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Keep your current 2020 / 2018 iPad Pro’s with magic keyboard. Save your nearly 2 grand (with tax and $400 for the new MKB) money for those beautiful new 14” MBP’s coming later this year. They will be far more drool worthy than this update anyways. If this is absolutely true, my desire to sell my 2018 12.9” iPad Pro just went out the window. Big iPad OS changes are the only thing that could sway this purchase now.
Agreed, but so far, it seems like iPadOS itself is likely to not change functionally all that much. Widgets anywhere on the Home Screen and probably some under the hood improvements. I’ve decided to hold on to my 2018 12.9 and Magic Keyboard combo until the next generation iPad Pro. I’ll hold out until the 14” MacBoom Pro comes out and replace my base 2017 MacBook Pro
 
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As others have already pointed out. The Verge noted that the checked their sources and confirmed it.

But we can confirm this ourselves! Apple lists the a new keyboard for the 12.9 iPad Pro on the store if you drill down. It isn't yet available for purchase either.


If you were to do the same for the 11" they don't list a new generation and the only keyboard they list as unavailable right now is the White Keyboard that we all know is new. So they are clearly saying they have a new keyboard here. This is as confirmed as we'll get. The question remaining is why this is happening. It obviously isn't thickness.

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It isn't thickness I bet. If I were a betting man (I'm not) then I'd place my wager on magnet placement. They moved the magnets in such a way to either make the case unable to securely hold the tablet or the tablet will get pulled by the strong magnets into an alignment that prevents the smart connector from properly aligning. Either way, they should have made this distinction clear during the keynote or on the store pages... For a company claiming to focus on the environment they also should make sure these lasts longer than 1 year... I'd even wager a swap with a purchase should be allowed so these can be recycled properly and potentially turned into refurbs.
I think you’re probably on the money although the tech reviews on YouTube will be confirming this no doubt soon.
 
It's not weight. Others have used an iPad Pro protective case that's 75 grams heavier and 2mm thicker. Still works with the existing keyboard. Either it will work, but Apple is merely pushing people to use the newer keyboard. Or it is the magnets that will be the issue.
Apple probably has a magnetic strength they require for their stress testing and with the extra weight the iPad may not break its magnetic connection easier than Apple is comfortable with. There are only three things at play here:

1. The Mk can't close (already tested false)
2. The magnet position has changed (since the keyboard is backwards compatible this is it)
3. The iPad doesn't remain attached as securely (a heavier iPad has the same effect as weaker magnets)

I'm betting its 3.
 
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As others have already pointed out. The Verge noted that the checked their sources and confirmed it.

But we can confirm this ourselves! Apple lists the a new keyboard for the 12.9 iPad Pro on the store if you drill down. It isn't yet available for purchase either.


If you were to do the same for the 11" they don't list a new generation and the only keyboard they list as unavailable right now is the White Keyboard that we all know is new. So they are clearly saying they have a new keyboard here. This is as confirmed as we'll get. The question remaining is why this is happening. It obviously isn't thickness.
I don’t think that thickness can be ruled out completely. The 11-inch has not changed in thickness at all; 2018, 2020, and 2021 are identically thick. That could explain why there isn’t a new 11-in. keyboard. Additionally, Smart Folio, which does not rely on magnets, is also new for 5th Gen. iPad Pro 12.9. It’s conceivable that both the Smart Folio and Magic Keyboard are just a tiny bit wider in the new versions.

Magnet placement and weight are plausible reasons, but thickness can’t yet be ruled out, in my opinion.
 
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After buying an iPad Air and MK In January, I now believe Apple should probably sell iPad Pros with a MK as one unit. With M1 the Pros essentially are just iPadOS laptops, so they might as well treat them as such. Even though my finances are a bit tight right now (especially after I order my M1 Mac Mini), I may consider a 12.9 iPad Pro as a laptop replacement if they release Xcode and Logic Pro for iPadOS at WWDC, and I am essentially including the cost of the keyboard in the final price of the purchase.
This is a bit off topic and I know it’s wishful thinking, but I just hope that there’s a lot of noise around this and that it gets to the right ears. Not asking for a full fledged MacOS experience (not yet at least) but “Pro” apps like final cut, xcode, Logic, etc would be a darn welcomed addition (and I would upgrade my 11” to any of the M1 in a heartbeat).

For some reason, an iPadPro + smart folio keyboard is fine combo. For me, it became exploration grounds and lowered some motivational/psychological/etc entry barriers. Suddenly I found myself learning to draw, plugging midi keyboards to it in garage band, jumping back and forth for markup continuity annotations, affinity photo/designer and more. Pretty sure if XCode were to happen I would finally put to work all the tons of hours I have spent watching Swift related tutorials but didn’t find the willpower to write them physically.

(For context: I spend an unhealthy amount of time and effort daily in C#/Unity/3D/Sound/MotionGraphics land daily and on the weekends I don’t want to touch a desktop anymore)
 
Apple could have addressed this with a trade-in program for older Magic Keyboards. If they cared. Which they probably don't. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Capitalism. Gotta love it.
I think I’ll get the North Korean iPad Pro instead. The innovators in that country at least have the best interest of us consumers in mind. Capitalism never gave us any good products.
 
Apple could have addressed this with a trade-in program for older Magic Keyboards. If they cared. Which they probably don't. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Capitalism. Gotta love it.

