dwrufus53
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One of the main uses of the AppleTV hardware is streaming the subscription AppleTV streaming app.
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Or netflix or max or paramount or youtube or any other -entirely optional- subscription app?
I've used AppleTVs for over 10 years and have never once used content from AppleTV+. I don't agree it is one of the main uses of the hardware.
Either way to imply that a subscription is somehow attached to the hardware is just not really valid. Just like any other app if you want to use it, you can.
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dwrufus53
macrumors 6502a
i dont think saying 'a subscription attached' is an accurate statement, and you did say that.
all subscriptions on the platform are completely optional, therefore not 'attached' at all.
I fear it’s all about iOS 26.4 or 26.5 whichever has the features that they want to show off on the Apple TV & HomePod.
Neither are coming next week and I hate to say neither is those products either.
I’m still stuck on getting a new box,
and truly hope that a HDMI stick comes too.
I fear not.
Benz63amg
macrumors 601
The rumors say a list of new products will be coming next week though such as a cheaper MacBook and maybe a cheaper iPad as well. Don’t you think it’s a good time for them to drop the new Apple TV as well?
The last detailed rumor of a stick was over 2 years ago. It seems that the idea was abandoned. Given there haven't been any leaks on design changes, the current box will likely just be seeing a minor spec bump.
Despite other rumours about Siri enhancements in 26.4 as far as I'm aware the betas of 26.4 that we've seen so far don't have the Gemini-based Siri enhancements - still the same old current generation Siri - and I suspect that Apple wants the Gemini-based Siri ready at least for the HomePod hardware update and very possibly for the Apple TV hardware update as well because current Siri just isn't competitive in today's world so I agree with DJHB1980. My expectations are low that we will see particularly the updated HPM but also probably not the updated ATV this week either.
Other factors are that with a rumoured 3 days of press releases culminating in only a single "Experience" event (duplicated in three locations) there is such a thing as overloading the PR/media/influencer channels with too much stuff all at once so that focus is diluted and some stuff gets very little coverage/attention. I would think that a better strategy for Apple is to hold off from announcing the updated ATV and HPM until they have at least something to demo with the first phase of the Gemini-based Siri roll-out and only then announce the new ATV and HPM hardware and maybe some other smart-home related stuff besides (the rumoured new HomePod with display and maybe also the rumoured security cameras and FaceID doorbell).
I could of course be totally wrong. At least now we only have to wait 4 days to find out.
AI where the new Apple TV will be one of the devices you’ll need to use it, you mean?
Count Blah
macrumors 68040
This AppleTV is replacing an existing AppleTV on the primary TV. Old one would move to the secondary TV. The current one works, so I'm in a bit of a "don't know what I don't know" situation with current capabilities. But one thing I do know is that I will NOT reward Apple by purchasing 4 year old tech being sold as new.
My single purchase isn't going to make an impact, I'm doing it on principle, but it seems I am not the only one taking this approach
Count Blah
macrumors 68040
Yeah, it's great. Especially if you buy in year one. Much less so buying in year five.
I mean, considering the earliest 4th Gen HD 2015 models are still supported I don’t see how anyone rolling Apple doesn’t already have one, but I guess.
has to be A19 Pro or A19 in a box with clear standout hardware & software upgrades.
A18 at least in any stick. N1 obviously in both.
A18 at least in any stick. N1 obviously in both.
As a wild thought I've been wondering whether Apple could use essentially the same electronics for both the next Apple TV and the rumoured A-Series MacBook. Apple should be able to design a motherboard that would fit into an ATV form factor that had the necessary functionality for the laptop (hence definitely enough for an ATV) with the other half of the laptop chassis being taken up by the battery.
The laptop needs to be thin so the PCB would be tracked for things like a network and an HDMI port and in production those wouldn't be picked and placed on the PCB for a laptop board whereas they would for an ATV board and presumably there would be other stuff that differed in terms of components between the ATV and the A-series laptop motherboard (e.g. memory & SSD sizes, keyboard interface etc) but that's basically software on the production line to tell the placement robots what to place or not place depending on what version is being built.
That could also open up another interesting possibility if Apple wanted to attract as many new users as possible to try a Mac by offering even lower priced entry-level systems. If this rumoured A-series MacBook is going to be capable of doing at least an OK job of running MacOS then putting a fully populated version of that same motherboard into a Mac Mini like chassis could also give Apple an even lower cost entry-level MacOS device for people who only wanted a desktop system.
