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Don't really need 2GB of ram, 1GB is more than enough IMO, I have never had any problems with my iPhone 6
2GB of ram is essential if this phone is going to have any longevity. 1GB of ram is simply not enough in 2016 and it wasn't enough in 2014 or even 2013. The constant tab reloads on the 6 are testament to this. The 6 (like the 3G and iPad 1) will age poorly as a result.
 
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I don't believe it. I don't believe they will ever sell any iPhone at $225 (full retail). That's playing in the low end of the market, which they've never done in any product category. I also doubt the new iPhone pricing. Well, maybe a 16GB for $500.
Wasn't the iPhone 5c launched at $349 off-contract?
 
I don't really see potential for this phone, premium pricing with tiny screen. Hope at least that the design will be something spectacular.
At least 50% of iPhone users prefer 4" or less screen; I'm definitely going back from 6s to this SE 4" phone

An ideal phone would be bezeless 4" (maybe even 4,4 or 4,7") phone just simply some kind of glass/acrylic looking square edges phone (as you see in scify movies) just fits nicely in pocket and can use with ease with on hand
 
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I don't really see potential for this phone, premium pricing with tiny screen. Hope at least that the design will be something spectacular.

Again with the "tiny screen" argument? I"m currently on a 3.5" screen, iPhone 4, and the screen size is perfectly okay for my needs. The only challenges that I'm having are degraded performance from apps that no longer target this device, and likewise for app interfaces that primarily target larger screens. That's not a fault of the phone, but the apps. I'm glad to see Apple releasing a new 4" phone, as it will force developers to spend more time optimizing their apps for that screen size instead of the larger screens in the 6 lineup.
 
My mother was given a 5s as a gift. It's still in the box. Would selling it now and buying it after the pricedrop be worth it? Or is that too risky?
 
At least 50% of iPhone users prefer 4" or less screen; I'm definitely going back from 6s to this SE 4" phone

An ideal phone would be bezeless 4" (maybe even 4,4 or 4,7") phone just simply some kind of glass/acrylic looking square edges phone (as you see in scify movies) just fits nicely in pocket and can use with ease with on hand
Exactly. People who like normally sized phones have nothing against bigger screens. A bezel-less iPhone with a 4.7" screen wouldn't be that much bigger than an iPhone 5.
 
There are no "molds". Each phone is shaped out of a block of aluminum. So there are no savings at all, just telling the machines which different bits to remove from one design to the next. And it's all the same to the machine, chamfered edges being no more difficult to produce than curved ones. More importantly, the older "innards" can often cost as much or more than the new ones since they are in less demand.



Except Apple isn't likely interested in selling a new phone without Pay which gurantees a potential customer will not use it. Pay is at a turning point this year and many analyists are expecting a big year for it. That won't happen if half of the activated iPhones can't use it.
Agree that most if not all iPhones moving forward will contain Apple Pay. What remains to be seen is if Apple Pays takes off like some analysts are predicting. (And had already predicted...) One of the reasons Apple's stock has taken a hit is due to Apple Pay failing in the U.S. Maybe it will have more success in other parts of the world? Time will tell.
 
Hmm. The best part about this rumor is that the 5s will be so cheap

Indeed. Halving the price of the 5S would be a massive deal. I'd buy them for my kids (which I'm not going to do with a 6 or even 5se). I suspect a ton of people would.
 
Exactly. People who like normally sized phones have nothing against bigger screens. A bezel-less iPhone with a 4.7" screen wouldn't be that much bigger than an iPhone 5.

Not entirely true. I can't reach a 4.7" screen edge to edge. It doesn't matter the if it was in a 5s body, it would still be too large. For many it is about the 4" screen.
 
2GB of ram is essential if this phone is going to have any longevity. 1GB of ram is simply not enough in 2016 and it wasn't enough in 2014 or even 2013. The constant tab reloads on the 6 are testament to this. The 6 (like the 3G and iPad 1) will age poorly as a result.

But now you pay a monthly fee to own your iPhone, with no interest penalty. And after 1 year, you can upgrade to the very latest model, presumably keeping your monthly payments the same.

It's really hard to imagine the customer who now understanding the true cost of their phone, who previously paid for their phones monthly under a two year contract, year after year, not wanting to participate in such a plan. Who would own a phone anymore when there's an interest free option that brings you the latest and greatest hardware every year with no penalties whatsoever?

1GB RAM is going to be more than enough to get someone through another year, if not two, with no problems. I'm using a 5s currently, and except for Pay and occasionally speed, 1GB is more than enough.

But since customers can upgrade next year without any penalty, if anyone finds 1GB or 16GB limiting, they can easily correct it within a year. In fact they can upgrade after 6 months as long as they pay off the balance of the phone first, which then applies as a trade in value against the new phone. Whatever fancy accounting allows Apple and the carriers to offer such a 0% financing plan, must also take into consideration the cost of putting more RAM and more storage into these models, and how the cost impacts the overall business model. So frankly, I just don't see the need to criticize Apple's decisions.

