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I'm pretty sure I've seen where the new Apple Store is going in Toronto.

It's in the Yorkdale Mall, in a prime spot and is now covered over with white boards so that you can't see anything.
 
Agathon said:
I'm pretty sure I've seen where the new Apple Store is going in Toronto.

It's in the Yorkdale Mall, in a prime spot and is now covered over with white boards so that you can't see anything.

You're right! Look for #12 on the list in the post before yours. It has been known for a while. If you want to work at the store or just want further confirmation, look at the web page from Apple Store Canada.

If you have a few pics of the spot, why don't you post them?
 
If you have a few pics of the spot, why don't you post them?

Sorry. I don't have a digital camera, or any kind of camera for that matter.

There's not much to see - they've just walled off a large section not far away from the entrance (opposite HMV). I'm pretty sure it must be the Apple Store, as no other spaces are being renovated, and it looks like Fort Knox.

I can't work there, as I am on a student visa in Canada. Besides, I have a PhD to finish. ;)
 
What about the UK? They only have one and that is in Lonon, which is about a 7 hour drive away from me. It is totally unfair that Apple is getting so many hundreds more apple stores in US. The US maybe huge compared to the UK, but still there has to be one made in Scotland
 
Scotland

I live in the US, and the nearest store is still 7 hours away from me.

I think the Apple Store situation in the UK is similar to the situation in the US. The UK has nearly 60 million people, most of whom live in England, so Apple has decided to put its stores in England. Scotland only has about 5 of those 60 million, so they get short shrift.

In the US, we have about 300 million people. California has about 30 million people and nearly that many Apple Stores, which is logical since almost 10% of the US population lives there. Up here in Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc. we probably have about the same number of people as Scotland, or more, and the nearest store is in Las Vegas or Denver which are both more than 7 hours from where I live.

BUT, here in Salt Lake we're about to get an Apple Store, which will put it about 10 minutes from me, and much closer for those in Idaho. So maybe when London has more Apple Stores than the UK equivalent of 7-11 (like LA does), Scotland will get an Apple Store too.
 
I totally agree with you and I hope that an Apple Store is made in Scotland because I think it could boost Apple's sales as well.

I get the feeling that the distribution of Apple stores is very uneven. California is just one state and it has about 20 Apple stores. Europe, a whole continent with many more people than California had only recently got its first in Regent Street, London (London's got more people than the whole of Scotland, but still) California may have tons of people and they may be the nome of Apple headquarters but that does not mean that every Mac person lives in the US, never mind California.

Oh well, an Apple store in Glasgow would be nice, but before that Apple will probably make another few in England, like Birmingham, Manchester and then dozen more in London. Oh well, Life's a ***** and then you die, that's why we get high, cos you never know when your gonna go...
 
California

Just to nitpick, California currently has 24 stores and another 3 on that list of announced stores.
 
aranhamo said:
California has about 30 million people and nearly that many Apple Stores

aranhamo said:
Just to nitpick, California currently has 24 stores and another 3 on that list of announced stores.

Now, which is it? I got a good laugh out of the first. :D

I like your explanation to iCe Cube, but I think he won't have to wait as long as you have in Utah for a store in Edinburgh or Glasgow. There are two more English stores, the Bullring in Birmingham and the Bluewater in Kent, being built as we speak and a Manchester store is likely soon. I've got to believe a store is Scotland will follow shortly.
 
I hope Scotland get one this year. Birmingham is only about a 5-6 hours drive from my house but still, I never go that far just to go to an Apple store unless I was already down south. The weird thing is I live a walkable distance from an Apple (reseller) centre and I live in a fairly small town on the outskirts of Glasgow.

To aranhamo, I got the figures wrong, proving that hundreds of Apple stores are being built in that sunny state at present
 
I hate thinking up relevant titles

Yeah, I thought the line about CA having 30 million stores was pretty funny when I wrote it. It was a proud moment. :)

I actually live literally within about 5 minutes walking distance from the aforementioned Mac Something (or the store formerly known as Alden Media), but it's just not the same as having a real Apple Store nearby. I've been to several of the stores in CA, and they're just so much better than any resellers we have around here. Maybe I'm spoiled for wanting a real Apple Store and complaining so much about it, but I hate it that CompUSA has a better selection of software for Macintosh than any store in the area. I hate going there, but when I need a software title and can't wait for it to be ordered from some internet site, that's where I have to go (although CompUSA has gotten much better than they've been in the past, even though last time I went the giant stepladder was right in the middle of the Mac section again).

There used to be a reseller here that never had anything in stock. I went to buy a computer from them once, and the guy was like, "We don't have any in stock, but I can order one for you." I saw him actually open his browser and go to store.apple.com to order it, and he was going to charge me a premium over and above what I would pay at the Apple online store. I just said nevermind and took off, thinking "You bonehead, if I just wanted to order if off Apple's site, I could do that from home."
 
