Risky I think, seems a bit unlikely to me.. an iPhone for only $25 more than an iPod touch? That device doesn't even have Touch ID. Maybe in certain markets though; or at a slightly higher price.
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They would also buy it and they wouldn't need more if they were 32gb and 2gb ram but... Continue the sentence.
haha its 50% or moe without those that want to downgrade; just check Apples numbers as they would know best ho many % uses still 3.5 and 4" and add to that a certain % of iPhone users who bought 6+ and 6s because it was new iPhone not because they liked larger screen (initially they may but after a while realize f this its almost a brick) ...all in all very happy of those of us who want a more normal user friendly phone not need a mans purse or book bag to carry these bricks currently in style or whatever
Who's selling 2012 MacBooks for $1400?
I get your point. They are pricey especially with the state of the Cdn dollar, but you can get a refurbished 2015 model for C$1300.
Unlike Apple I guess, I don't see everything as a way to maximize profit. Every now and then it would be great if they actually saw their customers as something more than a dollar sign.
Exactly. I just don't understand this idea where people think Apple shouldn't make a smaller phone or that somehow it's just technological progress to have bigger phones/screens. Is there a need for bigger phones? Sure. Is that for everyone? Of course not. It used to be (and still is) generally considered to be more technologically advanced to fit more tech into smaller packages (while even that can go too far). But there is absolutely a use-case for a smaller phone! Why are people arguing against it???
I think the same is the case between iOS and Android... in fact, IMO, the situations are nearly identical in terms of user experience, more refined vs glitchy, etc. And, the whole video editing vs gaming thing is a typical, only slightly true, stereotype. There are actually a LOT of other meaningful differences.
Well, Apple only has to maximize the spec side as much as needed. It's kind of silly of them to put in 2 GB just because some other whole platform does (unless you're just playing spec wars for the naive shopper). At the same time, because of Apple's poor software quality in the last couple of releases, I'd agree that they've underspec'd the RAM. (For example, my iPad 2 was wonderful up until iOS 8. Kind of bricked in usability overnight.)
*GET BY* I shouldn't have to be finding ways to 'get by' with a premium product just so Apple can up-sell. And, as someone who has an actual interest in Apple's future, they are hurting the brand long-term to make a few extra bucks this quarter. That's stupid leadership.
I'm not sure on this one. Apple Pay is kind of a novelty in the US at this point, because the US is *SO* far behind with the store hardware. On the other hand, the chip/tap type stuff is pretty old-hat in the rest of the world.
The problem, as one of my friends put it, is if I still have to have a wallet with me, what's the point? And, neither of us see an iPhone completely replacing a wallet any time soon. Maybe one day, and Apple is just way ahead of the curve.
Except, what happens when iOS 10 or 11 come out? Is half-price worth a shorter longevity? Maybe.
Yes, I'll have to look into that more. I don't think it's available in Canada yet, or I'd be interested in that deal. Yes, that might change how I buy hardware. Currently, it has to last some reasonable X amount of time.
That was everyone on a smaller size, for whatever reason. While I doubt it would be 50%, I also don't think it's the 10% some polls have indicated. If I had to venture an educated guess, I'd say it might be about 30%, with about 60% being 4.7" and 10% being 5.5".
Amen!!! But, then Apple and the carriers wouldn't have that sweet $100 up-sell opportunity, as most people *would* be OK on 32GB. 16GB is that tight limitation right now that makes the *informed* customer go... I'd better spend that extra $100. While, the unformed consumer has to 'get by.' I've talked to many of them, so I know. They regret it post-sale, which reflects poorly on Apple's reputation.
a.k.a. stupid-short-term-marketing-and-bean-counter-think
Yep, and when you do that, the dollars follow too. That's how Apple got to where they currently are. It's sad to see they've so quickly forgotten.
I don't pay any monthly fee for my iPhone, and I never want to do so. Plenty of people including myself buy outright and try to get many years out of their iPhones. I'm not interested in plans, and I find the idea of a new phone every year wasteful and environmentally damaging.
iPhones should be made to last, not for "a year or two". If you think its reasonable to put 1GB of ram into a 2016 Phone you clearly don't give a damn about user experience or anything other than Apple's profit margins. The cost for apple between 1GB and 2GB would not be great and Apple can swallow that cost.
1GB of ram as I've already said is extremely limiting, it should have disappeared with the 5S. Some of us like keeping tabs and multiple Applications open. 1GB was nice in 2012 and maybe 2013, but 2GB of ram should be the minimum now. I want my next phone to last a long time.
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It always amazes me when people say 'but some people don't use 16GB'.
Some people don't even use 8GB. Does that mean Apple should be producing an 8GB base model on their iPhone, and charge $100 to upgrade to 16GB? No way.
Back in 2010, do you want to guess what the capacity was on the base model iPad? It was 16GB. Want to guess what it is today? 16GB.
The rest of the industry moved to a 32GB base model a long time ago. Apple has been stuck on 16GB for FIVE YEARS. Is there a technical reason for this? Has NAND flash technology somehow frozen? No. NAND flash prices have nosedived over the past few years, dramatically. NAND flash is so cheap now that it would cost Apple PENNIES (literally, pennies) to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB.
The 16GB iPhone model is a complete joke. If your phone has a 4K camera, 16GB of storage is simply laughable. There is absolutely no freaking excuse for Apple to be producing a 16GB phone in the year 2016, NONE. It's absolutely infuriating to see what was once such an amazing company turn into a typical Wall Street corporation led by mindless MBA school drones, pinching pennies in every way and screwing everyone over. Apple will pay for this. With declining iPhone growth, a 16GB iPhone will simply cause them to slow down even more.
