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New Airport Express with 802.11n Next Week?

Keebler said:
ditto on this one. as much as I love Apple..i'm p*ssed at them for not making this happen. I don't think it's an oversight either...it's a blatant attempt to force us to buy the appletv.

:(

oh well...
i guess things could be worse :)
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Good thing Airfoil should take care of that problem ;)

Just as a side note, the reason it doesn't work anymore is beceause iTunes used to playback audio for Front Row. In Front Row 2 Apple completely rewrote it and it now uses Leopard's new media browser to playback audio. Could they add AirTunes support in Front Row 2? I don't see why not honestly.

tirerim said:
Short answer: no. You won't see improved speeds at all for web browsing because your connection to the internet is already slower than your 802.11g connection to your wireless router. If you have FiOS or something similar, you might be getting close to the capacity of the 802.11g, but you still won't be exceeding it.
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The only thing "n" really is good for is home/office networking. Having faster speeds to my wife's MB would be nice. Definitely not worth "upgrading to" though ... at least for this household.
 
KramRevilo said:
Just to be clear about this, many people have the expectation of better performance (i.e. greater throughput) AND greater range concurrently.

As a WLAN professional let me cut through the 802.11n hype and add the comment that the 'AND' should be taken as an 'OR'. You can get existing rates at a longer range OR you can get faster rates (with an 802.11n client) at distances that are comparable to what you have today. Please don't think that you get BOTH ... because this is NOT the way 802.11n works.

-Kram
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So greater speed at, say 100 ft... then you move to 200 ft where G would be operating at 0 MBps, and N works at 2 MBps. That seems like better speed AND better distance ;)

I can tell it's a pet peeve of yours, but you're talking semantics, and everyone can understand that N, like G, eventually slows with distance.
 
I read somewhere that the current "n" routers, (doesn't matter who the manufacturer is) are not able to do WDS. Has anyone else heard or read about this? Has something to do with the chips used and the capability is not onboard.
 
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I have the new base station. I have 5 express stations set up for airtunes. Has it just been defaulting to 802.11b/g even though I set it for n? Seems to make sense. Why does my wife's vista pc keep bumping our connection?
 
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I have the new base station. I have 5 express stations set up for airtunes. Has it just been defaulting to 802.11b/g even though I set it for n? Seems to make sense. Why does my wife's vista pc keep bumping our connection?
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Uh, it's not out yet. How do you have it?
 
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QuarterSwede said:
Mindflux said:
Uh, it's not out yet. How do you have it?
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I think he means is the new router defaulting to "g" since the all of the expresses are "g." From what I understand, yes.
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thanks. Yeah, I meant the most recent airport base station and 5 existing express bs's.

And thanks for the reply re: G, that's what I figured.

Is it going to be hardware update only or firmware?

If hardware, then it's time to ebay.


TJM
 
Shadow said:
You may already have it. Open Network Utility in Applications/Utilities and select "Network Interface (en1)" from the drop-down menu. At the bottom if it says (emphasis mine):

then you have 802.11n. If not, you have 802.11g. If you have g, you can purchase an upgrade from Apple :)
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I have an earlier model iMac (2GHz Intel Core Duo) with Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g). Anyway to upgrade to n with this model??
 
B-Dizzy said:
Why doesn't apple create an apple hi-fi with built in airport express, its annoying to have this big block plugged into the wall that hardly stays in there unless its a brand new outlet, then having to run another wire from the airport express to your speakers. If they would just build a set of speakers that already had an airport express it would be beautiful.
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I think that's called :apple: Apple TV. Supports HD video, too.

BTW, the European version (using Europlugs in Schuko outlets) does not have the problem you describe. :p
 
Can I use this thing as a Wireless Bridge?

I have a Wireless G Router from Linksys. I also have a Temperature control unit for my BBQ Grill that can connect to the internet via ethernet. This allows me to monitor my cook when I am smoking something for a long time from any web browser. The problem is I don't want to run a 100 foot cat 5 cable out to my BBQ.

Could I use connect the ethernet port from the Airport Express to my control unit and then let the AE act as the bridge to my router? It has to work so that my Temperature control unit pulls its own IP address.
 