We should know the price of the A-series laptop by Wednesday at the latest and from that it would be interesting to estimate how cheap Apple might be able to make something like an ATV (perhaps this would only be for an ATV Pro model) or a Mac "very-mini" based on that core laptop hardware once you strip out the screen, keyboard, trackpad, battery and substitute a housing that presumably would be cheaper than a hinged laptop chassis.
Zero chance the A19 Pro or A19 will be in the new Apple TV 4K.
If they wanted to do this then they should just throw the IR port back on the Mac Mini and make the TV app on macOS just a little more featured. This would be great - I might be inclined to buy a M4 Mini instead of an AppleTV for the living room.
As it is - I've needed a new ATV for another room for about a year now but keep putting off the purchase. Normally I'll buy the new ATV and then downcycle my existing boxes to where they're needed so I'm hoping we see a refresh this week!
An apple tv a little over $100, a mini is a little under $500. Very different segments they wont put 'real' mac guts in an ATV.
if you want a Mini in your living room, go for it. A FLIRC USB IR dongle is ~$20.
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A19 is completely unnecessary, the current Apple TV is technically already overkill with its A15. tvOS 26 still runs on the A8 chip (2014).
Icehawk
macrumors regular
Dearest mother,
It has been years since I last gazed upon an AppleTV. They seem to be waiting for features that won't matter to release one. It discourages me, but I remain vigilant.
Yours lost,
Meow
It has been years since I last gazed upon an AppleTV. They seem to be waiting for features that won't matter to release one. It discourages me, but I remain vigilant.
Yours lost,
Meow
We're all guessing but my optimism just went up slightly.
Previously I thought there was too much already rumoured for this week and that Apple wouldn't want to dilute things even further with updated ATV and updated HomePod Mini but would instead hold those off until it had something to demonstrate with Gemini-based Siri hence an announcement maybe in April. Now though I'm wondering what might be released today (Tuesday).
Yesterday (Monday) Apple announced the most portable devices - the iPhone and iPad stuff which makes sense to group together - and tomorrow (Wednesday) I suspect Apple might want to end this week's set of releases (culminating in the "Experience" event) with what arguably is the most interesting product which is the A-Series MacBook. If that happens then I think it would make sense to group all of the rumoured MacBook releases into the Wednesday announcement which then leaves me thinking "with the iPad and iPhone announced on Monday and all the MacBook stuff (maybe including new Studio display(s?)) all announced on Wednesday, what does that leave for the Tuesday announcements?" so I'm not thinking that just maybe today (Tuesday) might be when we get to see the new ATV and perhaps the new HomePod Mini as well.
The above is at odds with my previous guesses. I really did think that Apple would wait until it could demo at least something of the updated Siri, and I still have a strong suspicion that might yet be the case but looking at my guesses regarding the sequencing of this week's announcements - the ones already seen and my theory about a MacBook-focussed grand finale on Wednesday - I am now beginning to wonder at least a little bit what might happen today.
kiranmk2
macrumors 68020
I think release really depends on the state of Siri. Whilst it would have been straight forward to have a prerecorded "event" demoing the updated Siri and the new Home features alongside the release of the new Apple TV and HomePod Mini, I think the fallout from a "faked" demo of Apple Intelligence at WWDC a few years ago means Apple are very wary of doing that again. If the software is at a point where they feel confident letting journalists/influencers having a play at the Experience event then there's a very high chance that the Apple TV & Homepod Mini will launch this week. If it is still too buggy to let outsiders test it, then no release.
Of course, they could just release the updated models by themselves, but then I think it loses some of the flair and spectacle of a joined up Apple Home/Siri launch. As time drags on though, maybe they should just get these products out there. We're talking about Siri not being ready until OS 26.5 which will be around June and maybe even pushed back to OS27 in late September. At this point an A17Pro Apple TV and S10 HomePod Mini just look hopelessly outdated (A17Pro dating back to 2023 and S10 based on a chip also from 2023, with both chips being 3 generations old with a September launch).
Of course, they could just release the updated models by themselves, but then I think it loses some of the flair and spectacle of a joined up Apple Home/Siri launch. As time drags on though, maybe they should just get these products out there. We're talking about Siri not being ready until OS 26.5 which will be around June and maybe even pushed back to OS27 in late September. At this point an A17Pro Apple TV and S10 HomePod Mini just look hopelessly outdated (A17Pro dating back to 2023 and S10 based on a chip also from 2023, with both chips being 3 generations old with a September launch).
