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New 10th-Generation iPad Has Slower USB-C Port Compared to Other Models
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Exactly that's their whole plan with this and the regular 14s. They are just stepping stones to the higher models and more $$$
I don't see as many issues with Android as like five years ago, except the inconsistency on OS updates. At least with Apple you know when an iOS update is coming, and it's coming then barring the world ending
Well, in that case, why don't they use a plastic body instead of aluminum to save even more per unit? Lots of other ways they could've saved money but didn't.
I personally couldn't care less about a slower transfer speed in a base model iPad. If I were using an iPad for professional work requiring frequent high speed transfers, I'd be looking at an iPad Pro anyway.
That's probably true. I think this is a weird, weird price point. They really needed something between $349 (or whatever it was) and the cost of an Air?
Too many iPads, me thinks.
Nowhere in the UE regulation does it say that USB C has to support data at all. Apple might just call it a charging port and not allow data at all. WiFi 6e is so much faster than USB 2.0 that they might just skip data all together.
I think there’s probably now too many iPads and too many iPhones.
Tim Cook needs to go back and read Jobs’ biography on what he did when he came back from Next.
Only if you have 6E. I spent a load of cash on a 4 node Orbi system which is Wifi5. I don’t have the money to replace it with a 6E system.
Anything better than 802.11ac can do better than USB 2. Wifi5 can do well over double the speed of USB 2.0's maximum speed.
Not necessarily. Despite having a 1.7Gbps theoretical backhaul, the most I get is about 500Mbps between Wi-Fi nodes. Orbi or perhaps the wifi5 standard seems to cap the transfer rate, although I believe it allows 3 devices to transfer at 500Mbps each simultaneously.
I find it very annoying, it’s not what I paid for.
Anyway, I wouldn’t like to depend on Wi-Fi sync.
The new EU regulation will not apply to existing products on the market when it goes into effect at the end of 2024. Apple would still be able to sell the 9th gen iPad. Even next year's iPhones could still be lightning if Apple really wanted to do that.
With Apple making so many compromises with this iPad, why ddi they even bother with it? I remember back years ago when Apple said they weren't in the low cost device business because they would have to sacrifice the quality of the device for that lower price. Now it feels as though they sacrifice quality for a higher price. If this iPad was $349, all of these trade offs could be ignored but not at $449 and not while refurbs Pros and Airs are being sold at very similar prices.
It’s the base iPad for majority of people… it doesn’t matter. It’s probably just there to comply with the new USB C mandate.
Are they compromising though? At all? I can't see it.
They have added more convenient USBC port. They have vastly updated the shell to be more inline with modern iPad design, no bezels, new colours etc. They have revamped and moved the camera to a better position. Touch ID built into the side/top button. They have even made a special keyboard attachment for it.
It's not compromised save a couple of extremely minor things, a slow data transfer rate - which is really not the target buyers main concern (and hasn't been downgraded from the previous model either), and they have made it so its compatible with pencil 1, and again - the target buyer is just as likely a first time buyer as they are a base model upgrader. The upgrader doesn't need a new pencil. The first time buyer gets a cheaper pencil option.
Talk about blowing everything out of proportion. And you're supposed to be logical.
I wasn't even interested in the base model iPad, but every single thing we've learnt about it is really putting me off Apple and shows what their intentions have come to by pushing everyone to the more expensive devices, at the compromise of shipping extra products/parts. In terms, causing more electronic waste and extra resources
- no magnetic strip for pencil gen 2 = pencil gen 1 with dumb adaptor backflipping on save the environment idea entirely
- no laminated display on a "new" device this expensive, surely wouldn't have cost them any more to use the exact same display & shell from air 4/5
- USB-C limited to USB 2.0, welcome to 2000 Apple
So that makes it okay to have USB speeds from the year 2000? it's embarrassing. It wouldn't have cost much extra to have a USB controller supporting 5Gbps. It's on purpose so people spend more on the other iPads...
It's common to have faster ports on better computers, It's a major selling point used by the entire industry.
And all base iPads have always had this speed, so its hardly a new conscious decision to upsell - it's massively irrelevant for the target market.
Yep, exactly. This tactic has become more obvious over the past year and half especially. The MacBook Air/Pro upgrade with slow storage on base model was one thing and now the cost cutting has come to the iPad...
No. Stop these lies right now. No other manufacturer practices segmentation of products.
So all ports on every other system by every other manufacturer are level and equal with the top spec of said port, regardless of price or how low end it is? Don't talk nonsense.
Apple pushes the 10th-gen iPad having video output that supports DisplayPort output of 4k @ 30 Hz or fullHD at 60 Hz through the USB-C port - USB 2.0 bandwidth is not enough for that, the "classic" setup is USB 3.x of 5 Gbps along DP 1.4, which allows 4k @ 60 Hz output along data.
In this case, does DisplayPort use a separate "pipe" in parallel? Apple is crippling the data pipe to 2.0 speed to give the more expensive iPads an edge?
In this case, does DisplayPort use a separate "pipe" in parallel? Apple is crippling the data pipe to 2.0 speed to give the more expensive iPads an edge?
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Here in Europe it is even worse: One can get a new iPad 9. Gen. (64 Gb) for about 355€ whereas the new iPad 10. Gen. starts at 579€ (with tax being added !). I see the transition to smaller bezels, a larger screen size etc. but i don't get the huge increase in price. I wonder who would be the "target group" for this product....
I hope that the price will come down (it should come down, other wise it will sit on the shelves for a looong time) to at least to 499€ - this would be acceptable, given the larger screen size and the better camera.
I hope that the price will come down (it should come down, other wise it will sit on the shelves for a looong time) to at least to 499€ - this would be acceptable, given the larger screen size and the better camera.
It's a massive increase here it's true. But you're comparing a price you can find an old iPad at and how much Apple are selling the new version for. Really, you should compare what Apple is selling them both for, for the right comparison; and that's 439€ for the 9th gen. When the 10th gen stops being more than a day old, it too will be able to be found reduced.
I cant say I understand why the Cellular upgrade is 170€ for the 9th gen and 200€ for the 10th though.