Might be because you can't return opened items with B&H, not sure about Amazon.
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New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year
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They are going FULL AMD ATI(GRAPHICS) =>(Might even buy the company in the future to create their own CPU and split from intel).
Intuit Quickbooks stillllllllllll doesn’t give Cross-Platform access to mac & PC versions of Quickbooks accounting software. I found out the hard way I could not use the mac version or Quickbooks so I was forced to use Parallels software to run Quickbooks PC version on my mac. That is why I need 32GB. From my experiences on my own iMacs 16GB was not enough to run in virtual mode without lagging / pausing / spinning. However.. Once I upgraded from 16 GB to 32GB splitting hard-drive 16 / 16 right down the middle.. Viola! My iMac computers in virtual mode (Parallels) using Quickbooks have performed perfectly for well over 6 years with this concept of having 32GB. Am I wrong?
You can run from BootCamp more efficiently than in Parallels.
You could also try running from something like WineBottler, which doesn't load the whole windows system, just necessary subsystems.
Also, 4GB RAM should be enough for barebones windows installation and a program like Quickbooks.
Yes, you're wrong. Modern Macs use vastly faster SSDs ( double the speed of conventional SSDs, up to *20x* faster than hard drives) and manage RAM far more efficiently. The reason you needed 32GB wasn't because of Quickbooks, it was because Windows was a RAM hog. Much less the case now.
Do your iMacs have hard drives or SSDs? I run Quicken 2016 with no issues on my 12" MacBook with 8GB in Parallels Desktop.
Given the age and specs of your system and assuming a certain age for its software, no you're not wrong.
I "could" say you're wrong, but that would involve throwing your entire environment out the window and comparing it to something that you can go out and buy right now. But, then I'd be wrong for doing so. Personally, I'd much rather that the both of us be right.
Are you on Sierra? I'm wondering if there's an issue with Sierra because I'm having some really serious memory pressure issues on my fully loaded 2016 MBP that I wasn't having on my 2012 Unibody (which I kept on El Capitan). Both machines have a 2TB SSD, but the one in the 2012 is obviously an aftermarket SSD (Samsung 850 EVO).
With several memory demanding programs open at the same time, my 2012 Unibody on El Capitan would handle it like a champ. My shiny new touchbar MBP on Sierra, cries and gives up. I have to remember to close programs to make sure I have enough memory to keep everything running smoothly. I never see memory pressure in Activity Monitor go into the red, but the swap size does grow rapidly when the slowdowns happen.
So, I'm thinking that maybe it's a kink in Sierra. It was even worse a few months ago and it got a lot better with one of the recent releases, but I still run into memory slowdowns. It could very well be a combination of Sierra and one or two programs interacting with Sierra in ways it didn't do with El Capitan.
This has me going, "yaaaarrgghhh! I really need 32GB" and then I turn around and remember, "but I used to be fine on 16GB."
I hope this gets fixed. 32GB still would be nice so that even if there are some software issues, I can keep on working.
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Boot Camp is NOT efficient. Having to reboot into another OS is pretty much the opposite of efficient if you're trying to get work done. It's fine for games, but completely useless for dealing with one app during the workday.
QuackBooks is not compatible with Wine (It's classified as "Garbage" for every release after 2008: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=120).
QuackBooks for Mac is actually a much better program than the Windoze version, but it's missing some features, and at this point it's unclear if Intuit is still going to be supporting it long term. And if you're having to interact with QB users on Windoze on a regular basis, it's a pain to move your files between versions, since they couldn't even be bothered using a common file format.
And yeah, 4GB is barely functional for any OS, including current Windoze. It's much more stable and faster with at least 8GB, and with a 16GB Mac, that doesn't really leave enough RAM for your real software.
[doublepost=1493912757][/doublepost]Well said.
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None of my macs have had SSDs (*yet). The computer I reference is a mid 2010 iMac
Processor 2.93 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 32 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
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Bingo!
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I am not on Sierra. However I am stuck on OS X Yosemite. I am scared to upgrade with all my windows/ virtual mode settings. Everything is still working fine. Most upgrades of OS created more problems than they solved. Until forced, I don't need the pain.
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Okay got it. Thank you. I do hope this is the case because I NEED the flexibility to work from a laptop.
It's efficient from a computing perspective, not productivity perspective.
Not really, no. Modern processors handle virtualization very efficiently. And you can't possibly pretend that the compute cycles used by 50 reboots a day to switch apps is anywhere close to computationally efficient.
following up on this January post ahead of 9/12/17 product announcement.
ready for a MBP Pro, wondering if any rumor updates.
seriously considering jumping ship for a mobile workstation.
anything apple would design would be more svelte than the current offerings.
looking to change "render" back from a 4-letter word.
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"Interestingly, Kuo also mentions a "15-inch MacBook" that will include 32GB of RAM and enter mass production in the early fourth quarter, which starts in September. He said this model will be "the most significantly redesigned product this year," and he believes it will adopt desktop-class RAM to satisfy high-end users." // Article Link: New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year
ready for a MBP Pro, wondering if any rumor updates.
seriously considering jumping ship for a mobile workstation.
anything apple would design would be more svelte than the current offerings.
looking to change "render" back from a 4-letter word.
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"Interestingly, Kuo also mentions a "15-inch MacBook" that will include 32GB of RAM and enter mass production in the early fourth quarter, which starts in September. He said this model will be "the most significantly redesigned product this year," and he believes it will adopt desktop-class RAM to satisfy high-end users." // Article Link: New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year
This could be announced at an October event although Apple did update Mac's at their WWDC event.
x2 would be ok.
just give me 8 cores and 32gb of RAM and I'll run to the store to buy it. Right now I'm considering moving to the trashcan, and would in a heartbeat if it had updated ports (USB TB3 ports)
