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Havier, bigger and with 2.5 hours less battery.
30Wh battery vs 41Wh battery of the MacBook which is smaller.

Teardown reveals less classy construction.

Not good at all.

Heavier? Last I checked 2.03lbs is heavier than 1.85lbs. That's with an i5 vs the core m.
I was going to post more but I'd just be repeating myself. Try reading and comparing those two again. You're really missing something.
 
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I will concede that Apple's laptop lineup seems muddled right now, but some of the criticism of the MacBook seems to miss the point. I haven't had the urge to stick something in one of the holes on the side of my MacBook Air for at least two years (other than a power cord when needed), but I have on occasion wished that it were thinner and that it had a better display. You know, like this computer. Your priorities may differ and that's why Apple sells other machines.

Yeah? Other machines? So where's their sub-$1000 notebook with 2016 parts...??

I.e., where's the portable Mac for the rest of us (who don't have pink MB $$ to spend on a functional totable), which has been the Air (their best selling computer ever)... ...but the "update" on the Air says only that it's been left to molder with last year's parts at this year's prices (i.e., no price drop for outdated innards) - and just a dollop of RAM to call it a "new" model....??

Worst sub-MBP refresh cycle. Ever.

Apple seems more interested in watch bands and chassis colors than in this segment.
 
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I ordered one today. I thought I had put Rose Gold behind me, but when I saw photos of it I had to have it. They gave me the triple adapter for free.
 
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The MacBook won't be a suitable everyday machine until Cannonlake. The Core M processors and abysmal iGPU leave us lacking.

Now, for those looking for an ultra-portable complimentary machine, it's perfect. Still, it won't be replacing the MBA or MBP anytime soon.
 
Mixed reaction? Yeah, because pro users continually get on here to whine about it. There are three lines of MacBooks and some people need to completely bitch and moan if they all don't fit their needs.

I would love one of these eventually if a larger display option comes out (I look at my 13.3 MBA and figure the right engineering could pack a 15" display in this case. I could not deal with 12.), wireless peripherals get better (I don't have BT headphones, thus port needed) and the power catches up with the MBA line.

So guess what? I have a MacBook Air. It's pretty awesome except for my short-sightedness on storage. I mean I couldn't have known I would need to throw MS Office on here and then later Parallels and Windows, but oh well. It took me a couple of years to get to that point.
 
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The MacBook won't be a suitable everyday machine until Cannonlake. The Core M processors and abysmal iGPU leave us lacking.

Now, for those looking for an ultra-portable complimentary machine, it's perfect. Still, it won't be replacing the MBA or MBP anytime soon.

Is Cannonlake a 10 nm transistors than the Skylake that is 14 nm?

I hear Cannonlake is to come out later this year. So Apple may jump on it.
 
Tim Cook is busy taking pictures and accepting interviews and spending time with any other organization other then Apple. Jony Ive is also always busy taking pictures and getting interviewed. They both crave attention. Ive try to show off his design with skinny fonts, transparency everywhere and products that are light and thin but don't work. Both of these people ego is beyond comprehension. These two can't be left alone and need adult supervision. Without Steve Jobs these idiots are killing Apple.
 
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It's time Apple ditches Intel and swaps to ARM.

iPad Pro got scores of 3224 and 5466 - beating the new MacBook on single core by over 10% and falling behind on multicore by less than 7%.

The A9X used in the iPad Pro costs $37.30. The Intel chips in this new computer start at $281.

So Apple could save themselves $240 and get a 10% speed boost on single core, with only a slight hit to multicore.

Obviously on the top end it makes sense to stick with Intel (for now) but really, it seems to me ARM is beating the crap out of Intel on the low end.

I think they're getting there, at least for the Macbooks, but they need some more time.
I don't think the Macbook is the right product for my needs, but if it was I wouldn't mind having a custom Soc instead of an Intel x86. CPU speed is the least important aspect of such a product, so ARM would be a good choice since iPad pro is really close to the Macbook. GPU power is becoming more and more important so as long as you put a fast GPU on a product like the iPad or the Mac you're good to go
 
cannonlake(2H-2017) is after kaby lake. (2016)

Remember, it's no longer tick tock. it's Optimization, Process Architecture.

In this case, Skylake was the new architecture, Kaby Lake is the Optimization and Cannonlake shrinks from 14 nm to 10 nm.
 
I have never understood why one would buy this over a MacBook Air.

Totally agree and what a waste of money the MacBook is. My Air 13" 256g is almost 3 years old and it's been excellent.

The best Apple products to own together is:- MacBook Air, 12.9 iPad Pro and iPhone 6s plus. Apples watch will only be any good once it has GPS and a sim card.
 
