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NetShare Unlikely to Return to U.S. App Store

Good question...

Quincy9219 said:
Ummm...you bought an iPhone for a reason people. 90+% of what you want to do from your computer you can do from your phone. You pay for unlimited data for your phone, not your computer. But, my point is why do you want to tether your computer. The things you can't do from your phone would hog too much bandwidth anyway, videos, flash animations, etc. So, in reality, why are you tethering? To be able to say you can? I don't see the practicality in that;)
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I actually enjoy using it for a better browser experience. Don't get me wrong, I love mobile safari app, but I also enjoy my 21" real estate display. Also, I love using pandora.com through my computer because I love to listen to music on my big speakers. And last but not least, (for those of who enjoy flash sites) I could actually access them too. :)

These are just a few things I enjoy doing while I tether, and that's just on my 1st gen iPhone too. :D
 
Idle said:
Transferring files, browsing web sites that require flash, etc., writing long e-mails, accessing private networks that require desktop software, video conferencing, online document collaboration. Stuff like that, I'd imagine.
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All right I am going to take these in order...

1. Flash, it hogs bandwidth like crazy and is used for videos and animations, not necessary stuff. Youtube is already on the phone

2. Writing long emails, I can type on my phone as quickly as I can on a computer. Practice more and that becomes no problem

3. Private Networks, umm...no experience with that, though check the app store, VPN clients are popping up here and there

4. Document collaboration, hmph...I have no fix for this either as Google Docs allows reading, but not editing

5. Video Conferencing, well, since you are holding a phone in your hand, you could, I don't know, actually use the phone. I find that video conferencing is overrated and is another bandwidth hog

Keep in mind that unlimited data does not mean as much data as I damn well please, it means unlimited within reason. If user A is using a few hundred MB of data or a GB or so and user B is using a hundred GB, ATT will see that as excessive and shut that user down, as is their right, as stated in you contract.
 
Skyfire yes,iPhone not yet!

Quincy9219 said:
All right I am going to take these in order...

1. Flash, it hogs bandwidth like crazy and is used for videos and animations, not necessary stuff. Youtube is already on the phone

2. Writing long emails, I can type on my phone as quickly as I can on a computer. Practice more and that becomes no problem

3. Private Networks, umm...no experience with that, though check the app store, VPN clients are popping up here and there

4. Document collaboration, hmph... have no fix for this either as Google Docs allows reading, but not editing

5. Video Conferencing, well, since you are holding a phone in your hand, you could, I don't know, actually use the phone. I find that video conferencing is overrated and is another bandwidth hog

Keep in mind that unlimited data does not mean as much data as I damn well please, it means unlimited within reason. If user A is using a few hundred MB of data or a GB or so and user B is using a hundred GB, ATT will see that as excessive and shut that user down, as is their right, as stated in you contract.
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SkyFire on the iPhone,Yes please.
 
Quincy9219 said:
I was reading another thread weeks ago and it raised an issue similar to this. All you own is the physical device. The silicon, plastic, gold, steel, aluminum, etc. that makes up the iPhone. That is what you own. You do not own the operating software, the app, the rights to bandwidth, the network the phone functions on. That is the property of Apple, the developer, and ATT or the respective network provider. When you signed a contract with them, you agreed to be bound by the network provider. If you do not like that, you can sever your contract, and leave ATT or the authorized provider where you live.
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Or I can jailbreak and install whatever software I damn well please, including Netshare....
 
Bless your little hearts...

I'm a fan of the iPhone and all, but I've had this app on my last 3 phones and have it on my current one. I download gigs per month and have never heard a peep from AT&T's billing department...

I hope it stays out of the app store so AT&T doesn't get wise...
 
They're different!!

iPhelim said:
Yes, you're way off base. And what the hell is an international version of iTunes!? They're all the same app. You could only purchase from the App Store of a different country if you had a billing address etc. there. However... i did download an App off the iTunes US Store (since i magically have an account there, despite not living there) and it refused to transfer to iPhone. I guess Apps from one countries store will only go to iPhones of the same country.

