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Someone must be wrong. 1GB ram? That's just insane stupid... unless they want to entice people to upgrade to the "6 mini plus" a year after release, which will have 2GB ram and force touch? Can they really be that much of a A$$wipe company?
 
Sorry but why should 1 GB be better on a 4" device than on a 4.7" device? Screen size has nothing to do with it.

It's just that it's pretty nice to be able to open apps and Safari tabs without constant refreshing.

4in iPhones have lower screen resolution compared to 4.7 so it should be snappier on the 4in model with same config.
 
People need to quit complaining about this. Sure I wish it was higher but I'm guessing over half the people with iPhone are like my parents who don't have more then 10 app on there phone. They don't put music or other media on it and still have 5+ GB free. If you want bigger get a 64 GB
I am Apple OG, all in from 1986 0n. I use a 5 and do not use data because I am always at a Mac. I love my 4" phone and have never launched Safari on it. I want great wifi range and the only apps I care about are weather and such. My point is some of us selectively assign our iPhones to be smart phones but not mini mobile Macs. The new 4"er is looking like a good update for me.
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It's a shame people will spend their hard-earned money on mediocre phones and other devices, rather than just buying the flagship device for a little bit more money.

If a 16 GB storage option is okay in the second generation iPhone, it's not okay in the ninth generation of iPhone(s). I guess if you're someone that uses a smart phone to make phone calls and text, 16 GB is okay... But those are the same people who don't know the difference between Plexiglas and regular glass.
What an odd attitude. A device of choice should reflect the "ecosystem" you are in. I am retired and have multiple devices and use the best device for my needs. Not all of us need a single point of contact device. I much prefer Messages for texting and feel sorry for people who have to reply on a phone. I also prefer my Garmin GPS and NEVER use my phone for directions; BTW my wife has a Rose Gold 6s+ ... I don't want one.
 
Performance in my mind is also what you are able to do, not just processor speed. Not being able to film more than a few minutes in 4k is crappy pefromance in my mind.

16 GB is just cumbersome if you want to fully enjoy an iPhone.

For you, yes. For my parents and some co-workers, not so much. That's why Apple offers different models. If you need more storage, then you can opt for the 128GB version.
 
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Then we have completely differing views.

Thank you for clearing that up, as you post sounded like an uncontestable judgment rather than a view. ;)
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The 6S is a much better phone than the 6. It probably isn't worth a 1-year upgrade, but if you're using anything less than a 6, you'd be foolish to not just go for the 6S - much better camera, 4K video recording, 2 vs 1 RAM, better fingerprint sensor, etc. Check out thewirecutter.com recommendation...

I agree, that the 6S is a better phone than the 6. I actually used a 6S+ for a week last year before returning it, as I could not get along with the extra size of the phone. However, I felt no need to exchange it for a 6+.

My point of view was that the OP said that the the jump from Generation 5 to 6 was a "pathetic Upgrade", based purely on the OP's misconception of the internal technical specifications required to make the iPhone 6 a good phone and a 'proper' upgrade over the model it replaced.
 
1-2-3 would be great for the device line:
- three different sized iPods
- three different sized iPhones
- three different sized iPads
- three different sized MacBooks(pro)
- three different prized watches
1-2-3 one for anyone :)
 
For you, yes. For my parents and some co-workers, not so much. That's why Apple offers different models. If you need more storage, then you can opt for the 128GB version.
Well duh. You're not saying anything useful.

With a 16 GB device, you're not able to fully make use of it. That sucks. It's that simple.
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4in iPhones have lower screen resolution compared to 4.7 so it should be snappier on the 4in model with same config.
RAM has nothing to do with that.
 
The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus were a pathetic upgrade from the iPhone 5s (basically same chip and camera with really minor improvements), so it makes total sense.

But there's absolutely no justification for Apple giving that phone 1GB RAM. That's just being blatantly greedy for what? 3 cent savings?

"Yeah, let's cripple the user experience because we save ourselves $0.03 in production. Margins, people! Margins!"

A bit bed time reading (graphs highlight the SoC in the 6 and the "basically same" one in the 5s):

CPU: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/5
GPU & NAND: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/6

And a camera comparison of the "same" camera in the 6 and 5s:

http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland

(I hope you just forgot the sarcasm tag in your post).
 
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Its a greedy money making machine that the masses haven't figured out they don't care about the consumer. Hypocrites running the company now playing the masses for fools. Good for them for getting away with it for so long, but all bubbles burst when they get too high.
Yes indeed!

The real hit will occur if the economy tanks as an increasing number are predicting. If that happens Apple is in serious jeopardy. Massive cash hoard or not...
 
