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I agree with your main point about popularity, but I don't agree with your reasoning. If Apple sold the exact same box at $199 with the inclusion of the Apple ecosystem it would sell like hot cakes. The issue isn't the price for performance. Apple sells (or will sell) a $199 box that can't come close to the performance of the $199 Shield (16gb version, but can easily and cheaply be expanded thanks to the micro SD slot).

Also a $449 gaming machine vs $199 4K media console that happens to also be great for gaming isn't really much of a comparison. I think the gaming machine, that costs more than twice as much as the Shield, would be even more of a niche product at that price.

The problem, as far as sales #s are concerned, is the lack of press and the lack of a mature ecosystem. However, sales #s had nothing to do with why I bought one. It does 4K, audio pass through, has Kodi, has easy expandability thanks to the microSD slot, it will sideload apps like Lynda.com and Dropbox, play high resolution tif files (important for my photos), works with Casting, works with Airplay audio, work with DLNA, will play audio through USB, has a remote with a headphone port, voice search, will work with 4K video shot on my iPhone, etc. The power makes it a joy to use because things load quickly. It is more future proof than the 1080p boxes that Apple is bringing out to replace their last 1080p box.

I will still get an AppleTV because of the ecosystem and because it has promise. However, if I had to choose one, it would be the Shield and I would live with the slower AppleTV3 since it already has a huge App Store available thanks to AirPlay and already works well in the Apple ecosystem. The main downside is lack of speed, but it hasn't stopped me from using it over the past several years. I still think the AppleTV will sell more units than the Shield, but I don't care.

You spec lust on the Nvidia is fogging your perspective. The Nvidia Shield is not much of a gaming machine and it's an overpriced smart TV box. The easy access to content built in to the FireTV and AppleTV will brick NVidias sales within the next year as it loses out to slightly more expensive Steam boxes (and Xbox, Playstation) that can support Oculus Rift VR headsets and to the lower priced smart tv boxes that will offer some amazing looking games that will surprise people.

Content rules.

Apple's "Metal" gaming language will wring out some great looking games on an optimized CPU on AppleTV. Nintendo has already announced they are stepping into the iOS space with iPad, iPhone and AppleTV games. They see the profit potential and the capabilities.

GungHo, who Nintendo is partnering with (as well as DeNA) for mobile game development, has made over $1 billion on a single mobile game on iOS!

Path of least resistance. Ease of use.

Amazon and Apple will be the clear leaders in the smart tv box and lower end gaming space because of great User Interface and tight relationships with content and app providers.

NVidia Shield's (and Roku's) days are numbered by just those clear to see facts.
 
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I do not see whats the fuss about 4k is, when there is currently no Blu Ray content yet!. I guess Apple is waiting for the media content to go mainstream they are always late adopters. Hopefully when Apple will join the 4k bandwagon they will wow us and make there 4k digital content more eye popping with better support for home theatre systems, that will blow away Netflix and the other competition.

I have been living without 4k just fine, and my iMac is a non retina with an nvidia 4gb card and i could not be more happier. I have a lot riding on Apple ecosystem in terms of movies and tv shows. So when Apples joins the 4K I will opt to change my TV and opt for a retina iMac. On my part there is no hurry here, the new Apple TV has plenty to wow Apple Fans especially the integration of the App Store.

All video camera's sold in 2015 are 4K, most of even photocamera's can film in 4K and even the new Iphone films in 4K! And what does Apple wants us to do with all of our 4K content???? To launch a streamer in 2015 WITHOUT 4K is more then ridicilous. a 200% price raise for the new apple tv is even more ridicilous. Whats new on the new apple tv? Siri? Only in the us, not for the rest of the world. Yes you can buy games! But thats only good news for apple!! They take 30% of all sales without having to work for it. That is the new apple. Make money instead of inovate.
 
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Then wait until the next AppleTV5 with 4K. I won't though.

HD iTunes movies look nearly as good as Bluray unless you sit 4 inches from your flatscreen TV. And in the meantime I'll enjoy the explosion of apps on the AppleTV4.

4K is a nice thing, but sit back a few feet from the TV and you won't notice if it's 4K or Bluray. Get over the obsessive fixation on 4K. It will come to all devices in time.