Also, O2 don't approve of iPhone customers using their phones as modems (mainly because they want to sell them their own mobile broadband package), it's not just AT&T (how many times have i said that :p )
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Unfortunately,more than once.
 
iPhelim said:
Yes, you're way off base. And what the hell is an international version of iTunes!? They're all the same app. You could only purchase from the App Store of a different country if you had a billing address etc. there. However... i did download an App off the iTunes US Store (since i magically have an account there, despite not living there) and it refused to transfer to iPhone. I guess Apps from one countries store will only go to iPhones of the same country.

Also, O2 don't approve of iPhone customers using their phones as modems (mainly because they want to sell them their own mobile broadband package), it's not just AT&T (how many times have i said that :p )
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I'm using apps from the US app store (including NetShare) on my UK phone with no problems at all. In fact, I've got a mix of apps from both stores.
 
Quincy9219 said:
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but why does Apple or ATT need to allow tethering? In my mind there is one, and one use to tethering. To browse the internet on a full fledged browser and not have to use a crappy, half-baked mobile browser. With the iPhone, you have a full browser at your finger tips. I've used others, and obviously, I use a computer, but by far, MobileSafari is the best browser I have ever seen on a phone. If you want to use a cellular data network on your computer, why bother buying a 200 dollar phone? Just buy one of those attachable network cards all the major players have and pay for their plans.
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that doesn't make any sense. ok, i don't live in the us, but in the northern europe it's increasingly common to 1. only have mobile/cell data connection and 2. not have multiple devices and plans, just one. what you suggest just doesn't make any sense (at least outside the us).

further, it's not $200 phone, it's $200 phone + $70/month contract phone. for that price you should be getting all the data usage you need, not to mention all the calls + texts + mms + video calls you need. in fact, with plan at that price point you should get the phone for free!

apple really needs to take att's foot out of their mouth. what a complete crap all the talk was about apple making iphone on apple's terms, not att's.
 
Quincy9219 said:
Ummm...you bought an iPhone for a reason people. 90+% of what you want to do from your computer you can do from your phone. You pay for unlimited data for your phone, not your computer. But, my point is why do you want to tether your computer. The things you can't do from your phone would hog too much bandwidth anyway, videos, flash animations, etc. So, in reality, why are you tethering? To be able to say you can? I don't see the practicality in that;)
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I don't own an iPhone. I was all set to get one until I realized that you can't email attachments. You can't even transfer files to the phone in order to attach them. The only work around I have heard would be to turn a PDF into a photo which gets resized to 640x480. Small text would become unreadable. I don't need much from my smartphone. But a few times a day I need to email a pdf generated on my MBP to the home office. This doesn't strike me as an exotic or data hogging activity. I believe Netshare would allow me to use the regular AOL or Google web mail sites which allow attaching. The iPhone routes you to special sites which prohibit this normal function.

Can anyone confirm that Netshare allows the creation of attachments?
 
christina frank said:
NetShare was an iPhone application that appeared briefly in the iTunes App Store before its removal. The application allowed users to share their iPhone's cellular internet . I am glad to utilize this.

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Yeah and it must have been removed because of technical problems of some sort so updates and a re-appearance of the app can't be that far off.I've already got it too but there are plenty of people who don't buy in to this "you can't have it" nonsense.
 
This will be the last reply I post for a few days but it's to anyone reading this from Apple.Now the iPhone is 3G, people want to tether with their phones whilst it's still (mostly) cheaper than a seperate two year contract at around $60 a month for a card etc.With high gas prices etc Apple should step up to the plate and design their own tethering app,allow billable tethering apps and take on some responsibility to their customers who could do with a reasonable tethering plan through their phones which has long been a way of saving a few hard earned dollars.
 
Maybe it was pulled for another reason...

Guys, think about it.

It is in Apple's best interest to have a load of happy iPhone users. To them, it can't possibly matter if you download stuff on your iPhone, or hooked up to your MacBook and use your iPhone to check your emails in Apple Mail etc.

For ATT, O2 etc. it should not matter either.