New Tokyo store

Listings on Apple's local Apple Store web page confirm a rumored opening of a second store in Tokyo. This Apple retail store will be in the Shibuya district of the city. ifoAppleStore had predicted this last Wednesday.

This will be Japan's fourth store and one of at least three previously undisclosed new international locations. In all, according to Apple VP Peter Oppenheimer, their will be 10 stores outside of the US by year's end. We now know 8 of those 10.

Japan
  1. Tokyo - Ginza
  2. Osaka - Shinsaibashi
  3. Nagoya - Nagoya Sakae
  4. Tokyo - Shibuya

United Kingdom
  1. London - Regent Street
  2. Birmingham - Bullring
  3. Kent - Bluewater

Canada
  1. Toronto - Yorkdale
 
Doctor Q said:
Thank goodness! California was in imminent danger of running out of Apple stores! Actually, based on population, it's not silly to have so many in California. But if you live in Montana, I can see how it might be annoying.

Someone should do a map with colored areas based on population, and add the dots for the Apple stores. That would put things in perspective.
 
Three new Apple stores

Although there are yet no individual job openings listed as yet for each site, Apple has posted three new locations on its "Search Jobs" web page for retail stores. New York City's famous Flatiron building, Victor, New York (a suburb of Rochester); and Annapolis, Maryland will see Apple stores this year if the company stays with its 3-6 month timeframe from posting to opening. The Flatiron location was tipped last night by ifoAppleStore, but the other locations have been unknown up to this point.
 
With the new store locations coming so quickly it is hard to keep up, but here is the updated list of impending locations confirmed by Apple's own listings.

  1. South Shore Plaza - Braintree, Massachusetts
  2. Century City - Los Angeles, California
  3. Lincoln Road - Miami Beach, Florida
  4. St. John's Town Center - Jacksonville, Florida
  5. Pioneer Place - Portland, Oregon
  6. The Gardens at Palm Beach - Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
  7. La Cantera - San Antonio, Texas
  8. Green Hills - Nashville, Tennessee
  9. Woodland - Grand Rapids, Michigan
  10. The Woodlands - Houston, Texas
  11. Gateway Mall - Salt Lake City, Utah
  12. Yorkdale - Toronto, Canada
  13. Bluewater - Kent, England
  14. Bullring - Birmingham, England
  15. Crabtree Valley - Raleigh, North Carolina
  16. Bridgeport Village - Tualatin, Oregon
  17. Manhattan Village - Manhattan Beach, California
  18. Penn Square - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
  19. Pentagon City - Arlington, Virginia
  20. Garden State Plaza - Paramus, New Jersey
  21. Northbrook Court - Northbrook, Illinois
  22. Florida Mall - Orlando, Florida
  23. Beverly Center - Los Angeles, California
  24. Shibuya - Tokyo, Japan
  25. Flatiron Building - New York City, New York
  26. Eastview Mall - Victor, New York
  27. Annapolis Mall - Annapolis, Maryland

Please note that with 102 stores open now and the 27 listed above we are already well passed the 125 forecast by CEO Peter Oppenheimer for the end of this year. It would take an incredible slow down of Apple's past building and training process to limit the number of 2005 openings to that prediction. In addition, Oppenheimer predicted 10 international stores by year's end, but we have only 8 locations (4 now open, 4 announced openings) leaving at least two more store to open outside the US this year. So we can now safely say Apple will have at minimum 131 stores open before 2006, with a figure of over 140 very likely.

Last, here is the list of top 20 US metro areas and consolidated metro areas without Apple stores. This is based on the 2000 census and leaves out San Juan, Puerto Rico.

  1. Norfolk/Virginia Beach, Virginia
  2. New Orleans, Louisiana
  3. Greensboro/Winston-Salem, North Carolina
  4. Providence, Rhode Island
  5. Louisville, Kentucky
  6. Greenville/Spartanburg, South Carolina
  7. Dayton, Ohio
  8. Fresno, California
  9. Birmingham, Alabama
  10. Tulsa, Oklahoma
  11. Omaha, Nebraska
  12. Albuquerque, New Mexico
  13. Knoxville, Tennessee
  14. El Paso, Texas
  15. Bakersfield, California
  16. Allentown/Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
  17. Harrisburg/ Lebanon, Pennsylvania
  18. Scranton/ Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
  19. Toledo, Ohio
  20. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
 
I live in Omaha, Nebraska for ten years. So I would be sad if I still lived there. I believe that Kansas City would be the closest. Would be like a trip for Cape Cod fro me now.
 
ifoAppleStore is reporting a upcoming second store for the city of Chicago.