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Eh..? To be fair, it was hardly a pathetic upgrade. I skipped the entire 5 generation as it had nothing to add that my 4S could not do as a phone, even when they (ahem.. allegedly..) tried to cripple it with software updates... :eek:
However the iPhone 6, is a much better phone for productivity IMO, in that I can actually [properly..] read and reply to emails on the road and allowed me to dump my iPad mini. I now only need my 11" MBA and a phone when on the move.
Now you could call the 6S a pathetic upgrade and I would not disagree with you.
It is not always all about specs and why Apple do not always seem to care for them in the way some of us do.

I agree with most you write here…
BUT: the core-business of a Smartphone is still doing the phone-job as good as possible.

And the Phone-function of the 5/5s was much superior in comparison with the 4/4s.
People still don´t know because there are nearly ZERO of the reviews with seriously tested phone-function (antenna etc) in less-than-perfect surroundings/Situations. But I read two of these rare and well-elaborated reviews proving this. There is no doubt in their results.

And NO: it´s not only about antenna-gate ("You´re holding it wrong!").
BTW: the plastic enclosure of the 5c made it the best PHONE apple ever made… :D it captured without being blocked by a Faraday cage… as most of the better phones who all had plastic enclosures....
 
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"Really minor improvements"

It's there in black and white anything up to 50% improvements. But benchmarks, meh - more importantly they provide improvements in day to day use cases.

It's a shame - class leading, and decent yearly percentage gains are "really minor" to people like you. Oh well, it's your opinion so it's certainly valid for you, if it's what you believe more power to you.
 
Is anyone else but me a little pissed that I can no longer get a 32gig option, but must now pay for the more expensive 64gig phone that I don't need?
 
Is anyone else but me a little pissed that I can no longer get a 32gig option, but must now pay for the more expensive 64gig phone that I don't need?

Not for me. The 32Gb was a paid upgrade anyway with the 5s. With the 6 and later you pay the same and get an extra 32GB.
 
Is anyone else but me a little pissed that I can no longer get a 32gig option, but must now pay for the more expensive 64gig phone that I don't need?

Yes, I would - if I were considering a new iP5se…

But the most I am still pissed about is NOT having the chance to plug-in a simple micro-SD card with 64-128 GB (with photos or mp3 or documents on it) … one of the advantages of Samsung.

If they would only work on their own UNIX-based OS or support Linux-workers and care more about their customers than apple and less arrogant and ignorant than apple, Samsung would shoot up rapidly in apple´s nowadays position…

Nokia was on that way with the free and good Symbian Software. It worked very good, was very User-friedly and never had bugs or crashes on it! Used communicator Models for more 10 Years (until 2012). The communicator was the first real Smartphone (market-entry already in 1997 !!) Stopping Symbian R&D instead of intensifying it was a big strategic fault of NOKIAn as history showed.
 
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Is anyone else but me a little pissed that I can no longer get a 32gig option, but must now pay for the more expensive 64gig phone that I don't need?
At least for the 6 and 6s the upgrade from 16 to 64gb was $100, the same amount for the previous upgrade from 16 to 32gb. So for the same $ you get 2x the storage. I'm happy about that.
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My 5s is still going great. The only thing I wish it had is ApplePay
I'm also using a 5S and am looking forward to this upgrade as it appears it will include Apple Pay. Now if only my credit union will get with the times . . .
 
But the most I am still pissed about is NOT having the chance to plug-in a simple micro-SD card with 64-128 GB (with photos or mp3 or documents on it) … one of the advantages of Samsung.

If they are only work on their own UNIX-based OS and care more about their customers than apple and less arrogant and ignorant than apple, Samsung would shoot up rapidly in apple´s nowadays position…

Samsung have removed card slots in their latest flagships. The S5 from 2014 had one. The S6 and Note 5 from 2015 do not.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6849&idPhone2=6033&idPhone3=7431
 
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Samsung have removed card slots in their latest flagships. The S5 from 2014 had one. The S6 and Note 5 from 2015 do not.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6849&idPhone2=6033&idPhone3=7431


didn´t know that - bought a S4 (still perfectly working) for my daughter some years ago and thought Samsung carried on with this - then - good feature… and I was not far from purchasing a Samsung for me either. The SD-card-Extensions, the possibility to do rapidly a drawing for explaining this to other persons or just for own memory was (in 2012) for professional reasons very tempting for me - but the size of the Samsung Note sadly made it a no-Go. 4" is perfect for me. Bigger size is too bulky.
 
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The iPhone 5s' design was flawless, their peak aesthetically thus far.


so you want to buy the same design year after year? forget about the whole marketing and business aspect.

YOU yourself is going dish out 900 dollars for the same design?
 
loon3y: there is plenty to change with every new phone but one thing that should apple should get rid of is rounded edges (square edges is much better especially for us that do not use or hate cases) so 5s in that sense is best iPhone so far..;looks and ergonomics...future versions can have less or no bezel, add this/remove that etc. etc. but, please no rounded edges and must have small version not gigantic version only. Have at least 3 different sizes of the top iPhone and who knows they may even find one day a need to create different styles of phones as other companies do (but lets not get there)
 
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so you want to buy the same design year after year? forget about the whole marketing and business aspect.

