Or, you know, instead of a thing that costs more than a Mac and weighs as much as a cinder block, you could just get a Dell XPS 15" with 32GB for much less than a mac......
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New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year
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Or, you know, instead of a thing that costs more than a Mac and weighs as much as a cinder block, you could just get a Dell XPS 15" with 32GB for much less than a mac......
Cinder blocks have courage!
If you think it's too heavy at 8.6 lbs, or then it's not for you. It's a professional VFX workstation with a non-throttled GTX-1080 running a 17" 1080p screen. It's got a non-throttled, 4-core 4.2GHz CPU, room for 64GB RAM, 2x M2, 2x SSD spaces inside, and a removable Lithium-Ion Battery. Yes, it runs Windows 10 Pro. Yes, I too would rather it run OS X. It is a professional machine for actual work: You wouldn't use a machine like this for Facebook or for shopping.
You guys want powerful graphics and 32GB or more RAM and a fast CPU/GPU in a laptop? This is what that looks like until Apple starts making workstations again.
Cinder blocks have courage!
If you think it's too heavy at 8.6 lbs, or then it's not for you. It's a professional VFX workstation with a non-throttled GTX-1080 running a 17" 1080p screen. It's got a non-throttled, 4-core 4.2GHz CPU, room for 64GB RAM, 2x M2, 2x SSD spaces inside, and a removable Lithium-Ion Battery. Yes, it runs Windows 10 Pro. Yes, I too would rather it run OS X. It is a professional machine for actual work: You wouldn't use a machine like this for Facebook or for shopping.
You guys want powerful graphics and 32GB or more RAM and a fast CPU/GPU in a laptop? This is what that looks like until Apple starts making workstations again.
I didn't actually check how much it weighed....
I didn't actually check how much it weighed....
I wonder how hard it is to yank off of a desk? Too bad MagSafe isn't a public domain power connector. But it does kind of look like a Dell or an HP enterprise laptop, yes?
Ha I don't know. HP never caught my eye and as to Dells I never looked beyond XPS line haha
Well, here we are in October ... guess who was completely wrong about this? MR and the misplaced faith they put in the not-infallable Ming-Chi Kuo.
Guess who was dead-on right about this (see two posts above)? Me.
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Guess who was dead-on right about this (see two posts above)? Me.
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Yes.
But I also know some other things:
1. Ming-Chi Kuo is not always right.
2. Apple has already announced every hardware or new software product they are bringing out for the rest of the year
3. The chip that runs the MBP *cannot support* more than 16GB of LPDDR RAM.
4. The newest Intel chip for this range (Coffee Lake) doesn't support more than 16GB of RAM either
5. The MBPs were just refreshed in June.
So, do you have any information that contradicts the facts above, or are you just flapping your lips meaninglessly?
[doublepost=1515152390][/doublepost]Looks like this 32Gb MacBook Pro was never released.
Apple will release updated Mac notebooks with Intel's next-generation Kaby Lake processors later this year, according to the latest research note from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
Kuo said new 12-inch MacBook models with Kaby Lake processors will enter mass production in the early second quarter, which starts in March, and noted a 16GB of RAM option could be added--presumably as a high-end or built-to-order configuration. The two current 12-inch MacBook configurations include 8GB of RAM.
Likewise, Kuo said new 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro models with Kaby Lake processors will start mass production in the early third quarter, which starts in July. The research note did not specify how much RAM these models will have, but 16GB could remain the limit due to the restrictions of current memory designs.
Interestingly, Kuo also mentions a "15-inch MacBook" that will include 32GB of RAM and enter mass production in the early fourth quarter, which starts in September. He said this model will be "the most significantly redesigned product this year," and he believes it will adopt desktop-class RAM to satisfy high-end users.
Given the high-end specifications, it is likely that this 15-inch MacBook would be part of the MacBook Pro lineup, but Kuo did not specify. Beyond faster processors and increased memory, Kuo said most other specifications and the design of all of the notebooks will be similar to equivalent models released in 2016.
Kuo believes the new Kaby Lake notebooks will be power efficient, which may positively affect shipments. He estimates that Mac notebook shipments will resume year-over-year growth at about 10% on the strength of the new models, while shipments will be quicker as production delays affecting 2016 models are resolved.
Kuo also expects Apple to discount the 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys this year as that model gradually replaces the 13-inch MacBook Air in Apple's notebook lineup.
While no release dates were mentioned, Kuo previously said he expects new MacBook Pro models with 32GB of RAM to launch in the second half of 2017.
Article Link: New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year
Well done Ming-Chi Kuo. We'll never take you seriously again.