3-2-2005

The North Michigan Avenue (Chicago) store is certainly "downtown," but its location on the Magnificant Mile is north of the city's original and historic State Street shopping district that includes giants Marshall Fields (founded 1902), Sears (1893) and Carson Pirie Scott (1854). The district has experienced a recent retail upswing that includes Old Navy, Nordstrom Rack, Nine West, Lane Bryant, The Body Shop, Borders, some old-time jewelers and many others. Now I hear that Apple intends to join the rush by locating somewhere on State Street during by 2006.

If true this continues a trend of Apple placing multiple locations in major urban centers, as seen in the recent announcements concerning new LA and NYC sites.
 
Sayhey said:
ifoAppleStore is reporting a upcoming second store for the city of Chicago.



If true this continues a trend of Apple placing multiple locations in major urban centers, as seen in the recent announcements concerning new LA and NYC sites.

Is this likely to be a flag ship store Sayhey? The high density like Chicago and Boston should get one just like NYC and Los Angles.
 
wdlove said:
Is this likely to be a flag ship store Sayhey? The high density like Chicago and Boston should get one just like NYC and Los Angles.

They already have one, wdlove, in the North Michigan Ave. store so it is highly unlikely they will get two. Having said that, NYC looks like it just might get two such stores with the already existing Soho store and the upcoming 5th Ave location, so we will have to wait and see.

There is a minor issue of terminology involved in all of this as well. My understanding is there are only three stores designated as "flagship" stores by Apple - Soho, North Michigan, and San Francisco. Apple uses the term "high profile" to describe not only these three stores, but Ginza, Osaka, Regent Street, and The Grove. I think the most important distinction is in the size and prominence of all the high profile locations, not a designation as a flagship store that Apple gives for what looks like purely internal organizational reasons. What you're looking for in Boston is a store of the scope of all of these high profile locations. Sorry, if I've been sloppy in the past with how I've used the terms. Of the upcoming locations confirmed by Apple listings (this doesn't include the States Street or the 5th Ave. sites) the only one that looks to possibly be a high profile store is Lincoln Road in Miami Beach. I'm still waiting to find out just how large that one will be.
 
This New York Times article is of interest to anyone looking for the development of the NYC 5th Avenue store.

By DAVID W. DUNLAP

Published: March 2, 2005
Having failed sadly in its emulation of Rockefeller Center, the plaza opposite the Plaza will now try being more like the Louvre.

By fall, a glass cube 32 by 32 by 32 feet will be set like a jumbo gemstone into the middle of the plaza of the General Motors Building at 767 Fifth Avenue. From the outside, the cube will appear empty. But inside will be a circular glass stairway and a cylindrical elevator leading to a 25,000-square-foot underground space.

In other words, the cube will function like I. M. Pei's Pyramid in the Cour Napoléon of the Louvre: a crystalline marker, a gateway into a subterranean realm. Only the local version will be more transparent - even the structural framework is to be made of glass - and, this being New York in the year 2005, it will usher visitors not to culture but to retail, almost certainly a much larger version of the Apple Computer store in SoHo....

...CBS plans to keep using the plaza, said Michael Bass, senior executive producer for "The Early Show," and is now working out future arrangements. An executive vice president of F.A.O. Schwarz, Kim Richmond, said, "We think that when all the construction is done, it will be quite spectacular."

Apple would not comment. "We have not announced any additional retail locations in New York City at this point," said Katie Cotton, the vice president for corporate communications....

note: a link to this article is also posted over at ifoAppleStore.
 
Jacksonville opening

Apple has officially announced the grand opening of the St. Johns Town Center store on March 18th. This is Florida's seventh store and the first in the Jacksonville area.

For those interested there is also a new page at Apple Japan for those wanting to work at the new Shibuya store.
 
I'd like to fast forward to September 16th so it'd be opening day for the Apple store here. 6 more months of waiting... :(
 
acedickson said:
I'd like to fast forward to September 16th so it'd be opening day for the Apple store here. 6 more months of waiting... :(

Is the September 16th date chosen to coincide with Mexican Independence Day celebrations by any chance? Seems like it might be a big deal in San Antonio.
 
Last time I checked in at Braintree...

HI there-

I live within shouting distance of South Shore Plaza, so I check in rather frequently to see if the Apple Store is any closer to opening. Here is what I noticed:

The Disney Store, which was adjacent to the space that the Apple store is going into, is gone. There is a black facade on the store front with no writing on it. Usually in a Simon-owned mall, there are signs that say "Coming Soon - an exciting new place to shop!" or something similiar. This suggests to me that Apple has taken over the old Disney Store. If this is true, then we must assume that there will be significant delays in the opening of this location due to the fact that they would have to take down the wall between the two stores, and properly remodel the space.

I spoke to the guy at the newsstand which literally faces both store fronts, figuring he might have an idea of how things were going there construction- wise, and he seemed to believe the the completion of the new store is still a long way off.

Hope this info helps.

-JML
 
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