So you are saying the only reason to upgrade is for pencil support and none of the other improvements are important?
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New 9.7" iPad Pro to Start at $599, 32GB and 128GB Models Available
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Microsoft didn't do bad with Surface Pro's (1.6mio) compared to apple iPad Pro's (2 mio). Microsoft increased their tablet sales 29% YOY. They outsold Apple in October the month they launched the new tablet (45% vs apples 17%).
And that is with average Surface price of $844 , the average iPad price is $392.
You said it is not an iPad 3 because it had more "stuff", therefore it should cost most. Guess what, so does the iPhone, that didn't get an increase in price.
You're not paying for more "features" on the new iPad, you're paying for the declining sales, they want their bottom line on the iPads, so you're paying for three letters "P" "R" and "O".
I have a surface pro 4 and don't consider it a tablet. It's a full laptop that can transform into a tablet. Woneder
iPad Pro 12.9" has Retina display, and I can say it's looking pretty awesome. I thought 12.9" was big at start, but when I first time used split screen and understood that benefit, I thought actually 9.7" bit small for this function. Also use as a digital sketch pad, 12.9" is just right size. Between current 12.9" and new whatever 9.7", display quality and size difference, $200 difference isn't too bad. In my opinion.
The air 2 was a giant upgrade in terms of specs including the camera. No one cares about the camera, maybe 10 people. And most apps barely take advantage of the third core and graphics power. Pencil support and smart connector are NOT tangible features until you give Apple another 200-300 for accessories, the A9X would have come anyway. Apple doubled the speakers on the air 1 on top of a new design and a whole new name and kept the same price points.
Keep drinking the koolaid pal.
Again, I'm talking about the iPad. Go back and re-read my post. Perhaps on the second try you'll understand what I'm saying.
I don't care you only talk about the iPad, I am showing you that other Apple products also have leaps of new features without a price increase. Perhaps on the third try you'll understand what I'm saying.
If he wants his iPad comparison so badly: I think the step from iPad 2 to iPad 3 (Retina Display) and iPad 4 to iPad Air (much lighter and powerful) can be totally considered equal in terms of "profound" to what we expect as an update now, especially for people who don't have any intended use for an additional $100 Apple Pencil (= almost all people who are not working as an graphic/drawing artist or similar. Probably 90% or higher.)
So you are saying the only reason to upgrade is for pencil support and none of the other improvements are important?
Yeh that makes no sense. I plan to buy this and have no interest in the pencil. Better to have it if you want it than not capable.
Plus all the new hardware that wont be obsolete come next year. As the Air 2 will be 2.5 years old.
we're talking mere dollars per month extra cost; the price of 1 fast food meal. You can't just see the $100 up front cost when you plan to keep it 12-18-24 months.
Keep thinking that. While you're at it, look up your local Mac Pro fan club and join in on one of their meetings. Lots to talk about there about how the 2013 is the future of the Mac Pro and and it's not a niche one-off device.
Sales are not what Apple has you think. Frankly, I have yet to see one in public.
Nothing taxes your hardware because the apps are designed for the lowest common denominator. And will be. Developers don't want to spend the money to develop for a niche product.
Now they take a normal iPad and tack on "PRO". Once all iPads have pencil capability, what's after "PRO"? "Ultimate"?
iPad 3 says hi. Better display, more powerful SoC, more RAM, better camera, 4G. Same price as iPad 2 and didn't require $250 worth of accessories to make the new features work. It also came out 1 year after the iPad 2 and not 1.5 years like it's the case with iPad Pro 9.7".
So you're buying so you won't be obsolete? So far, everything I have tried runs on my original Mini just fine. Sounds more like an addiction to having the latest and greatest to me.
Apple added a new A9 , doubled the RAM, upgraded the camera, added better materials for construction and introduced 3D Touch to the iPhone 6S........ And insanely fast Touch ID 2 sensor. Why didn't they raise the price?!?!?!?! So what makes them have to do it with the new iPad ........oh yeah it's a new name......oh wait they changed the name over to iPad Air without price increase. And to top it off the A10 will be out in 6 months. LULZ
This is the black MacBook all over again.
This is the black MacBook all over again.
I dont remember me being the one complaining about price? Not one of the whiners.
Apple has become the king of upsell. Like you said, 32GB should be the base for the iPhone 7, at $549 with an additional $50 for each capacity increase. The iPad Pro should start at $499 with 32GB, also an additional $50 for each capacity increase, not $100. Basically, 32GB should be the base for everything at this point, with lower prices overall.
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I've always been thinking that Apple never delivered the best iPad available at the moment, saving room for continue incremental updates that seemed to be enough (and they were, for a long time). Now with sales going down this "PRO" gimmick is self-explanatory: they're delivering now the iPads that could have been a couple of generations before.
Obviously with an incremental in price.
I find all iPads should have LTE included, Apple should sustain this. But they'll never get out of their prices scheme, which is now questionable as long as sales are not flying. The good ol' times have passed, now they have to find a way to be more attractive to get back to large numbers of buyers-
P.S. While I understand that 10 out of 1000 care for iPad cameras, how is it possible that after six/seven iPad iterations there's no a flash available?
Obviously with an incremental in price.
I find all iPads should have LTE included, Apple should sustain this. But they'll never get out of their prices scheme, which is now questionable as long as sales are not flying. The good ol' times have passed, now they have to find a way to be more attractive to get back to large numbers of buyers-
P.S. While I understand that 10 out of 1000 care for iPad cameras, how is it possible that after six/seven iPad iterations there's no a flash available?
I wish people would take a stand for once and didn't go out and buy everything Apple puts out. The dollar is stronger than anything else