Your 30% of Apple's take is totally wrong. It was changed to 15%. Apple is the world's #1 company because people like their products, thoughtful (not trendy) innovation, ease of use and quality. All worth every penny.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...evenue-share-to-15-for-apple-tv-apps---report

I've saved money by ditching cable and utilizing AppleTV with Youtube, Netflix and Hulu+ along with iTunes purchases (TV and movies) and still saved big over the $85/month I was paying to the cable pirates. So you are dead wrong on Apple overcharging for it's services. I save big by embracing AppleTV. God knows I don't miss commercials every 10 minutes!!

I buy hundreds of dollars of iTunes cards during the Xmas holiday because I buy $50 dollar iTunes cards at 20-25% discounts from Best Buy, again allowing me to purchase iTune movies, music and TV for a big discount even over Amazon digital. Another discount and big win for me.

Apple is a big win for me and you too.
 
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Not going to get a 4 K TV anytime soon because:

1. HDTV just fine now. Waste of money on new one -Too much money
2. 4K content very sparse to say the least, and will take years for it to mature
3. Apple will upgrade new offering within two years perhaps anyway

So, why the bragging OP on your first and only post ?
 
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I agree with your main point about popularity, but I don't agree with your reasoning. If Apple sold the exact same box at $199 with the inclusion of the Apple ecosystem it would sell like hot cakes. The issue isn't the price for performance. Apple sells (or will sell) a $199 box that can't come close to the performance of the $199 Shield (16gb version, but can easily and cheaply be expanded thanks to the micro SD slot).

Also a $449 gaming machine vs $199 4K media console that happens to also be great for gaming isn't really much of a comparison. I think the gaming machine, that costs more than twice as much as the Shield, would be even more of a niche product at that price.

The problem, as far as sales #s are concerned, is the lack of press and the lack of a mature ecosystem. However, sales #s had nothing to do with why I bought one. It does 4K, audio pass through, has Kodi, has easy expandability thanks to the microSD slot, it will sideload apps like Lynda.com and Dropbox, play high resolution tif files (important for my photos), works with Casting, works with Airplay audio, work with DLNA, will play audio through USB, has a remote with a headphone port, voice search, will work with 4K video shot on my iPhone, etc. The power makes it a joy to use because things load quickly. It is more future proof than the 1080p boxes that Apple is bringing out to replace their last 1080p box.

I will still get an AppleTV because of the ecosystem and because it has promise. However, if I had to choose one, it would be the Shield and I would live with the slower AppleTV3 since it already has a huge App Store available thanks to AirPlay and already works well in the Apple ecosystem. The main downside is lack of speed, but it hasn't stopped me from using it over the past several years. I still think the AppleTV will sell more units than the Shield, but I don't care.


I'll admit there was a point, when the Shield was first announced that I almost convinced myself I was going to buy one.
But ultimately it just didn't excite me in the end, maybe if I didn't already have 3 current gen consoles and a computer to play the kind of game Nvidia is pushing as a main feature it would have been different. Sure it can do 4K but for many of us 4K just isn't a selling point yet, I have a good TV that cost a lot of money and for once I'm not jumping on the bandwagon for a better picture I barely notice from where I sit (and yes, I've done my share of watching a 4K set.) When the technology matures a bit and there's more content I'll think about upgrading, but I've made the mistake of upgrading too early too many times before. So clearly I'm not their target market, but there will definitely be one, it's good hardware.

So 4K aside, I don't see the need for Kodi unless you absolutely must watch stolen channel streams, there are plenty of alternatives to play your own media, Plex for example will be on the new ATV. The ATV does play tiff files, DLNA isn't an issue, there will definitely be options for that, just as there is on iOS just now. Casting? Well some of us use Apple hardware and don't need that.
The only time I can ever say I use audio over usb is for my flac transfers of my vinyl and that's why I've got an amp with that capability, cut out the middle man. Don't need headphones on a remote you can use Bluetooth or the headphone socket on your amp/tv for that (I've genuinely never seen the point of some cheap, low quality headphone port on remotes) the Apple TV also has voice search and the interface in general is an absolute joy to use, very polished, very fast.
And so on and so on, blah, blah, blah.

I'm not being argumentative, just highlighting the whole, everyone is different and theres, thankfully, a choice for us all.

Personally I'm far more excited by what will happen with the AppStore on the ATV than any other feature and having tried every other streaming option (bar the Shield) more so than that of the other set top boxes.

