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I wonder if this computer is powerful enough for watching HD movies or using google earth 3D view? You need fast CPU and GPU for watching HD movies or using google earth 3D view?
 
Apple loves people like you. They don't have to give more. They know people like you will still pay a premium price for it and defend Apple's decision to do so. For a few dollars more they could go to better parts, but why?
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That is true.

This is an utter load of crap, and frankly, Macrumors is in need of a serious moderation policy overhaul because the tone of the comments here is getting progressively more negative to the point that there is really no point in engaging in any conversation here.

The truth is there is NO other laptop on the market that is built with more attention to detail about every aspect of its design than the Macbook. It just happens to have a different design intent than most people, yourself included, seem to even be able to believe exists. It's meant to be the slimmest, lightest, full-function laptop they could make with the available technology. It has a fabulously expensive display, chassis, battery, keyboard, trackpad, etc. Do you really think they threw in a 480p camera in there to save .50? Really? When EVERY other part on the device is the best available for the target goal? What you don't realize is that the screen half of the rMB is incredibly thin. It's less than half the thickness of an iPhone. It's so thin that the only thing that makes sense, when you think logically rather than making a knee-jerk comment for who knows what reason, is that there isn't a higher resolution camera available that thin. Nothing else adds up.
 
This is an utter load of crap, and frankly, Macrumors is in need of a serious moderation policy overhaul because the tone of the comments here is getting progressively more negative to the point that there is really no point in engaging in any conversation here.

The truth is there is NO other laptop on the market that is built with more attention to detail about every aspect of its design than the Macbook. It just happens to have a different design intent than most people, yourself included, seem to even be able to believe exists. It's meant to be the slimmest, lightest, full-function laptop they could make with the available technology. It has a fabulously expensive display, chassis, battery, keyboard, trackpad, etc. Do you really think they threw in a 480p camera in there to save .50? Really? When EVERY other part on the device is the best available for the target goal? What you don't realize is that the screen half of the rMB is incredibly thin. It's less than half the thickness of an iPhone. It's so thin that the only thing that makes sense, when you think logically rather than making a knee-jerk comment for who knows what reason, is that there isn't a higher resolution camera available that thin. Nothing else adds up.
I think he realized that this laptop is not a true upgrade and that's not obvious to individuals like you when it's very obvious to myself and others. Apple basically gave you the same laptop over again and rebranded it with slight spec upgrades that really don't account for much. Tell me how will this laptop change your usage habits or improve them in comparison to the previous 12 inch macbook. It will only slightly improve them so it's not much of an upgrade.
 
I think he realized that this laptop is not a true upgrade and that's not obvious to individuals like you when it's very obvious to myself and others. Apple basically gave you the same laptop over again and rebranded it with slight spec upgrades that really don't account for much. Tell me how will this laptop change your usage habits or improve them in comparison to the previous 12 inch macbook. It will only slightly improve them so it's not much of an upgrade.

Who is talking about upgrading? Apple does this kind of spec update all the time. It makes sense. They continue to benefit from existing tooling and production line investments. Consumers benefit by getting the latest round of silicon for the same price, or to save money by buying the older version. What, exactly, are you trying to get at?
 
The Rose Pink looks even more hideous on a larger device.

I go back and forth on the color to be honest. I see my wife's Apple Watch and think it looks great but then I'll spot a co-worker with a 6s plus and think the opposite. I honestly think that lighting plays the biggest role in how well the color comes off compared to the other 3. It's always good to have choices though.
 
Who is talking about upgrading? Apple does this kind of spec update all the time. It makes sense. They continue to benefit from existing tooling and production line investments. Consumers benefit by getting the latest round of silicon for the same price, or to save money by buying the older version. What, exactly, are you trying to get at?
So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money. Guess the OP was right anything is amazing and satisfactory to some of you on this forum,....
 
So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money.
You are so missing the point on so many levels.
 
Technical arguments aside, I have to say that I like rose gold in small devices (like my phone), it's an accent color in a way, but I'm not sure about it on larger devices. Seems kind of overwhelming to me.

More so for females into color rose gold .
 
A computer that was never meant to have premium specs continues to not have them. Not exactly news. This computer never appealed to me in the first place, but I guess it's okay for what it is? Let's just bring on the Pros...
 
So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money. Guess the OP was right anything is amazing and satisfactory to some of you on this forum,....

This laptop is about fanless design. That means Core M. Core M means DDR3 RAM. If you want a more powerful computer, one that needs a fan, wait until WWDC where they will likely update their MBP lineup.
 
So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money. Guess the OP was right anything is amazing and satisfactory to some of you on this forum,....


By that logic the company should give stock away below market value, whatever is best for the consumer right? The MacBook isn't supposed to be a powerhouse, it's supposed to be the best everyday notebook and, if you want to run OS X, it is.
 
It has nothing to o with being stingy. THere's no room for it. Wait 9 months, and if Apple really does remove the 3.5mm jack on the iPhone 7, they will most likely replace it on the rMB with a Lightning 2 port. That is the only realistic possibility which will at least meet your demand halfway.

Why? Sell Lightning to 3.5mm adapter and sell 3.5mm to Lightning adapters. In both cases, since one end is proprietary, Apple gets licensing fees. Maybe Apple can work this so that it's a one-way thing so that one such adapter cannot cover both issues? Lightning will be a very profitable change.

People buy Lightning-terminated headphones. That headphone maker had to pay Apple some licensing to terminate with that jack.

Then those people need to hook their headphones to anything else. So they buy a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter. Again, Apple gets licensing fee for the adapter.

People buy/bring their 3.5mm terminated headphones. They need a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter to use them with their iDevices. Again, Apple gets a licensing fee for the adapter.