YOU yourself is going dish out 900 dollars for the same design?


are you talking about "same design" (meaning engineering) or "same style" (meaning fashion) ?

as for me, I think the UI and form factor of the ip5 was nearly perfect - as IOS 6 or 7 remains still a very good OS.

No REAL real-life-based need for me (and shurely an increasing part of customers) to adapt yourself on differing form factor, changement of buttons from right to left and up to down and glittery NON-RELEVANT "new" IOS-surfaces full of bugs…

The pedals, the instruments and the gearbox of my cars have rarely changed. Nor other Ui like in elevators, and so on. This is extremely good and comfortable.
Standardization is economic and ergonomic.

Jony Ive, pretending to be in the legendary tradition of "Bauhaus" and Dieter Rams…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Rams

has changed his way of "designing" from "form follows function" into "lots of useless new gimmicks every year" .

GOOD design is approaching more and more perfection. And gets by this way a reasonable "classic" or "cult design" .

Look at BRAUN design or the legends like Beetle cars or Austin Mini or many legends to look at in the Museum of Modern art: FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION.

BUT - every 12 Months radically changing your products means you´re resting long way way from perfection… always reaching for some superficially but non-substancial "Ah" and "oh!" effects.


Jony Ive with his iterative and non-logic ideas is far from getting a designer legend like Rams. Just the contrary: Ive´s design is getting more and more nothing but mediocre and simple stylistic essays… same as the widely over-estimated Phlippe Starck. Jonny Ive has already lost contact with customers and real-world demands a while ago…

Apple´s "design" isn´t more about functional and ergonomic design, it is more and more about mounting barriers for customers and about exaggerating on his ridiculous fetish of "Thinness".

And Jonny Ive now being responsible for R&D of SW is the worst case possible. Ridiculous "new features" popping out of his head every day… his work is getting more and more a simple, exchangeable and superficial FASHIONSTYLE than good design and not even solid stylistic work...
 
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The iPhone 5s' design was flawless, their peak aesthetically thus far.

Came here to say this. I'd love to see that same aesthetic, but just a bit thinner. It didn't slip around in-hand like the 6, and while the smaller screen real estate would be a downgrade, I can live with it given the other specs.
 
Came here to say this. I'd love to see that same aesthetic, but just a bit thinner. It didn't slip around in-hand like the 6, and while the smaller screen real estate would be a downgrade, I can live with it given the other specs.
I loved and still love the design of the 5c. Extremely comfortable in-hand; I've never had the feeling it was slipping out of my hand; very clean lines. The moment I saw it I knew that was the model I wanted.

I remember having to make that decision: go with the phone that felt and looked great, but had the lesser chip and camera...or go with the latest (at the time, the 5S), get the 64-bit chip, Touch ID, new camera with slo-mo video and dual-tone flash, but with a design that made me shrug. I would go to the Apple Store, spend several minutes holding them each in hand, weighing the choice. In the end I bought the 5c, with the following expectation: if I could make it a year without worrying that I didn't have Touch ID or 64 bits, then I would live fine with a second year of increasingly wanting these things. Then, come Septemberish of 2015, I expected that the 6c or whatever would have gotten these features.

That they ended the 5c is a real shame. If they put in front of me a phone that took design cues from the 5S, or worse the 6, with the A9/M9 and the 6S's camera, and a phone that looked like my 5c with an A8/M8 and the 5S camera...I would take the latter in a heartbeat.
 
I loved and still love the design of the 5c. Extremely comfortable in-hand; I've never had the feeling it was slipping out of my hand; very clean lines. The moment I saw it I knew that was the model I wanted.

I remember having to make that decision: go with the phone that felt and looked great, but had the lesser chip and camera...or go with the latest (at the time, the 5S), get the 64-bit chip, Touch ID, new camera with slo-mo video and dual-tone flash, but with a design that made me shrug. I would go to the Apple Store, spend several minutes holding them each in hand, weighing the choice. In the end I bought the 5c, with the following expectation: if I could make it a year without worrying that I didn't have Touch ID or 64 bits, then I would live fine with a second year of increasingly wanting these things. Then, come Septemberish of 2015, I expected that the 6c or whatever would have gotten these features.

That they ended the 5c is a real shame. If they put in front of me a phone that took design cues from the 5S, or worse the 6, with the A9/M9 and the 6S's camera, and a phone that looked like my 5c with an A8/M8 and the 5S camera...I would take the latter in a heartbeat.

I purchased my iP5 before the 5c entered the market. Would have purchased also the 5c.
Although: The colors were a little bit tooooooo pop-art… grey or black would have been nice and so more people would have bought it.
 
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