I do agree that a first time iPhone customer might be frustrated by getting a 16GB phone, and that could potentially sour them on the Apple experience, I have to imagine the benefits of iOS and the Apple ecosystem will offset the frustration. And even then Apple offers a pretty good solution for the frustrated customer.
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At least 50% of iPhone users prefer 4" or less screen;

I would really like to see a link to this data ...
 
But now you pay a monthly fee to own your iPhone, with no interest penalty. And after 1 year, you can upgrade to the very latest model, presumably keeping your monthly payments the same.

It's really hard to imagine the customer who now understanding the true cost of their phone, who previously paid for their phones monthly under a two year contract, year after year, not wanting to participate in such a plan. Who would own a phone anymore when there's an interest free option that brings you the latest and greatest hardware every year with no penalties whatsoever?

1GB RAM is going to be more than enough to get someone through another year, if not two, with no problems. I'm using a 5s currently, and except for Pay and occasionally speed, 1GB is more than enough.

But since customers can upgrade next year without any penalty, if anyone finds 1GB or 16GB limiting, they can easily correct it within a year. In fact they can upgrade after 6 months as long as they pay off the balance of the phone first, which then applies as a trade in value against the new phone. Whatever fancy accounting allows Apple and the carriers to offer such a 0% financing plan, must also take into consideration the cost of putting more RAM and more storage into these models, and how the cost impacts the overall business model. So frankly, I just don't see the need to criticize Apple's decisions.

I do agree that a first time iPhone customer might be frustrated by getting a 16GB phone, and that could potentially sour them on the Apple experience, I have to imagine the benefits of iOS and the Apple ecosystem will offset the frustration. And even then Apple offers a pretty good solution for the frustrated customer.
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I would really like to see a link to this data ...

Only one reason why Apple used 1GB of RAM and a base storage of 16 GB. I'll give you three guesses and the last two don't count.
 
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But now you pay a monthly fee to own your iPhone, with no interest penalty. And after 1 year, you can upgrade to the very latest model, presumably keeping your monthly payments the same.

It's really hard to imagine the customer who now understanding the true cost of their phone, who previously paid for their phones monthly under a two year contract, year after year, not wanting to participate in such a plan. Who would own a phone anymore when there's an interest free option that brings you the latest and greatest hardware every year with no penalties whatsoever?

1GB RAM is going to be more than enough to get someone through another year, if not two, with no problems. I'm using a 5s currently, and except for Pay and occasionally speed, 1GB is more than enough.

But since customers can upgrade next year without any penalty, if anyone finds 1GB or 16GB limiting, they can easily correct it within a year. In fact they can upgrade after 6 months as long as they pay off the balance of the phone first, which then applies as a trade in value against the new phone. Whatever fancy accounting allows Apple and the carriers to offer such a 0% financing plan, must also take into consideration the cost of putting more RAM and more storage into these models, and how the cost impacts the overall business model. So frankly, I just don't see the need to criticize Apple's decisions.

I do agree that a first time iPhone customer might be frustrated by getting a 16GB phone, and that could potentially sour them on the Apple experience, I have to imagine the benefits of iOS and the Apple ecosystem will offset the frustration. And even then Apple offers a pretty good solution for the frustrated customer.
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I would really like to see a link to this data ...
there is no link just simple calculation form how many (estimated) people would like to go back from 6 versions of iPhone back to 5se (or se) and percentages of iPhone users who still use 3.5, and 4" phone (4, 5 and 5s) comes to way above 50%
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Really? Where did you come up with that nugget of information--care to share a source?
this is from Apple itself showing us percentages of iPhone users using 3.5, and 4" (4, 5 and 5se) phones who did not upgrade to 4.7 or 5.5" phones resulting to way over 50% plus adding to (such as me) those who would like to 'downgrade' from 4.7 or 5.5 phone back to 4'' phone and could be more than 60-70%...
 
there is no link just simple calculation form how many (estimated) people would like to go back from 6 versions of iPhone back to 5se (or se) and percentages of iPhone users who still use 3.5, and 4" phone (4, 5 and 5s) comes to way above 50%

How do you estimate how many people would like to do that? Just make up a number to support your argument?
 
maybe there will be 5s price cut to get rid of the units and simultaneously get potential users for iOS system thus why not reducing the price for the rest of 5s units available
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How do you estimate how many people would like to do that? Just make up a number to support your argument?
thats why I wrote estimated I;m sure at least 10%; example at work in my hospital 8/10 coworkers are sick of large screen phone as it is not user friendly so it is estimated but even without those that will downgrade the numbers still hit 50% of potential upgraders from 3.5 and 4" phone users (4;5; and 5s)
 
maybe there will be 5s price cut to get rid of the units and simultaneously get potential users for iOS system thus why not reducing the price for the rest of 5s units available
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thats why I wrote estimated I;m sure at least 10%; example at work in my hospital 8/10 coworkers are sick of large screen phone as it is not user friendly so it is estimated but even without those that will downgrade the numbers still hit 50% of potential upgraders from 3.5 and 4" phone users (4;5; and 5s)

That's odd, I asked 10 coworkers the same question and only 1 wanted a smaller screen, so I estimate it's way less than 50%.
 
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