Unless your magic keyboard is in mint condition, it likely has virtually zero resale value. To Apple or to anyone else.

The trade-in programme’s value for Apple is that it provides them with a steady stream of used Apple products that they can then refurbish and resell in the gray market.

It makes no sense for Apple to extend this programme to something that can’t be readily resold like the magic keyboard or AirPods.
 
I wonder if the question is about thickness at all, there were rumours that the camera bump on the 12.9” model would be larger than previously. If that is the case the camera bump might not physically fit in the old hole.
 
They are intentionally making new iPad look like a bad deal, because it is a future. They still need to make money of laptops somehow, at least for a year or two.
 
If it is not compatible, I don’t want to hear Apple say what an environment friendly company they are, because making the 2020 Magic Keyboard obsolete after one year is not even close to being environmentally freindly and they should be crucified over it, if the above is true.
 
If it is not compatible, I don’t want to hear Apple say what an environment friendly company they are, because making the 2020 Magic Keyboard obsolete after one year is not even close to being environmentally freindly and they should be crucified over it, if the above is true.
Good news for you, it's compatible with the 2021 and it still works perfectly with a 2018 and 2020.
 
So you can sell your old iPad to get the new one, but can't sell the Magic Keyboard with it... I must've missed that in that big screen of Terms & Conditions I agreed to ;)
 
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Unless your magic keyboard is in mint condition, it likely has virtually zero resale value. To Apple or to anyone else.

The trade-in programme’s value for Apple is that it provides them with a steady stream of used Apple products that they can then refurbish and resell in the gray market.

It makes no sense for Apple to extend this programme to something that can’t be readily resold like the magic keyboard or AirPods.
Which is why it should last more than one year. I guarantee you there are people who have an older iPad Pro with a MK they bought last year. They’d like to upgrade the iPad but don’t need to upgrade the keyboard. And from the looks of it there is no difference in the functionality of this new keyboard. Apple certainly didn’t mention anything. People can stomach having to buy a new phone case but a $350 keyboard?
 
Which is why it should last more than one year.
It does. There's nothing wrong with it and it'll last longer.

All I've read for years now us complaining about how thin the iPad is and how fragile it is as a result.

So now it's thicker and everyone's complaining....

This only effects the 12.9" model - you know - the one with a radically different screen technology.

My Magic Keyboard for the 9.3" original isn't remotely useful for the newer iPads. Never bothered me.

This also only effects folk who buy new every year - and if that's your gig then, to be quite frank, stop complaining because you're already burning through several hundred bucks in the process.
 
Has anyone actually tested this? Or are they just going by the specs? It would be a pretty big omission on Apple’s part not to say somewhere that older keyboards aren’t compatible with the new 12” Pro. I hope Rene Richie or someone who has contacts within Apple PR can confirm this.
If the existing model worked with the new Pro why would there be a new revision?
 
Which is why it should last more than one year. I guarantee you there are people who have an older iPad Pro with a MK they bought last year. They’d like to upgrade the iPad but don’t need to upgrade the keyboard. And from the looks of it there is no difference in the functionality of this new keyboard. Apple certainly didn’t mention anything. People can stomach having to buy a new phone case but a $350 keyboard?
How is this any different from say, the iPhone battery case? People buy it because it's more integrated with the iPhone compared to say, a separate power bank. But they have to have known that this case likely will not be compatible with subsequent iPhone models. If you are the kind to upgrade your device every year, then maybe an integrated accessory designed to work only with a specific model isn't the best choice. If you see yourself holding on to your iPhone for 3-4 years, then it makes more financial sense.

I don't think Apple purposely went out of their way to force people to buy a separate Smart Keyboard for the new iPad Pro but at the same time, they are not going to force themselves to maintain backwards compatibility with an older product if it doesn't suit their design and engineering needs.

It's just the risk when you are buying a product that is designed to work really well with a specific product, vs a more generic product like a bluetooth keyboard. Even now, people choosing to buy the M1 iPad Pro will have to ask themselves the same question, because again, there is no guarantee that this iteration of the Smart Keyboard will work with the next refresh.
 
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The Apple keyboard for my 9.7" iPad only fit one year but no one threw a fit over that. Meanwhile it's lasted me 5 years.
It’s because the magic keyboard is much more expensive. It was a tough pill to swallow for most buying it in the first place. Much less twice in two years.
 
If the existing model worked with the new Pro why would there be a new revision?
My theory is that because the iPad "floats" Apple requires the magnets to have a specific attachment strength so it will stay attached despite being bumped or bounced around in a bag and the heavier iPad has the same effect as slightly weaker magnets. I bet the new iPad works just fine in the old MK, but since it doesn't meet Apple's stress tests well enough Apple won't endorse it for use.

You'll notice that the Keyboard Folio is compatible because it doesn't suspend the iPad in the Air.
 
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I don’t think that thickness can be ruled out completely. The 11-inch has not changed in thickness at all; 2018, 2020, and 2021 are identically thick. That could explain why there isn’t a new 11-in. keyboard. Additionally, Smart Folio, which does not rely on magnets, is also new for 5th Gen. iPad Pro 12.9. It’s conceivable that both the Smart Folio and Magic Keyboard are just a tiny bit wider in the new versions.

Magnet placement and weight are plausible reasons, but thickness can’t yet be ruled out, in my opinion.
Smart folio does rely on magnets.
 
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