MACaBAMA said:
Can I use this thing as a Wireless Bridge?

I have a Wireless G Router from Linksys. I also have a Temperature control unit for my BBQ Grill that can connect to the internet via ethernet. This allows me to monitor my cook when I am smoking something for a long time from any web browser. The problem is I don't want to run a 100 foot cat 5 cable out to my BBQ.

Could I use connect the ethernet port from the Airport Express to my control unit and then let the AE act as the bridge to my router? It has to work so that my Temperature control unit pulls its own IP address.
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When it operates in client mode, the ethernet port is not functional (at least on the current Expresses). In WDS mode, you would have to have another Airport Express or an Extreme to talk to as WDS does not work across different router brands (for the most part).
 
eqinespecter said:
I have an earlier model iMac (2GHz Intel Core Duo) with Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g). Anyway to upgrade to n with this model??
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I am pretty sure all the a/b/g Airport cards (in Mac computers) are actually 802.11n cards. With my Macbook Pro, I had to pay $2 IIRC for the "802.11n enabler", which turned n-mode on. Prior to buying that, the laptop reported itself as 802.11a/b/g.

The software comes for free with the 802.11n Airport Extreme - I'd guess it'd come with an 802.11n Express as well.
 
Let me get the range-advantage straight.

Replacing a g-express with a n-express will expand the range of the network? Even for g-devices?

Thanks
 
Westside guy said:
I am pretty sure all the a/b/g Airport cards (in Mac computers) are actually 802.11n cards. With my Macbook Pro, I had to pay $2 IIRC for the "802.11n enabler", which turned n-mode on. Prior to buying that, the laptop reported itself as 802.11a/b/g.

The software comes for free with the 802.11n Airport Extreme - I'd guess it'd come with an 802.11n Express as well.
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I think this only started with the Core 2 Duos in Sept. '06.
 
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I have an earlier model iMac (2GHz Intel Core Duo) with Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g). Anyway to upgrade to n with this model??
Westside Guy said:
I am pretty sure all the a/b/g Airport cards (in Mac computers) are actually 802.11n cards. With my Macbook Pro, I had to pay $2 IIRC for the "802.11n enabler", which turned n-mode on. Prior to buying that, the laptop reported itself as 802.11a/b/g.

The software comes for free with the 802.11n Airport Extreme - I'd guess it'd come with an 802.11n Express as well.
flopticalcube said:
I think this only started with the Core 2 Duos in Sept. '06.
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thanks to both of you. Flop is correct...I paid the $2 at the time but it would not work on the Core Duo. I was just wondering if anything has come down the pike to allow/enable the 'n' capability (besides hacking!).
 
/dev/toaster said:
Maybe Apple will fix the AEBS while they are at it ... I enjoy spending almost $200 for a device that I can't use. (I bought it for Timemachine)
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So it has no use as a router? That's it's primary function. :rolleyes: And I do agree it would be nice to get Time Machine over it.
 
/dev/toaster said:
Maybe Apple will fix the AEBS while they are at it ... I enjoy spending almost $200 for a device that I can't use. (I bought it for Timemachine)
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I doubt that will ever happen, that would place it to compete against the Time Capsule, the TC is niche-marketed already, so they need all the share they can get.
 
/dev/toaster said:
Maybe Apple will fix the AEBS while they are at it ... I enjoy spending almost $200 for a device that I can't use. (I bought it for Timemachine)
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You can enable it with this Terminal command:

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
 
Mindflux said:
So it has no use as a router? That's it's primary function. :rolleyes: And I do agree it would be nice to get Time Machine over it.
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The only thing it does right now is take up space. It doesn't have nearly the features that my Sonicwall does. Yes, I do make heavy use of IPSec VPN and the IDS.

I only bought it for Timemachine, nothing more.

I can't return it and I can't get anyone to buy it (unless I sell it for half of what it is worth)
 
psychofreak said:
You can enable it with this Terminal command:

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
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I have already done this ... I am presently backing up my machines to a central Samba server.

SMB is slow as crap compared to AFP.

The big problem is that the AEBS is very unstable for Timemachine. Apple needs to fix it.
 
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