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This obviously is not a main point of the article, but I'd just like to say that it's very unlikely that Apple is actually causing a shortage in tree nursery stock for fruit trees. The previous article mentioned a number of about 9,000 trees. With an average of 300 trees per acre, that equates to 30 acres of commercial orchard. There are roughly 9 million acres of ag land in CA alone.

Shortage for the specific nursery? Sure. Shortage across the industry? Absolutely not.
 
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So sad he couldn't live to see its completion. RIP Steve
Initially I was thinking of making a comment how great the video drone footage of the new park. Then I decided to watch this video it was an awesome video and I wish he would witness this building to completely land in Cupertino. However with presentation as typical Californians everything must be environmentally friendly. But what I don't understand that California has so many rules and restrictions to keep their state as the role model for environmental loving state. It confuses me how this state suffers from the so called climate change. Same thing with their very strict regulations of guns yet gun crimes is very high in most of their cities.
 
All this means really is that pcs got to a point where it's hard to make them better. Means we replace them less as they keep doing the job longer. That's what I noticed anyway. And I don't see how this is a bad thing.

What really needs to improve is software, better optimisations which will result in better performance. You don't need a new computer every year. You need one that does the job. Unless I'm missing something...

You make an excellent point here.

Think back to the days when Apple transitioned from 68K processors to PowerPC. When the first 601 machines came out, they used existing System 7 code in emulation on the 601. As the bits of System 7 were replaced with PPC code, the existing Macs became faster with every update. Likewise, when we transitioned to OS X, as the old code was eliminated in favor of Carbon and eventually Cocoa, the machines got faster with every point release. Sometimes it was noticeable, sometimes it was just numbers on a test.

I recall reading an article either here or AI that explained the processor isn't always the weak link, but rather its the compilers used in building the OS and the applications. In the article they mentioned that compiler optimization is about 3-5 years behind the processor capability. If the various compilers ever caught up, our machines - old, new, whatever - would be dramatically more efficient, faster.
 
I assume eventually were going to see grass and not just piles of dirt everywhere?
Yes, I'm guessing November-December 2016 or early 2018.

But not much lawn, more likely drought-tolerant ground cover.
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Waste of OUR money.
If you are a shareholder you have a legitimate beef.

If you are simply a customer, you do not. In the latter case, it ceased being your money when you gave it to Apple.

In the same way, if you buy a book from Amazon, you really don't have any say about what soap dispenser Amazon installs in the employee bathrooms of their Nevada distribution center.

And even if you are an AAPL shareholder your voice probably doesn't have much weight unless you are the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, Vanguard, FMR, BlackRock, State Street, etc.

If you really don't like what Apple is doing with whatever money you gave to them, well, stop giving them money. You have alternatives. No one is pointing a gun at your head and telling you that you must spend your money on Apple products and services.
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Apparently Apple has developed time traveling drones... Be afraid people, be very afraid.
As far as I can sell, the incorrect "May 2017" labelling was from the third-party drone videographer, not Apple.

I would caution people to be more afraid of MacRumors commenters who can't delineate content between Apple and those who write about Apple.
 
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Thanks for posting this video. You can tell how "sick" his body was, but still with a very sharp mind. Watching this just made me hate TC even more. Steve Jobs made many bad choices, both in his personal and professional life. Picking TC to be his successor was clearly one of the worst...
 
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New, cheaper, better iPhones, Macs and iPads please. The building is nice, but it is not your mission Apple.

Yes let us all hope that focus goes into these products!

This construction of Apple Park is a small fraction of Apple’s R&D budget, and even smaller percentage of Apple’s overall financial position. Engineers working on new Apple projects have little to with the construction of Apple Park. In fact Apple Park was built to facilitate better communications between engineering, marketing, R&D with a great working environment. So get down off your hobby horse and take a look at what is really going on.

You're the one on your hi horse! I feel you most liekly misinterpreted his point yet touched on it.

He need for the facilities as youve mentioned along with the shifting of focus towards anticipation and potential worry, if at all small, of possible layoffs affects the focus of all corporate office employees lower than executive brass or director level. Those below are always considered replaceable. Not considring this is troublesome.

I think Apple will likely have some virtual tour of the interior/exterior to display during a Keynote or perhaps WWDC might see some more information on the transition.

Would be great for them to show off the 'open to public' parts of the facility.
 
Thanks for posting this video. You can tell how "sick" his body was, but still with a very sharp mind. Watching this just made me hate TC even more. Steve Jobs made many bad choices, both in his personal and professional life. Picking TC to be his successor was clearly one of the worst...

Hate? Why do you hate Tim Cook? More importantly, why do you give Mr. Cook that kind of power over your life?

Can't think of anyone in particular I actually hate...
 
All this means really is that pcs got to a point where it's hard to make them better. Means we replace them less as they keep doing the job longer. That's what I noticed anyway. And I don't see how this is a bad thing.

