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If you've been following MacRumors for the past few years and you can't understand why people here are unhappy, I guess there is just no explanation that would help you understand. o_O
I've been here since 2003.

I'm as disappointed as anyone in their recent release schedule, but you lot act like Tim Cook came to your house, kicked your dog, bound you with Apple Watch straps, and tattooed a Drake emoji on your forehead.
 
If you've been following MacRumors for the past few years and you can't understand why people here are unhappy, I guess there is just no explanation that would help you understand. o_O
Is it perhaps because many "people here" don't understand that Apple are under no obligation to create and sell what many "people here" believe they are entitled to?
 
There's a lot of stupid apps in the ios App Store so going by MacRumors logic today I guess that means the iPhone and iPad are gimmicks.
 
I really don't get all the hatred and misery that's crept into MacRumors the past few years.

But, that seems to be the trend for the web in general these days. The loudest, most miserable people dominate the conversation.

Anyway, if Steve Jobs had put the Touch Bar on the MacBook Pro 10 years ago, people here would have been all starry-eyed, imagining all the possibilities. Now it's just a bunch of uninformed "stupid emoji bar" comments over and over and over and over.

I don't think they would - they pulled the post iPod launch thread out of the archives recently and it read just like every product reaction today on here, full of hate and vitriol and people telling Apple what they should be doing...
 
Imagine a future keynote: Lets look at all the laptops. Notice the lower half the laptop have physical buttons. What if you want to add function? You can't because you already shipped. How do we solve it? We already solved it. Shows keyboard with an all touch display.
 
Imazing 2.0 makes good use of the Touch Bar.

Anyway this piano app (just a proof of concept) has been out for over a week. I'm surprised the rumor sites just found out about it today.

While this particular app is useful only for entertainment, this concept could be functional elsewhere (MIDI apps, audio editing, etc). But all we'll get on this thread are several hundred sarcastic posts about how Tim Cook needs to be fired for "gimping" the Mac with a piano bar.

I use ableton live, and Push, so I wouldn't use the touch bar in that setting for any reason at all. However, I'd be interested to what Ableton could do with it, so if I'm out and get some downtime away from my controller, the touch bar could add some useful control or input that would make editing or creating more fun.

I also can't believe that emojis and odd stuff like this are surprising people. Developers weren't going to have these awesome ideas ready to go for the touch bar in the first month. I remember when I bough the first rMBP and my apps looked like crap for months because devs wouldn't add HiDPI support. You want to early adopt, then you have to wait for wider adoption to come, if it comes at all.

Personally, I don't want to jump on at the moment. But I have no problems with what Apple is doing, except I feel they should have included a multi port dongle in the box (or shipped with) for customers who bought in early. And also I'm not a fan of that keyboard, the loud clicks and the key travel. Hoping the latter continues to be refined.
 
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There are 99 cent apps on the iPhone and iPad years ago that could do this.
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Looks handy. I'm sure all the pro musicians are dying to get this machine... :rolleyes:

Yeah, Elvis wishes he took piano lessons instead of guitar........
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Jesus, you people take everything way too seriously. Nobody is expecting a musician to write the next great piano sonata on the touch bar. It's just a goofy thing you can do. Can we not make every minor, silly app an excuse to claim the touch bar is a stupid gimmick and actually judge it on the improvements it's meant to offer now and/or with future app updates?

Right, there no single professional waiting for this, that's the point: MBP should be MBA (MacBook Amateur).
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How 'bout everyone take a breath, sip some decaf, and realize this is just a cute proof of concept. Reminds me of the Church's early position on the fork.

Yes, and it only costs you 300 bugs extra on top of a very high price to start with.
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humor isn't yours, isn't it?

Useful comments not yours....
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Everyone criticising the usefulness of the touch bar and toy like gimmickary of this application are failing to realise that the app developer was just toying around and experimenting. It doesn't lessen the value of the touch bar.

There are thousands of apps in the App Store that are 'useless' yet noone says that therefore means the iPhone must be a subpar product.

And actually this touchbar application is EXTREMELY useful for any dance production mobile musician. If you're out and about and don't have your midi keyboard with you and need to input some basic melodic notes or beats, if this syncs up with Logic Pro, Cubase or pro tools etc this could be an awesome input tool.