Unlimited - under common sense and how I believe the operators want to define "unlimited", is "unlimited normal use" - i.e. surf the web in a normal way, send and receive normal amounts of emails (thousands a month is certainly fine!), but if hundreds of thousands of users in the same day want to stream Harry Potter in HD, no network will handle this. And it would not be worth building the infrastructure for this and then still just charge 35-45 USD/GBP for the service. If it was that easy, some people would have raised a few hundred millions and started a testing network in a major city. I guess apart from some geeks and video freaks, there is no "real" - across the customer base - demand" for high-intensity video streaming. I for one want to watch this at home on a beamer with our Apple TV, not on my iPhone.

Ok, so what if it was pulled for the reason that Apple needs to have a chat with the operators about this, explain to them that the users want tethering, because

a) they are used to have this functionality on other 3G phones and therefore the iPhone should not lack this feature
b) that mobile internet use is up some hundred percent DUE to the iPhone is actually a GOOD thing for operators - they can make money by this, after all, traffic is the key ingredient to online money making etc. etc.
c) a sensible agreement between operators and power-users needs to be found, perhaps "unlimited use" needs to be defined in a common sense framework (and for god's sake geeks - this makes business sense - if I host a Game- or Video-Streaming Server on an island powered by four iPhones tethering - this doesn't make sense and does not fall under "normal unlimited use" does it?).

SO - maybe, tethering will soon be possible through an Apple app - free of charge to all, those who bought netshare may get a iTunes Music Store credit for $5 or $9.95 or whatever it cost, or maybe not, but the main point here is that Apple has the power to negotiate a solution with O2, ATT and other operators to allow their "common sense" user base to use tethering as much as they like, but will be blocked to a slower speed once they hit... let's say... 20 GB a month or whatever. Just like it is handled on other mobile broadband "unlimited use".

J.
 
Whew! Thank goodness I purchased mine in time! I had a feeling it would dissapear again, so I bought it.

I mean, I find it pretty pointless to remove it. It is a useful tool. I haven't configured mine yet, but I won't be using it like a hog.

Overall, it is a good travel companion. But if Apple or something disallows it from my iPhone, etc... I want my money back.
 
andreab35 said:
Whew! Thank goodness I purchased mine in time! I had a feeling it would dissapear again, so I bought it.

I mean, I find it pretty pointless to remove it. It is a useful tool. I haven't configured mine yet, but I won't be using it like a hog.

Overall, it is a good travel companion. But if Apple or something disallows it from my iPhone, etc... I want my money back.
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I just made the iphone update and I lost the netshare app, how can i get it back?
thank you
 
Steve...

Steve Jobs can't be happy with the way that AT&T has acted since the 3g has been released. I for one would love to get one but can't because AT&T apparently hasn't milked me for enough money to make it worth 'allowing me to upgrade'. I'd have to pay the big dollar price for the phone and I won't do it... Sorry Steve but it looks like you've created a monster...

One also has to wonder, on a paranoid bent, what the possibilities of AT&T surreptitiously tracking GPS equipped phone users are when you consider their capitulation to the NSA and the Bushist junta's illegal spying campaign and giving complete and total access to ALL of their customers communications to the most secretive administration in the history of American democracy.
 
ParishM said:
it's not a big deal, simply buy a cheap phone with 3G like a samsung sync or LG CU515 and use that when you need to tether. just swap the sim back and forth.

the pawnshops are full of cheap 3G phones for less than $40
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That's what I do. Sure, it's a PITA to carry around a second phone and a paperclip in my bag, but it works in a pinch. :cool:

Even an older phone -- like the Samsung A707 fits this need well. And the upside is that I have a cheapo spare phone for the weekends when I'm out doing something I wouldn't want my iPhone exposed to.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
One also has to wonder, on a paranoid bent, what the possibilities of AT&T surreptitiously tracking GPS equipped phone users are when you consider their capitulation to the NSA and the Bushist junta's illegal spying campaign and giving complete and total access to ALL of their customers communications to the most secretive administration in the history of American democracy.
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How's that new tinfoil hat working for you ? :D Yes the "Bushist Junta", whatever the heck that crackpot tripe is, is nearly is as secretive as Apple now.

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