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~Shard~ said:
Um, I was just joking around buddy - see the ;) at the end of my post? I appreciate the somewhat "serious" reply to my clowning around though... :cool:

Oh.. I was.. uh... joking around too, then. ;)

Lots of genuine bad ideas in here today.. I'm sorry I didn't have more faith in you. :D

I was looking at my 32" Sony Wega TV... and I realized.. there's no way I could put a 30" lcd on my desk.. goddamnit thats big!

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Why doesn't the artist's rendition include a note that says : Stylus not shown? I better be able to draw on this ****.
 
nacl99 said:
I'm a little disappointed of how..normal these screens look. The one foot in the middle, the thick bezel, its not exactly ground breaking.
Me too. They look a little outdated and conservative. Have you seen the eyegonomic brand displays? They look like the Apple displays SHOULD look.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the specs though...waiting with credit card in hand for a new 23". It would be nice if the 20" went HD, and the screens could rotate from landscape to portrait. But hey...I'm not complaining.
 
crumbz said:
Hopefully they won't be backordered for 45 days on announcement like the Airport Express.



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agentbristow said:
OK, it could just be me, but doesnt the display in this pic look different from the ones that they have now? Most likely just me, but hey i could be right.
it looks like it theres no pinstripes maybe
 
agentbristow said:
OK, it could just be me, but doesnt the display in this pic look different from the ones that they have now? Most likely just me, but hey i could be right.

It's you. It looks like the old cinema display.
 
uhh

why would the 30" only work on g5's? I hope thats not true, one of my customers has 2 17" PB's with a 20 Cine, he said that if they come out with a 30" that matches the look of the PB he will GIVE me his 20" cine, I have a 12" PB, so i really want the 20"
 
Still ONE cable?

Here's a thought... that large power brick may be more than a power supply.

There could still be a single cable going from the display to the brick--less clutter where you work--and then the brick could have DVI, wall outlet, USB, and Firewire cables.

Looked at another way that's 5 total... but it still sounds good to me. Especially with the 2 hub cables being optional, and the fact that the brick can sit out of sight. Apple could even include a multi-cable to go from the brick to the Mac (or PC), with only the end(s) forking.

And that's the second way they could have one cable: the forking end(s) trick would work even if the brick IS only for power.

BTW, if those drawings are based on photos (which I have no reason to believe but who knows), they support this: they only show one cable.

ThinkSecret is really on the line this week :)
 
Photorun said:
And we're supposed to believe ThinkSecret about this rumor and the (laughable) sketches... why?!? Seeing how they blew the G5 prediction I'm not putting any stock in any of this, so neither should you people.

You need to learn how to read. While your at it you should also learn manners.

ThinkSecret prediction says the date could be pushed. ThinkSecret has an extremely good track record on predictions and rumors. People who don't know what they are talkin about should really not be allowed to comment.
 
uv23 said:
I'm sick of this widescreen fad. Not everyone wants a big monior to watch DVDs on. Some of us need real estate on which to do actual work. And a lame vertical resolution isn't going to do me any good when I'm dealing with large indesign spreads.

Better get use to it since the world is going widescreen. Apple was just smart enough to get there first. As others have stated widescreen, obviously, displays more info horizontally while maintains, roughly, the same vertical size of the screen. I don't know about anyone else but I love the idea of widescreen. I can have my IM window, browser window open in one half of the screen while I do work in the other. A standard nearly square display is really optimal for one window being open unless you are talking about some seriously large display.

Even the PC world is slowly moving widescreen. Look at ANY concept PC's that have been shown lately and they are ALL widescreen. Heck there is rumor that Longhorn's tier one system requirements (e.g. the one to get all the bells and whistles out of LH.) may require widescreen.

Again get use to it.
 
agentbristow said:
OK, it could just be me, but doesnt the display in this pic look different from the ones that they have now? Most likely just me, but hey i could be right.
looks like ur everyday cinema display to me.
 
agentbristow said:
OK, it could just be me, but doesnt the display in this pic look different from the ones that they have now? Most likely just me, but hey i could be right.

It's just you, that's a 20" CD just like I have in front of me right now.
 
0 and A ai said:
You need to learn how to read. While your at it you should also learn manners.

ThinkSecret prediction says the date could be pushed. ThinkSecret has an extremely good track record on predictions and rumors. People who don't know what they are talkin about should really not be allowed to comment.

YOU need manners son, I've been here much longer than you, and you're talking out of your wahoo noob, go find another forum if you don't like opinions that don't match yours.

ThinkSecret did INDEED say on Monday that the G5s were coming out on Tuesday, they assured us of it, they were wrong, they've been wrong before, they'll be wrong again. Because ThinkSecret, like most rumor sites, plays revisionalist history to save their arse they've of course removed their original article. However, Macrumors, which is my one stop shop for all things Mac and Rumor, still has the post (attached)... I can read, can you?!? Oh, yeah, and notice the post date when it was put up, you seem like you'll have problems with numbers and math so I'll help ya out, it was posted on Monday and tomorrow, from Monday, is Tuesday, it's now Wednesday.

Thanks for playing, next time before you say something obnoxious, think first.
 

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Wow.

And to think that I grew up with a gigantic 20" Sony TV. Back then, we thought 20" was huge.....now Apple, a computer maker, is entering the hoem theater market with their 30" display (or may enter the market).

