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They could allow a USB Ethernet adapter to be used to get Ethernet speeds without putting the connection on a version of the Box
also of use if a Stick actually does get made or more to the point if Apple are capable of making it, which I now doubt.

I do wonder if Apple would ever be able to do what Roku do and make its TVOS capable of running on a TV, could they license it to a TV brand.
Of course it won’t happen because of the economics just don’t work as it’s not a ad laden mess.

For the record TVOS on a TCL/Sony Bravia X (10) RGB LED and/or OLED or both would EASILY be the best TV(s) EVER.
 
I do wonder if Apple would ever be able to do what Roku do and make its TVOS capable of running on a TV, could they license it to a TV brand.
Of course it won’t happen because of the economics just don’t work as it’s not a ad laden mess.

For the record TVOS on a TCL/Sony Bravia X (10) RGB LED and/or OLED or both would EASILY be the best TV(s) EVER.
Personally, I have no interest in a TV with tvOS integrated. I prefer ATV as a separate box for two reasons:
Privacy--I don't trust TV manufacturers to not monitor my usage/private data so I don't allow TVs access to the internet.
Modularity--I can choose the brains and the display I want independently, and I can replace/upgrade either of them without being forced to do so with the other
 
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They removed it from all of their computers, who says they won’t on the Apple
Tv?
They didn't remove it from everything. And the devices that got it removed can use a USB adapter. The Apple TV has no such ability. Like I said, they need to find ways to upcharge for the higher end model so removing it would make it a tough sell.
 
They could allow a USB Ethernet adapter to be used to get Ethernet speeds without putting the connection on a version of the Box
also of use if a Stick actually does get made or more to the point if Apple are capable of making it, which I now doubt.

I do wonder if Apple would ever be able to do what Roku do and make its TVOS capable of running on a TV, could they license it to a TV brand.
Of course it won’t happen because of the economics just don’t work as it’s not a ad laden mess.

For the record TVOS on a TCL/Sony Bravia X (10) RGB LED and/or OLED or both would EASILY be the best TV(s) EVER.
Apple TV + and airplay are already available on 99% of new TVs. If Apple released a stick form factor there’s literally no point, because it wouldn’t be able to run 3rd party apps, which is the entire point of the Apple TV. There’s no stick ever coming because of that
 
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I do wonder if Apple would ever be able to do what Roku do and make its TVOS capable of running on a TV, could they license it to a TV brand.
Of course it won’t happen because of the economics just don’t work as it’s not a ad laden mess.

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I'm not saying it's the same thing at all but just as a point of curiosity/interest, there is already one case that I know of of Apple licensing the entire Apple TV box which includes TVOS of course.

There is a major UK TV provider in the UK - not a TV channel but maybe something more like a cable TV provider in the USA - that has been licensing the Apple TV box (ATV) for some years now. It (EE TV, formerly BT TV) provides all the free TV channels and various optional paid-for channel packages (sports, movies etc) all delivered via IPTV through EE's own interface (e.g. electronic program guide for all of the live TV channels). In the same way that (I assume) you need the providers cable TV box to get cable TV in the USA you need a streaming puck from EE to get its service but there it gets interesting because EE offers either its own very cost-engineered box or you can instead choose to get a 4K Apple TV box (the wired Ethernet A15 Bionic version) when signing up. In both cases EE doesn't charge anything for the box. If you choose the ATV option you get an EE branded box with the EE software locked in some way (MAC-locked maybe) to the specific box that EE provides.

I think it's a really interesting model and I see it as something of a vote of confidence for Apple TV that EE thinks it is enough of an advantage to offer this option that it is willing to fund the price it pays to Apple out of its ongoing subscription fees for the TV service rather than charging extra to choose the ATV option. Honestly I'd be more than happy to pay an extra £50 for the ATV option although since I'm not a customer I don't know if maybe there are other locks on the ATV that EE provides that means it isn't a full ATV box.

I'm currently with one of EE's competitors - Sky TV - and I'm very likely to leave and do everything via individual apps on my not-yet-purchased ATV but if Sky offered the same ATV option as EE Tv I might well be tempted to keep my Sky subscription because one of my biggest complaints with my current Sky service is how appallingly slow and under-powered the streaming puck that Sky provides is.

I have no connection with EE, not even as a customer, but if anyone is interested EE's info page about its ATV option is here - https://ee.co.uk/tv/apple-tv-4k
 
Apple TV + and airplay are already available on 99% of new TVs. If Apple released a stick form factor there’s literally no point, because it wouldn’t be able to run 3rd party apps, which is the entire point of the Apple TV. There’s no stick ever coming because of that
??? First off, Apple isn't making a stick as it seems that rumored died out years ago. But if they were to create a stick, it would run full tvOS with full app support so I am not sure what you are even saying. Plenty of companies sell stick devices that run full OSes with third party app support. Apple would be the same if they sold that form factor.
 
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