Yet the Apple Faithful will continue to flock in droves to get their new iDevice, even if it is the absolute worst possible ripoff phone on the market. It's pretty sad, actually. I've owned iPhones since the very first one back in 2007, and I've never seen something so ridiculous and pathetic coming from Apple. I'm betting that not only will iPhone growth continue to slow this year, it will actually shrink if they produce another ripoff 16GB model.
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But But But, some people on Macrumours won't be able to sleep if Apple's profit margins are slightly down
LOL, I'm on the beta and apparently my content blocker messed up my post somehow. I kept having that issue until I reloaded the page without the content blocker. Whoops!
But But But, some people on Macrumours won't be able to sleep if Apple's profit margins are slightly down
For sure!
On the other hand, some people might actually care about the future of Apple or might actually be, *gasp* investors, who care about more than quarterly numbers.
16 GB base models, no doubt, increase revenues in the short term, as they damage the company long-term. And, that Apple used to not be like this is the reason they are on top and not like so many other 'come and gone' tech companies out there. It's painful for me, as a 30-year-Apple-evangelist, to watch Apple *finally* succeed and then blow it. But, as a good friend often says, big companies = stupid. I guess it's nearly inevitable.
That's your opinion. Some people do care about the future of apple and are investors (gasp) and believe it to be red and rosy in spite of the hyperbole strewn over the inter-webs.
If you are a 30 year evangelist who believe their "beloved" company is going downhill; get out now.
Simply Unbelievable if true. The greed is palatable. 
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Actually, you'll have missed the boat. 6-10m ago would have been the time. However, your advice to get out now is prudent.
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Actually, you'll have missed the boat. 6-10m ago would have been the time. However, your advice to get out now is prudent.
Android goes for more than just specs. Dual speakers, water resistance, quick charge, wireless charging, etc are features that would serve the iPhone very well.
Well, hopefully if you're 'investing' in Apple, you're actually paying attention to the products, user-experience, changes in how Apple is running the business, etc. and not just 'playing the markets.' And, if you've been paying attention for long, you'll recognize the difference. I guess we can debate about whether it's a change for the positive or not. I say not. BTW, I was never in (though I recommended buying AAPL back in the mid-90s, not so much anymore, though you're probably fine for a few years yet.)
Yes, but they run Android.** Water resistance might be nice, but isn't that already kind of in place (at least rumored for the 7). afaik, there are trade-offs with quick-charge. Wireless charging is irrelevant. Dual speakers, seriously? (You're not one of those annoying people who play music on the train through your phone, right?)
** My point being that I've nearly always been able to build up a PC with better specs than the Macs I've purchased. And, I have the skills to do so (did it for years for work). But, I run Macs because of OS X, not some specs. I should probably mess with Android again one of these days, but every time I have, it pretty much sucks.
Pretty sure the S7 and Note 5 don't have dual speakers. The HTC One line, Nexus 6P, etc have front facing speakers. Water resistance is a trademark of the Xperia Z line. Quick charge became mainstream w/ Qualcomm playing a big role. Wireless charging isn't due to Samsung. Hell, a lot of Apple fans don't even realize live photos came from Nokia.
The megapixel race on camera has reached the point of absurdity. Nobody needs more than an 8 megapixel camera -- what they need is better low light performance, better capture speed, and so on. But those can't be quantified so easily, so I guess we'll get more useless additional pixels.
Well, hopefully if you're 'investing' in Apple, you're actually paying attention to the products, user-experience, changes in how Apple is running the business, etc. and not just 'playing the markets.' And, if you've been paying attention for long, you'll recognize the difference. I guess we can debate about whether it's a change for the positive or not. I say not. BTW, I was never in (though I recommended buying AAPL back in the mid-90s, not so much anymore, though you're probably fine for a few years yet.)
Yes, but they run Android. Water resistance might be nice, but isn't that already kind of in place (at least rumored for the 7). afaik, there are trade-offs with quick-charge. Wireless charging is irrelevant. Dual speakers, seriously? (You're not one of those annoying people who play music on the train through your phone, right?)
So what's wrong with running Android? It can run Tizen for all I care and my point remains the same, stagnant hardware is not good. Apple's odd upgrading cycle is why people are starting to say "Apple Tax" exists or "Apple lags in hardware." Dual speakers are great for me when I am blasting music in my car (when I didn't have an aux cable or bluetooth) or when I am in my room. Wait till Apple introduces wireless charging and people will sing a different tune. Same thing happened with the Galaxy Note first gen. Then Apple released the 6 Plus.
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You can be highly successful w/ 12 MP. Look at the S7/S7 Edge camera. It's better than the 16 MP camera that Samsung had last year, which won Dxomark's best smartphone camera of 2015. Apple needs to put OIS in their entry level models too.
hi
here is what i think:
1 iPhone se will be released in India and China and SE Asia only. not released in the USA/Japan/Western Europe
2 since it won't apparently have 3D touch it is purposely being crippled
3 there will be a 7c / 7se (4" model) launched around March 2017, but that model will finally catch up to all of the features that the 7/7+ models have that will be launched at the normal iPhone launch time in fall 2016.
here is what i think:
1 iPhone se will be released in India and China and SE Asia only. not released in the USA/Japan/Western Europe
2 since it won't apparently have 3D touch it is purposely being crippled
3 there will be a 7c / 7se (4" model) launched around March 2017, but that model will finally catch up to all of the features that the 7/7+ models have that will be launched at the normal iPhone launch time in fall 2016.