People should not be so quick to judge everything based on their own limited views and needs. Everybody's work flows are different. There is not one universal gold standard.

It doesn't lessen the value of the touch bar. True, still at zero.
 
even if you are mad or angry at someone, writing it here would not change a damn thing besides collecting a few likes. SMH at those negative comments. I am just glad I don't have them in my life. Peace.
 
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the only people buying these overpriced jokes are people with so much disposable income that they honestly don't know what to do with their money. they see "cool" commercials with people doing "cool" things next to an apple logo and they say man, i want to be a part of that.
 
Personally, I don't want to jump on at the moment. But I have no problems with what Apple is doing, except I feel they should have included a multi port dongle in the box (or shipped with) for customers who bought in early. And also I'm not a fan of that keyboard, the loud clicks and the key travel. Hoping the latter continues to be refined.

I'm sure they will continue to refine the keyboard. There is a noticeable difference between it and the 12" MacBook.
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Mainly the SSD is like super ultra mega fast and stuff. Otherwise… :(

Don't forget the USB-C ports are USB 3.1 Gen 2- and Thunderbolt 3-compliant. I ran some tests using a Samsung 950 and it was about 10-20% faster on read and write tests using a USB 3.1 Gen 2-compliant cable vs. a USB 3.0 cable.

There was really no way they could make significant performance improvements. Intel's progress on that front has slowed, which is probably why they stuck with Haswell and Broadwell for as long as they did.
 
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This is the stupidest MacBook Pro ever IMHO !!
Really a touch bar ?
The most logical idea would have been a whole keyboard as the touchscreen with iPad features.

Seriously "this"! It's like they're just "toying" with the idea. This at best is a proof of concept to sell the idea of a touch screen keyboard on a mac but it should never have seen the light of day at this iteration.
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the only people buying these overpriced jokes are people with so much disposable income that they honestly don't know what to do with their money. they see "cool" commercials with people doing "cool" things next to an apple logo and they say man, i want to be a part of that.

Honestly that is the only reason I want one. There is absolutely nothing compelling about this product aside from the reduction in weight.
 
Imagine a future keynote: Lets look at all the laptops. Notice the lower half the laptop have physical buttons. What if you want to add function? You can't because you already shipped. How do we solve it? We already solved it. Shows keyboard with an all touch display.
Something tells me this isn't so farfetched. Apple may be playing the long game here. Gradually get customers used to shorter key travel and more dynamic keyboards, and when a MacBook Pro ships with an all-touch keyboard no one will be surprised.
 
Seriously "this"! It's like they're just "toying" with the idea. This at best is a proof of concept to sell the idea of a touch screen keyboard on a mac but it should never have seen the light of day at this iteration.
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Honestly that is the only reason I want one. There is absolutely nothing compelling about this product aside from the reduction in weight.

So what other improvements, technologically feasible in 2016, could they have made to make it compelling? 32GB of RAM is not practical (even if the weight did not drop), particularly since the current version is already drawing complaints about battery life. The 13" lacks the thermal support for anything more intense than the 28W dual-core processors. They have pretty much maxed out on the I/O capacity.
 
Imagine a future keynote: Lets look at all the laptops. Notice the lower half the laptop have physical buttons. What if you want to add function? You can't because you already shipped. How do we solve it? We already solved it. Shows keyboard with an all touch display.
Or shows an updated iPad Pro.
 
I'm very excited! I hate using my alpha keys for composition, and when I'm actually on the plane the tables are never deep enough to hold my CME XKeys. Very happy!

Reading through the comments, I love it when haters hate! Jealousy is a disease here. A lot of input with no end user experience to back it up! Lol.

I would say it IS an extension to the keyboard. Frees your keys for shortcuts!
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So what other improvements, technologically feasible in 2016, could they have made to make it compelling? 32GB of RAM is not practical (even if the weight did not drop), particularly since the current version is already drawing complaints about battery life. The 13" lacks the thermal support for anything more intense than the 28W dual-core processors. They have pretty much maxed out on the I/O capacity.
I still think 32GB of ram is ridiculous for a portable machine in 2016/2017/maybe 2018. Just a bunch of size queens.

A lot of people complaining about 32GB seems from developers and programmers running virtual desktops. If you're at work all day, why would you get a laptop anyways? complaints will never end. Plus, if you need a portable desktop, there are bags for iMacs. Haha.
 
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