Money, money, money, money. Why change that? "We" will just pay and spin why whatever we have to put up with to make this change work makes perfect sense... even beat down our fellow consumers who share unhappiness at having to carry ANOTHER adapter or griping about the premium for new headphones that terminate with Lightning.

Then in just about 2 more generations of iDevices, the Lightning port will be too thick to support "thinner". Enter Lightning 2 and we can do it all again.

It all makes perfect $en$e to me.
 
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So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money.

Given that every one of those things you mention are a direct result of the fundamental design goal of this laptop, yes, I have no problem with those decisions. I have been saying this for a freaking year but this computer IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE POWERFUL. It's designed to be thin, light, compact, portable. Choose from those. That's the PRIMARY design intent. The 480p camera is a direct result of this choice (minimize overall volume). The DDR3 memory is a direct result of this choice (minimize power consumption). The Core M processor is a direct result of this choice (minimize overall volume, minimize power consumption).

I can't make it any clearer. This laptop has a completely different design intent than any other laptop on the market at the moment. I own a LOT of high end equipment, and have a lot more of it come across my desk. I think the retina Macbook, despite its compromises, is the best laptop I've ever come across. But I don't expect to tow my full-sized camper with my Miata. I can appreciate a Miata for what it is designed to be. And I don't get bent out of shape when someone expresses a preference for a Miata over a Camry or an F150 (or vice-versa).
 
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So you are telling me that apple giving you a laptop with a 480p webcam, DDR3 memory,and a slow m processor is something to be satisfied about. I am thinking about the consumer and not the investor, if you thought about the consumer, you would know that consumers expect more for their money. Guess the OP was right anything is amazing and satisfactory to some of you on this forum,....

So you think the Macbook air is two times faster or more and is better?

If you don't like this computer go with Macbook pro or Macbook air than?
 
Given that every one of those things you mention are a direct result of the fundamental design goal of this laptop, yes, I have no problem with those decisions. [Snipped]
As an old teacher of mine used to say: "explaining these concepts is like pushing a tonne of blancmange up a hill!" :D
Eventually all Apple arguments circle back to money. It's inevitable.
Shocking for a profit-making company...
 
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Great. Someone else with a keyboard but the lack of perspective to see that if the retina Macbook had everything they say it needs, it'd be another Macbook Pro. I could make a sketch of a Macbook Pro or a Thinkpad attached to a docking station and call it 'dongle hell' as well. The difference is, with those machines, I'm forced to carry a copy of all those ports everywhere with me, even though I really only need them when docked at my desk.
 
I don't understand while at minimum they didn't upgrade the power adapter to have a second USB-C port on it. I can understand that "maybe" there isn't enough room for a second port on the MacBook itself, but having the power adapter at least be able to do pass thru would have solved many users complaints and even would be a good accessory for the previous gen.
 
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I don't understand while at minimum they didn't upgrade the power adapter to have a second USB-C port on it. I can understand that "maybe" there isn't enough room for a second port on the MacBook itself, but having the power adapter at least be able to do pass thru would have solved many users complaints and even would be a good accessory for the previous gen.
Trust me a lot of us dont understand but I'm sure someone like "Zhenya" will try to help you understand. It's the "apple way" from the looks of it. Guessing we have apple's version of the "netbook" so don't expect much. I'm still trying to test out my 480p webcam on a cheap chinese laptop....figures
 
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The hate on these machines is a little crazy.

These things, in their current state, are the original MacBook Air. They're in a sort of "testing the waters" phase. Odds are, if the this machine isn't enough for you, you were never the target. That's fine. I don't get annoyed when BMW releases a motorcycle that won't haul a trailer. I use trucks for that sort of thing.

For better or for worse this machine is still something of an experiment and it's aimed at the Starbucks crowd—the type of people that will drop $7 a day on a latte are the same people that will "overpay" for a computer. The fact that they currently come in multiple colors makes the target audience clear. (With that said, I want a space grey MBP.)

When the machine was released, Apple made it perfectly clear that it was meant to be primarily wireless in terms of connectors. It was in the keynote for crying out loud. I don't know that you're ever going to get another port. (And I don't know that it matters to the people who are actually using these machines.)

No, the machine isn't powerful. However, it's got no fans and no moving parts. That feature interests some people (me included).

Given the way my mom uses her 2010 13" MacBook Pro, this machine would be a perfect upgrade. Smaller. Lighter. Faster. MUCH improved screen. It'd be a perfect machine for my wife who is using a 2012 13" MacBook Air. Both of them basically work on their machines purely as a laptop and connect to nothing. They are not alone. Tons of people plug in next to nothing. They don't have 20 monitors. They don't have a desk full of USB devices. They don't have an old Firewire device to connect to. They don't care about ethernet because they have WiFi. (Although I have yet to meet anyone who enjoys that awful keyboard.)

I do. I have a MacBook Pro and a Thunderbolt Dock. Imagine that? Using the device designed for someone like me, a "Pro" if you will, yields better results.

The machine is a big battery, a nice screen, and a tiny logic board. What are you expecting?

What a refreshing post. And I totally agree with you. Thanks for sharing!
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A slap in the face? Really?

I mean 480p is beyond low. I would say a slap in the face sounds pretty accurate. Apple is used to low balling, but that's just...pathetic, to put it lightly.
 
I love how when you look inside this is basically a smart battery...

As are most of Apple's devices these days. Logic boards have shrunk, we ditched the bulky mechanical hard-drives and optical drives, and the industry has been focused on performance/watt so much that you can now get good performance even with passive cooling. We've reduced the components down to some solid-state chips, a screen, battery and some antennas. And it turns out, that's just fine.

This is inside of an iPad, for comparison:

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