare to fetch web site to the iPhone that are then stored in the iPhone's memory then passed via wifi to my web browser where they are rendered. AT&T sells a "tethering" service and NetShare is different than that.

So IF one day I get the call from AT&T that I've been "using too much unlimited data" I feel compelled to ask:

1. It is unlimited. There is no such thing as "too much". (Yes, the same ol tired Comcast argument).

2. Prove it. Show me evidence that I was doing anything that goes against the AT&T TOS.*

3. Even if they do flag my account, I will fall back on the fact that I was merely using an application that was promoted to me via their bed-buddy Apple via the App Store.

* Yes I realize that they don't have to prove anything. However the above give you a great arguing position if you handle yourself right.

So, given that my personal usage case doesn't involve going anywhere near 5G (even with a full 8 hour day of heavy web surfing, AIM, eMail via Gmail) I don't think my data usage will fall out of line with most iPhone users. So I'll continue to use NetShare when I am in a pinch and not loose any sleep over it.

Note: as soon as someone ports slirp or some other full-IP-stack "tether" this is all moot. The kids will fire up torrents and ruin this for all of us.
 
so who is going to start selling their netshare apps that didnt get deleted to the masses that were not able to buy? :rolleyes:

I know there are alott of people out there who are mad, pist, or just a little annoyed that they waited or did not hit the buy button when they had a chance.

For ex. , I am stuck up on the top floor of our office for most of the day with no outlets or wifi connection. If I were to have an app like this, I would be golden.
 
so who is going to start selling their netshare apps that didnt get deleted to the masses that were not able to buy? :rolleyes:

I know there are alott of people out there who are mad, pist, or just a little annoyed that they waited or did not hit the buy button when they had a chance.

For ex. , I am stuck up on the top floor of our office for most of the day with no outlets or wifi connection. If I were to have an app like this, I would be golden.

Jailbreak + socks3 = profit!
 
I skimmed the thread and did not find an answer to my question.

I understand how to back up this application from the iTunes folder IF the application was purchased via iTuenes.

How would one backup the application if it was purchased on the phone?

Thanks.
 
It takes one to know one!! Just kidding,my post was not intended to be taken seriously,think of it more as a parody of ignorance.All the terrible suffering in the world is abhorant to me also but out of respect for others I don't go around demeaning others for posting on tech sites as the original posting had!

It is a good thing you were kidding, in cyberspace, I (and I'm guessing most people) tend to take everything said at face value, unless there is a statement noting the sarcasm (an emoticon, jk, etc.). That being said, I apologize for jumping on your back and tend to agree with you. This is a tech forum, it should be used for discussing technology, not politics or human rights. I am sure there are forums for that too somewhere
 
I skimmed the thread and did not find an answer to my question.

I understand how to back up this application from the iTunes folder IF the application was purchased via iTuenes.

How would one backup the application if it was purchased on the phone?

Thanks.

Bring up the applications in iTunes, drag App to desktop, then you have a copy on your desktop.

TEG
 
I skimmed the thread and did not find an answer to my question.

I understand how to back up this application from the iTunes folder IF the application was purchased via iTuenes.

How would one backup the application if it was purchased on the phone?

Thanks.

For the application to be backed up from the phone, it has to be synced to the computer to be added to a backup of the phone's software and settings. If it isn't in the backup on your computer, it isn't backed up. Purchasing it from the phone and purchasing it through iTunes are the same procedure, just purchasing it on the phone is limited to browsing the App Store
 
So when i sync it with the computer it will NOT delete the application from the phone?

It will only delete the application from the phone if i update the software, is this correct?

I would like to be 100% sure of what I am doing before I do it so that I do not lose this software.

Thank You.
 
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