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New 2011 15" MBP - running WAYY hot?!
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Well, I got the old machine returned, and the new machine setup. It's a completely different animal! Where the last one would idle upwards of 70C, the new is between 38 and 42C. Just played L4D2 for a good 30 min, and it never broke 85. Installed the SSD, and I'm lovin' it!
For what it's worth, I've been using Hardware Monitor as well as smcfancontrol for temp monitoring in OS X and hardware monitor + lubbos fan control in win7.
Thanks for suggesting I return it. I'm really glad I did.
sorry for derailing a bit - but how did L4D2 run? was it the OS X version or Windows? I've been playing the OS X version on my 2010 15" 2.4 ghz i5 and I get around 30 fps playing on medium settings.
I can't find any of my thermal paste, so I had to order a new tube of it and won't be able to do this until Monday.
Also it seems the temps have died down a bit to 55ºC at idle after setting it to use my dedicated GPU at all times.
I prefer the true and tried Arctic Silver 5; have used it for almost every system I've built or fixed for many years and has always worked for me.
HDD, I've sold with my older MBP; RAM gave to a friend who wanted it for his iMac, and optical drive to another friend who needed a replacement.
Also it seems the temps have died down a bit to 55ºC at idle after setting it to use my dedicated GPU at all times.
I prefer the true and tried Arctic Silver 5; have used it for almost every system I've built or fixed for many years and has always worked for me.
What did you do with the parts?
HDD, I've sold with my older MBP; RAM gave to a friend who wanted it for his iMac, and optical drive to another friend who needed a replacement.
I run it on bootcamp because it works so much better than on OS X. I've played the first chapter of the hotel level, and the first chapter of the swamp one. Everything is on High, AA set at 4x MSAA and and 8x filtering. I use vsync, and it's almost always capped at 60fps via fraps. It dropped to 35 in the hotel level when the elevator opens with the fire, and a rush of zombies but that's the lowest I've recorded.
The ATI card is amazing compared to the 330m. I can also play Civ 5 at dx11 mode medium settings, tessellation, and maintain 40fps. Before I had to play it on dx9 mode, low settings and struggled to maintain 30. I've also changed my BC2 settings to high across the board, and maintain 30fps, but lower it to medium and get 45 instead. I only play at native resolution - 1440 x 900 on my 15".
Forgot to mention - I'm going to try hooking it up to my 1080p tv and see how fps compare. I'll also try playing L4D2 on OS X and see how it compares.
If anyone gets bawlsy and replaces the thermal paste, let me know how it changes things. I've been considering it, but I'm unsure if it's worth it since I've got temps in a range I'm happy with.
runs just fine here. get a little warm...but, the warmth feels nice in colorado right about now...
I haven't read thru the whole thread so forgive me if this has already been mentioned. iFixit did a teardown of the new notebooks. there was apparently a lot of thermal paste under the heat sinks. they did mention this could cause issues. anyone brave enough o open up their MBP and pop some AS5 in there?
EDIT: I should've read the thru in its entirety. Alphaod, hope the temps drop like rocks when u puts some AS5 in there.
EDIT: I should've read the thru in its entirety. Alphaod, hope the temps drop like rocks when u puts some AS5 in there.
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I have the MBP listed in the sig that I picked up yesterday. I have been encoding in handbrake for about 1.5 hours straight and it has stayed around 88 C with a fan speed of 5200 RPM. I think this is normal for the 15" but I am not sure since I have not owned a powerful MBP before? Comments?
A few individuals have done so and it seems to translate to roughly 5-10C decrease in temps. I will most likely do the same to mine so I'll update this thread as well on my findings.I haven't read thru the whole thread so forgive me if this has already been mentioned. iFixit did a teardown of the new notebooks. there was apparently a lot of thermal paste under the heat sinks. they did mention this could cause issues. anyone brave enough o open up their MBP and pop some AS5 in there?
For the individual who was interested, I played L4D2 on OS X and had to turn AA off and Filtering to Trilinear in order to keep a similar game play. Pretty close to 60 FPS constant (again, V-Sync) and it dipped down to about 28-30 at it's lowest point.
It also crashed once when playing on OS X - Hopefully it's driver related because temps were <85c
It also crashed once when playing on OS X - Hopefully it's driver related because temps were <85c
Is this normal? Just watching n ABC video and reading the forums it went to 80.
Is my 1st mac, before i had an PC tower so im not sure what tempetures are ok but this seems to hot @_@
I will be returning this tomorrow so i can buy the high res but i just want to check this.
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110226at101.png/
Is my 1st mac, before i had an PC tower so im not sure what tempetures are ok but this seems to hot @_@
I will be returning this tomorrow so i can buy the high res but i just want to check this.