So with the 2017 iMac Pro released, all that remains is to fit a comparable feature set into a MacBook Pro, as several PC manufacturers have already done in the mobile workstation segment. In the meantime, however, I’ve gone to the dark side for the specs. And yet there are tasks I still prefer on my old 2012 Retina MBP!
Kinda wish somebody could develop machines that had the best of both worlds.
Ah, life.
Kinda wish somebody could develop machines that had the best of both worlds.
Ah, life.
Maybe Apple is waiting until they release the $5000 Macbook Pro² until they give us 32GB. The "really, really" "pro" model.
I am so glad I bought a discounted 2015 model.
None of these manufacturers use LPDDR4 so you pay the price on the battery life side. If portability is secondary then the Dell Precision 7720 can take up to 64GB and a Xeon CPU.
It looks like a tank, the battery life is about 25 seconds but it's powerful.
Apple's decision to use LPDDR4 in the laptops allegedly built for performance was, plainly put, stupid. And it appears to have been driven by the decision to shrink the case, and, thus, the battery.
God help the Mac Pro.
It is a pyramid of "design choices" that forced Apple themselves away from having performance: All TB3/USB-C thus not enough power for higher TDP; thinner chassis thus not enough battery; not enough TDP and amount of battery thus must use LPDDR to get satisfactory charge life. The TDP cao also limits what kind of GPU can be used, by the way.
The fact that they sell these machines is of no issue, people buy these and they are happy. The issue is when they slap the "Pro" moniker onto it.
Apple can use regular DDR4 in the 15 inch model, look at the XPS 15 with 4K and 32GB of RAM, it's still managing...at least offer it as an option!
I understand the way Apple works and they want everything to be perfect, but with intel pushing Canonlake to late 2018 it's too much to wait!
Just FYI, it is unlikely there will be a 45W Cannon Lake part - the speculation is that Intel will only make smaller chips for ultraportables and embedded systems with the new 10nm process, as smaller chips will increase the overall successful chip yield.
So the expectation that the next 'new' part for the MBP line would be the new Ice Lake microarchitecture chips/10nm+ process expected late 2018/early 2019.
Since the big power difference between LPDDR3 and DDR4 (intel doesn't support LPDDR4) is in idle state, Apple could design a system where a T2-style chip was responsible for more of the background and sleep tasks as well as the networking stack, and the intel portion of the system hibernates rather than keeping power on to the RAM
Well... no delays happen. It is something to expect this year, it’s unlikely to be delayed any further.
I also bought a discounted 2015.
HOw bad is the Macbook Pro that many of us, ended up buying an older model??
Not sure exactly how FCPX uses RAM or what's loaded into it while editing, but I've had 50-100gigs of 4K video in my browser and a ton of efx/layers in the timeline and yeah, still didn't hit the 16gb.
I wouldn't say it's bad, just a bad value, and eliminating magsafe is unforgivable.
Can't wait to see the cost of this new MBP, gosh I hope Im sitting down.
Guess those young up-coming devs and producers will have to hacintosh or turn to PC for some love
Guess those young up-coming devs and producers will have to hacintosh or turn to PC for some love
"have to" or maybe just on principle. Anyone who isn't an AAPL stockholder themselves should question whether these new machines are worth purchasing at all. We use Mac because of Mac OS, and that's about the only reason since Apple gave up on having the best hardware.
FCPX is the only product I'm unequivocally happy about from Apple these days. Apple can't survive forever by merely not being as bad as Windows.
Yeah if I didn't start with FCPX I'd consider changing. Even tho I hate Windows, dislike the look and feel of most Windows based laptops, I'd almost consider it. May even try Davinci Resolve soon and play with the idea even more, but I have high hopes for this years model, that intel/amd combo sounds interesting.
It really is a shame. The MacBook has become full of gimmicks that are very expensive. I don't think anybody asked for the new keyboard and trackpad or the 4 Thunderbolt ports idea. I literally can't think of one person who wanted it.
It's not that they're necessarily bad things to have, but they just drive the price of the product up so much it's not even funny.
It's great to be brave and try out new technologies, but keep the price in mind is my current advice to Apple. Especially because some of that cost could have gone to faster hardware.
I think, honestly, the iMac is the only sane Mac left. It's nothing fancy other than a ridiculously fast and powerful computer with a great selection of ports, and it's beautiful as nothing else. THAT is the Apple I knew and loved. I have the same feelings towards iMac Pro. Great computer! Not for me, but great! I want the cheesegrater back or something similar to it, but don't make it stupidly expensive and don't make it break all compatibility standards. If I can have a Mac Pro and slide over my top of the line GPU's, or even better get new GPU's and be able to upgrade them as I go, then I'm gonna be right in front of the queue.