What really needs to improve is software, better optimisations which will result in better performance. You don't need a new computer every year. You need one that does the job. Unless I'm missing something...

The bad thing about it is that productivity slows. Software other than games is not beig pushed any further. The computer is supposed to be the bicycle for the human mind. Seems a few sprockets have seized up.
 
Instead of hiring/contracting construction workers, maybe Apple can hire engineers and software developers.
They already employ both. The construction continuing at Apple Park is superfluous to the work engineers and software developers do, but people act like a giant corporation cannot delegate different jobs to different people hence my joke.
 
That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. You voluntarily give your money to Apple and it ceased to be yours when they gave you commodity electronics.
If you are a shareholder you have a legitimate beef.

If you are simply a customer, you do not. In the latter case, it ceased being your money when you gave it to Apple.

In the same way, if you buy a book from Amazon, you really don't have any say about what soap dispenser Amazon installs in the employee bathrooms of their Nevada distribution center.

People around here have the uncanny ability state the obvious and can't look beyond their own nose. Of course it's not OUR money right now but it was and without it, Apple could not have built this idiotic glutton of extravagant nonsense. It's a waste and could have been used in much more productive ways.... and yes, Apple will be getting less of my money in the coming years.
 
Yes, get back to developing Macs and iPhones, all you construction workers!

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YES, imagine The Drone showing off the Apple Park and then – to our big surprise (!) – zooming in on a new iMac that sits in the center of the ring; yep, The Drone showing off the new member in the Mac family. Maybe something else in a corner too etc.

Bye the bye, I can totally imagine a videogame called Apple Park ;-)
 
This obviously is not a main point of the article, but I'd just like to say that it's very unlikely that Apple is actually causing a shortage in tree nursery stock for fruit trees. The previous article mentioned a number of about 9,000 trees. With an average of 300 trees per acre, that equates to 30 acres of commercial orchard. There are roughly 9 million acres of ag land in CA alone.

Shortage for the specific nursery? Sure. Shortage across the industry? Absolutely not.

Those trees don't come out of commercial orchards, they come from commercial nurseries. Because you can't manufacture a tree, and it takes years for one to be ready for sale, they tend to be in under or oversupply, depending on the demand. We have a lot of commercial nurseries around here. During the recession they were overloaded with trees that they could hardly give away, and eventually they get too big to sell. Also trees have to come from local nurseries by definition.
 
Yes, get back to developing Macs and iPhones, all you construction workers!

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I had to log in and thumb this one up.
The types of comments like the one you have quoted never seem to end in this forum.
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OK - the latest new Mac was released when???

What does that have anything to do with this article?
Gezzz.... is there any article you guys do not ask that question?
Macs are not the only thing Apple does. It has not been the only thing since early 2000.
 
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Instead of hiring/contracting construction workers, maybe Apple can hire engineers and software developers.

Why would Apple hire engineers and software developers when They already have them clearly.

As if construction workers have any correlation to Apple's hardware line. You're using the new campus as leverage against Apple over hardware that you're clearly not content with.
 
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What I'd like to know... is how they plan on getting the construction equipment out of the center of the donut....
In the video at 3:06, right side of the screen, you can see there's a HUGE entrance to the parking garage from inside the donut. Is there any equipment in particular you think can't either be driven out or hauled out through there (possibly in pieces) on a flatbed truck?

According to the blueprints, any truck that can fit in that tunnel has a very mild turn then a straight shot to drive right out of the building through the loading dock exit.
 
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Is it May in Cupertino already?
Yeah the OCD in me hated the title
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This construction of Apple Park is a small fraction of Apple’s R&D budget, and even smaller percentage of Apple’s overall financial position. Engineers working on new Apple projects have little to with the construction of Apple Park. In fact Apple Park was built to facilitate better communications between engineering, marketing, R&D with a great working environment. So get down off your hobby horse and take a look at what is really going on.
So a company with $200 billion in the bank spending billions on a building yet giving nothing back to customers (gouging) and the best you can come up with is to tell someone to get off their hobby horse?

Thank you so much.
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November 2016. Apparently it's possible for a company to build a new building while still releasing products.
Have you looked at all the red, grey and amber on this page, not a bit of green in sight: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac apparently contradicts your comment :D
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Pretty sure Apple Park was designed and built using Apple's money.
Where does Apple get its money from?
 
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This construction of Apple Park is a small fraction of Apple’s R&D budget, and even smaller percentage of Apple’s overall financial position. Engineers working on new Apple projects have little to with the construction of Apple Park. In fact Apple Park was built to facilitate better communications between engineering, marketing, R&D with a great working environment. So get down off your hobby horse and take a look at what is really going on.
Posts like this are a tad shortsighted. Every part of a business has a knock on effect on the others. Ok, yes of course these construction workers don't design or build macs but investment/progress in one part of a business has a definite effect on decisions that prevent, (or encourage), investment or movement in another.
 
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