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Bros defending this, have you seen what happens to apple cables after 12-18 months? Everyone inevitably needs to buy cables because those ****** things fray and split. Apple putting one in the box from the start saves me the 20 bucks i'll have to spend down the line anyway.
 
Except if you're in the Apple ecosystem, and that's all you use. The only device you're likely to have a USB-C cable for is a higher-level iPad.
Firstly, I have the M1 iPad Pro, and 2020 M1 Air, so I do. But I also have headphones, Drone, batteries, a whole bunch of smart home stuff, and who knows what else. It doesn’t take long to get a suite of products that fit the bill. The last thing I need is another 30cm USB-C cable. In fact I would rather not get any more cables.

The only time I want a cable is when I get a printer because it’s permanently attached, but even then, if I’m upgrading, I don’t want it, because I already have one. I bought one when I bought my last $500 printer because it didn’t come with it.
 
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I want to know why airplanes won’t convert to USB-C from USB-A. I have to carry an extra cable with me just for a long haul just so I can charge my headphones.

Oh the humanity….

Maybe airplanes should provide me with a USB-A to C converter so I can enjoy more experience more.
Frequent flyer, huh? Won’t you please just think of the environment?! :eek::rolleyes:
 
Even some weird snow globe thing my partner bought for our young kid last year from god knows where, came with a usbc cable. You people are nuts 😂
I’ve got two laptops, one from 2013 another from 2014, neither have USB-C. Two iPad Air 2’s, three iPhones (lightning ports), three Apple TV’s (lightning remotes). Anything we have that isn’t Apple (Amazon Echo, for example) has either micro-USB or a proprietary connector. We literally don’t have a USB-C cable. Where are we gonna use it?
 
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Bros defending this, have you seen what happens to apple cables after 12-18 months? Everyone inevitably needs to buy cables because those ****** things fray and split. Apple putting one in the box from the start saves me the 20 bucks i'll have to spend down the line anyway.
Here you go. There are 5 here for a tenner.
 
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Except it doesn't supply a USB-C cable, and doesn't use it to charge, and you're likely to have dongles rather than USB-C to USB-C cables.

Edit: you are technically correct though, I should've clarified that nothing I own uses USB-C to charge.
It does charge with a USB-C though.

Q: Do you have a USB-C cable at all?
 
Bros defending this, have you seen what happens to apple cables after 12-18 months? Everyone inevitably needs to buy cables because those ****** things fray and split. Apple putting one in the box from the start saves me the 20 bucks i'll have to spend down the line anyway.
Think of the environment!*

Environment is now a pseudonym for Apple's profit margin.
 
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This too much. Cable is less than $1 for them.
Unlike lighting cables, I do not have USB C cables laying around my house.
If it’s only $1…maybe they’re not leaving it out to save money? Maybe they legitimately are doing it to cut down on the endless e-waste of unused accessories? I don’t understand how this doesn’t to people making your argument. Like, you have to at least consider the possibility.
 
So when I shove four of them into the back of a drawer somewhere and forget about them, that‘s less wasteful than Apple just including the one I did need in the box to begin with? 🤣
Not particularly, but for those whinging about the economic reason, it shows that you can save the $20 on the aTV and only spend the $10 for the cables.

Fake rage.

Q: Do you already own a USB-C cable?
 
If it’s only $1…maybe they’re not leaving it out to save money? Maybe they legitimately are doing it to cut down on the endless e-waste of unused accessories? I don’t understand how this doesn’t to people making your argument. Like, you have to at least consider the possibility.
They may cost them $1, but they charge us $20 for them. And now people who need one have to buy one and most people probably will buy it from Apple along with the product rather than buying it elsewhere.

So thats a nice fat profit for Apple proving it has NOTHING to do with e-waste or the environment.
 
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They may cost them $1, but they charge us $20 for them. And now people who need one have to buy one and most people probably will buy it from Apple along with the product rather than buying it elsewhere.

So thats a nice fat profit for Apple proving it has NOTHING to do with e-waste or the environment.
ONLY if they buy one.

Q: Do you already own a USB-C type cable? Would you buy one if you bought this aTV?
 
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The price reduction has nothing to do with the cable being excluded, I am sure of that.
So what, they’re reducing the price of the product, irrelevant to the fact the cable is missing; yet money grabbing and blaming the environment by not including the cable? You must be able to see that that makes absolutely no sense.
 
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Don't kid yourself, Apple is doing it for themselves.

If it is self-serving, it isn't for the environment.
Everyone one of the fake rage arguments don’t support what you are saying.

it’s either to cut costs, even though the price drop far exceeds what the cable is worth
no one here has stated they don’t have a single USB-C cable
no one here has said how it wouldn’t help the environment by having less redundant, and excess cables stuck in the back of their drawer.
 
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Not particularly, but for those whinging about the economic reason, it shows that you can save the $20 on the aTV and only spend the $10 for the cables.

Fake rage.

Q: Do you already own a USB-C cable?
Okay, so now that your petty environmental arguments have fallen through, let’s debunk the even more putrid economic ones. $10 is but a drop in the bucket for me or your average everyday working-class American but the wholesale prices paid by Apple to manufacture/acquire their proprietary, previously-bundled cables is not even an atom.

So the alternate reality I pose is: What if Apple simply included the cable along with the price cut? Some backlash would’ve been avoided; it’s in fact likely that largely positive media and customer press would have come their way. But I guess pinching those additional pennies is worth the sour taste these kinds of moves leave in much of the public’s mouth.

A: None of your business.
 
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