30" is more than large enough for people to want/start to use it as a TV.
 
theSingleCell said:
why would the 30" only work on g5's? I hope thats not true, one of my customers has 2 17" PB's with a 20 Cine, he said that if they come out with a 30" that matches the look of the PB he will GIVE me his 20" cine, I have a 12" PB, so i really want the 20"

Well, it probably requires a video card that the Powerbooks can't support. G5s (and maybe even G4 Desktops) can handle crazy-fast video cards.
 
Widescreen is not a fad

uv23 said:
I'm sick of this widescreen fad. Not everyone wants a big monior to watch DVDs on. Some of us need real estate on which to do actual work. And a lame vertical resolution isn't going to do me any good when I'm dealing with large indesign spreads.

Widescreen is not a fad.
Every Graphic designer I know as well as myself prefer widescreen displays. Especially when working with InDesign spreads. A 23'' Cinema can display a full spread in InDesign @ 100% with toolbars, thats perfect!

So if apple drops ADC for DVI allowing them to get video cards faster, does this mean they will be DVI+VGA like all the ATI PC cards currently?
If so thats a problem for us who use two digital displays, and don't tell me I can just get a converter for VGA to DVI. I want a pure digital signal.
 
I reeeeeealy hope that this isn't all just BS.

Because it would piss a lot of people off.

Take the whole G5 3ghz thing as an example.

Remember this is a rumor site, don't expect any of it until it's up on apple's website.

But anyway, I would really be seriously thinking about buying a 20inch, that would be so sweet if it's under $1000.

-cody
 
I'm not sure about this. Why can't they provide DVI and ADC ports on it? Wouldn't that satisfy everyone then? Or include the DVI-ADC adaptor in the box?

And the artist's rendition looks suspiciously like the legions and legions of ordinary boring displays that everyone else makes - looks just like the crap that gets included with every flat panel £500 Dell.

Only Apple and Formac had stylish displays IMO. This doesn't add up to me.
 
DVI makes sense

Benefits:

  • 3rd party video cards will be the same, just different code bases
  • Home Entertainment Components for Digital Hub Future when HDTV is lit and Analog is dead
  • Apple Display Market barriers dropped, competes with the entire marketscape for consumer dollars means increased revenues
  • Ease of connecting to camcorders via firewire/usb2 will challenge other display vendors to make such offerings standard, leading to price drops and volume sale increases-may the best product prevail.

With so much becoming a wireless scenario having the luxury of one moment watching your entertainment via Cable and then the next moment switching the view to the OS makes it a much more attractive solution.

Innovation has to start happening with general appliances, not just games and consumer software applications.
 
Everyone is overlooking...

No one likes that *shoe* thingy on the bottom- but it seems to me that Apple is making that just one of many mounting options. This thing looks like a slab with controls on the side (and contrary to the diatribes around here, a single cable). With a wall mounter that gave you a little space for routing the cables (if you want to access the extra ports) in the back, it would almost be flush with a wall. The low pixel density is a plus in this case, especially with the 30" version- you could use it from a distance. Apple LCD's (or more correctly their video drivers/firmware) tend to have better than average smoothing algorithms for resolution changes as well- so again this should be one kickin home theatre component/computer monitor. Other mounting options are left to your imagination... :p

I'm getting to the point where I really have consumed the cool aid- Steve has a hot streak going and hasn't placed a foot wrong in a while... I'm betting most of the objections are going to be met and dealt with (assuming that Think Secret is straight shooting on this one). Its nice that the CEO is such a connesuir of digital loveliness... he isn't letting Apple produce things he wouldn't want in his own multimillion dollar home. Though that can be tough on the wallets of the "Rest of Us" who "Think Different"... :D
 
greenmonsterman said:
Sweet... except for the whole DVI business.

I want one.

you mean you want one with a dvi connector?? if so, may I ask why? adc is far more better since it doesn't need a power cable.

wonder how much the 20" will cost if a 30"er comes out.. maybe the price drops to the same as the current 17" model.

hmm a 2x30" Cinema Display & 2x2,5GHz G5 with 8Gb RAM :D that would be pretty much a YUMMY setup! ;D
 
Cost analysis:

Choices have to be made: Reach a high volume market or remain a nitch player within a comfortable business model.

Video Card vendors already eat cost duplicating the manufacturing process by offering a Mac enabled card versus a PC enabled card when all that needs to be offered is a PC enabled card and a device driver that interfaces with that card the way your operating system chooses.

The innovation should be at the OS Level where the GPU is just a dumb device that crunches the numbers.

Having Apple eat the cost of increased manufacturing by offering dual adaptors on the displays means higher costs to the consumer.

johnnyjibbs said:
I'm not sure about this. Why can't they provide DVI and ADC ports on it? Wouldn't that satisfy everyone then? Or include the DVI-ADC adaptor in the box?

And the artist's rendition looks suspiciously like the legions and legions of ordinary boring displays that everyone else makes - looks just like the crap that gets included with every flat panel £500 Dell.

Only Apple and Formac had stylish displays IMO. This doesn't add up to me.
 
Slandering?

windowsblowsass said:
take your off topic/slandering comments out of here if you want tha in your sig put it in your sig otherwise go to the political forums

How is "backordered for 45 days" Slandering?

But seriously...if you think that tiny little comment at the end compares to the hugely offensive giant red "sigs" then you need to check yourself.
 
i hope think secret is right, for their sake...

but they sound so sure of themselves.
 
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