Stop with the pink laptop color - instead focus on adding another port, better faster ram, drop the price - basically what every one who is interested wants.
You are not the target group of this product. Those who are interested appreciate color variety. Recent Apple products are always also some kind of fashion statement. Tech nerds are interested in ports, ram and other unimportant spec details. The actual buyers of this product have different priorities and those are being catered for by Apple.

(Although I have yet to meet anyone who enjoys that awful keyboard.)
Here! *raises hand*

Coming from a rMBP, I was first pretty reserved towards it after I tested it in a local electronics market. Today I appreciate it even more than the comparably wobbly keys on the rMBP. I feel that I can type faster with less errors on the MB keyboard and I really love the precise travel of those keys, no matter where you hit them. It took a while to learn to use less force while typing and get (mentally) adjusted to the lower key travel. Once that phase was over, I have started to enjoy typing on it.

I'm not only convinced it will be part of the revised MBP's this year, but I'm really looking forward to it becoming the new standard keyboard in Apple notebooks. Just like with music - the really good stuff needs some time and multiple listening sessions before you appreciate it.
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what a waste of money the MacBook is. My Air 13" 256g is almost 3 years old and it's been excellent.
Only that once you've looked at a Retina screen you have a hard time returning to that crappy lo-res screen in the MBA. The Air had its prime, but it is outdated by now. For me, buying an Air today would be a waste of money.
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I have never understood why one would buy this over a MacBook Air.
In comparison, the Air is bulkier, heavier, has a significantly worse screen and an (arguably) worse keyboard for fast typers. Different tools for different use cases.
 
I just struggle to see where I would recommend this over the cheaper Air. Retina display but weaker graphics, slower CPU, less battery life and the 12" Macbook costs $100 more than the 13" Air with the same RAM and Flash Storage...what's to like?

Screen, screen, screen, screen.
Weight, weight, weight, weight.

It does not really matter if the Airs are better in every other way, since these two factors are some of the most important for many notebook users.
 
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Just ran the GeekBench trial on my rMBP mid 2012 2.6 i7 and the scores for single core came out more or less identical to the video and the multi core score came out roughly 2x better (assuming the macbook is duel core and the rMBP is quad core).

These seem like pretty good results to me for something that is touted as 'useless'.

* The trial of GeekBench only allows the 32bit version to test with.
** It's the morning so the scientific merit of this test cannot be verified.
 
People need to calm down a bit.

The Macbook is not a replacement for Macbook Pro, those will be updated, most likely on WWDC or later.

This Macbook, is all about portability (for those that travel a lot) and for usage that doesn't require much from the specs. For someone, that the only intensive thing he uses is the word and Excel or to see email and surf the web and travels a bit, this laptop for them.

The others who use a bit more demanding apps, then clearly this Macbook isn't for you.

I for one welcome they improve the specs, but despite not agreeing with the price tag, the small bump on specs, makes me the specs are slightly closer to price tag I agree.

let us see what else Apple will bring this year.
 
this isnt meant to be for pro consumers, its meant to be for portability, for fashion, we probably will see even more girls/women with these out in the wild, because design sells.

It is meant for people who value weight, low footprint without compromising the screen quality above all else in addition to those who just want a beautiful notebook no matter the cost.
 
Arguably true, except when I look at my own family members, I still can't recommend this except maybe as an outside alternate option.

These days, I think computing has come so far along with power/specs for the dollar that your "average/regular users" can barely justify spending over $1,000 on any new machine. (By average, I'm truly talking about the typical person making an average income.) For example, my mom doesn't have enough retirement income to reasonably shell out $1,200 or more for a new notebook computer - especially when all she does with it is check email once in a while, make greeting cards occasionally, and keep some of her family history research info in it. She was actually perfectly ok poking along with a Windows XP desktop machine that's over 10 years old now, except everyone's advising her to upgrade because XP is unsupported and unsafe to use online anymore.

And I was just talking with a co-worker yesterday because she wanted advice on what to buy for her teenage daughter. She was using another 10+ year old computer that's literally falling apart now, and she needs something better for both school work and some gaming. (She doesn't play 3D shooters or anything, but more like older strategy games.) Her budget was "something under $1,000" for her, too. If you want to stick with a Mac in this price range, you're pretty much stuck going with a Mac Mini or someone's used machine. I wouldn't see a good reason to talk her into exceeding her budget by a few hundred bucks just to squeeze into getting a "new Macbook" .... Especially not when you still have extra costs for the USB-C to USB dongle, or USB-C to external VGA adapter, or what-not. (People like her will still want to attach USB thumb drives or external hard drives that have standard USB on them.)
Apple is another luxury brand right now, you wouldn't recommend to this mother a Prada suit for their kid either.
1500 USD or euros, is a lot of money.
 
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