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110226at101.png/
First off I have a 13" but didn't want to start a whole new thread. It has the 2.3GHz i5.
Also, I'm a lifetime Windows user who bought a MacBook for the first time so go easy on me.
My idle temps are about 40-45C which seems largely normal but even just playing a video on the system raises the temp to 75C which is higher than my Windows Sandy Bridge quad-core during stress testing, let alone just a video. Now I'm afraid to even stress test it.
I know theoretically 100C is the line when you should start to get worried but having just laid down a pretty decent chunk of change I don't want to take any chances. Do Macs just tend to run warmer due to their different cooling solution?
TIA
Also, I'm a lifetime Windows user who bought a MacBook for the first time so go easy on me.
My idle temps are about 40-45C which seems largely normal but even just playing a video on the system raises the temp to 75C which is higher than my Windows Sandy Bridge quad-core during stress testing, let alone just a video. Now I'm afraid to even stress test it.
I know theoretically 100C is the line when you should start to get worried but having just laid down a pretty decent chunk of change I don't want to take any chances. Do Macs just tend to run warmer due to their different cooling solution?
TIA
See same for me and im on quad core, when playing video it goes from 70 to 80. i just paused the video to write this and it went back to 60.
Is it flash? does it sucks that much?
If it's a flash video then it will use more CPU power than if you were viewing it under Windows, so that could be to blame. Theoretically you should not see anything over 85-90C under max stress test. My older 2006 MBP idles at roughly 47-50C and the highest I've seen it go is 75C.
So other than flash i should not see such temperatures. How can i stress test it? use every bit of energy it has
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/apple-macbook-pro 15-inch-2011.aspx
Heat
The 15-inch MacBook Pro held up well during our heat test, where we play a Hulu video at full screen for 15 minutes. The space between the G and H keys registered 90 degrees Fahrenheit, and the touchpad measured just 83 degrees. However, the back rear bottom of the notebook reached an uncomfortable 106 degrees.
Heat
The 15-inch MacBook Pro held up well during our heat test, where we play a Hulu video at full screen for 15 minutes. The space between the G and H keys registered 90 degrees Fahrenheit, and the touchpad measured just 83 degrees. However, the back rear bottom of the notebook reached an uncomfortable 106 degrees.
Okay I got my replacement thermal paste today and just put my machine back together.
First thing… this computer is now running at 40ºC at idle; much better. I'm going to stress test this machine now and see how it does. So far it seems the fans kick in at 95ºC. Temperatures right now with 8 threads running at 100% seems to have between 98ºC to 95ºC.
Unfortunately I did noticed something that was quite a bad design; there is about a .5mm (just eyeballing it) gap between the heatsink and chip for both the Thunderbolt and Southbridge chips. When I removed the heatsink and reapplied my usual thin film, there was still a large gap between the heatsink and chip; I had to use over 5x more than the normal film thickness to cover this gap; that's no good. Fortunately this gap is not between the CPU and GPU and their respective heatsinks; a super thin film was sufficient.
First thing… this computer is now running at 40ºC at idle; much better. I'm going to stress test this machine now and see how it does. So far it seems the fans kick in at 95ºC. Temperatures right now with 8 threads running at 100% seems to have between 98ºC to 95ºC.
Unfortunately I did noticed something that was quite a bad design; there is about a .5mm (just eyeballing it) gap between the heatsink and chip for both the Thunderbolt and Southbridge chips. When I removed the heatsink and reapplied my usual thin film, there was still a large gap between the heatsink and chip; I had to use over 5x more than the normal film thickness to cover this gap; that's no good. Fortunately this gap is not between the CPU and GPU and their respective heatsinks; a super thin film was sufficient.
I run my Core i7, previous generation MBP at 100% CPU and 100% GPU 24/7. Temperatures always at mid 90s C without any problems.
You guys stress about too much things.
You guys stress about too much things.
Why does it run at 100% 24/7?
And what are your temps browing the web, listening to music, etc..? I have a 15" MBP and it feels way to me, coming from a PC. The CPU is around 48 C just browing the web
It does idle around 40 C. Why do simple programs make the temp rise so quickly?
Why does it run at 100% 24/7?
I have a 15" MBP and it feels way to me, coming from a PC. The CPU is around 48 C just browing the web
I run BOINC, which uses the 4 cores of my CPU and the GPU (Cuda) for research purposes.
My fans rarely reach 6000 rpm unless I have the system on my bed. Normally its at a barely noticeable 3500 rpm (lowest is 2000rpm)
If I have just regular items running, without stressing the system, it idles ~35 deg C, browsing/itunes @ 45-50 deg C
Mine maxed out at 90C when gaming and doing handbrake etc.. max fans wouldn't let it go above 90C but yeah.. I was thinking it's normal. i7 13"