Not to mention that I feel secure with a purchase from Apple that support for it it's not going to disappear overnight. Fire Phone? The original Google TV? Nexus Q? to name just three, how long did they last before support for them was unceremoniously dropped?
Even without an AppStore, without supporting many of the streaming services, without much support for local media playback or Plex or many more things the Apple TV still managed to shift more than 20 million units globally. That's a number that gives me confidence in my purchase.


****I've not had my medication yet this morning, so god knows how much of that above makes sense, I'm taking no responsibility for the likely tons of spelling mistakes :D

All video camera's sold in 2015 are 4K, most of even photocamera's can film in 4K and even the new Iphone films in 4K! And what does Apple wants us to do with all of our 4K content???? To launch a streamer in 2015 WITHOUT 4K is more then ridicilous. a 200% price raise for the new apple tv is even more ridicilous. Whats new on the new apple tv? Siri? Only in the us, not for the rest of the world. Yes you can buy games! But thats only good news for apple!! They take 30% of all sales without having to work for it. That is the new apple. Make money instead of inovate.


Incidentally Google also takes a 30% cut without having to work for it, just saying. And Siri definitely works in the UK and Spain and France and Japan and... well you get the idea

Then wait until the next AppleTV5 with 4K. I won't though.

HD iTunes movies look nearly as good as Bluray unless you sit 4 inches from your flatscreen TV. And in the meantime I'll enjoy the explosion of apps on the AppleTV4.

4K is a nice thing, but sit back a few feet from the TV and you won't notice if it's 4K or Bluray. Get over the obsessive fixation on 4K. It will come to all devices in time.

Your 30% of Apple's take is totally wrong. It was changed to 15%. Apple is the world's #1 company because people like their products, thoughtful (not trendy) innovation, ease of use and quality. All worth every penny.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...evenue-share-to-15-for-apple-tv-apps---report

I've saved money by ditching cable and utilizing AppleTV with Youtube, Netflix and Hulu+ along with iTunes purchases (TV and movies) and still saved big over the $85/month I was paying to the cable pirates. So you are dead wrong on Apple overcharging for it's services. I save big by embracing AppleTV. God knows I don't miss commercials every 10 minutes!!

I buy hundreds of dollars of iTunes cards during the Xmas holiday because I buy $50 dollar iTunes cards at 20-25% discounts from Best Buy, again allowing me to purchase iTune movies, music and TV for a big discount even over Amazon digital. Another discount and big win for me.

Apple is a big win for me and you too if you'd wake up to the facts.



I'm pretty sure the 15% thing doesn't apply to us (developers.) we still get a 30% cut from AppSales, which is fine by me.
 
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The 15% stated in the article was for streaming services, not apps. Apple takes 15% of sales of Netflix and Hulu Plus ONLY if they are subscribed to from within Apple iOS apps. I have Netflix, that I still watch on all my iOS devices, but pay direct to Netflix. Apple does't get a cut that way.

My viewing is still the same as the people that pay for Netflix and HuluPlus through the apps using iTunes.

Watch for the next round of multi-millionaire iOS developers that port to the AppleTV4. Instant millionaires for those that sell well. Heck DeNA, mobile game developer, made over a billion in iOS sales already…that's BILLION with a "B"!!!!
 
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The 15% stated in the article was for streaming services, not apps. Apple takes 15% of sales of Netflix and Hulu Plus ONLY if they are subscribed to from within Apple iOS apps. I have Netflix, that I still watch on all my iOS devices, but pay direct to Netflix. Apple does't get a cut that way.

My viewing is still the same as the people that pay for Netflix and HuluPlus through the apps using iTunes.


Yeah I knew that's what you'd be meaning, just thought before anyone else started shouting about Apple still taking 30% for apps, I would mention it :D

I actually don't see why Apple shouldn't get some sort of percentage for people subscribing in-app. That's a customer the service might not otherwise have had. And really it's pretty standard these days. At least it's honest, how much money do we see from the revenue companies like Google and Facebook make from spying on us :D
 
I'll admit there was a point, when the Shield was first announced that I almost convinced myself I was going to buy one.
But ultimately it just didn't excite me in the end, maybe if I didn't already have 3 current gen consoles and a computer to play the kind of game Nvidia is pushing as a main feature it would have been different. Sure it can do 4K but for many of us 4K just isn't a selling point yet, I have a good TV that cost a lot of money and for once I'm not jumping on the bandwagon for a better picture I barely notice from where I sit (and yes, I've done my share of watching a 4K set.) When the technology matures a bit and there's more content I'll think about upgrading, but I've made the mistake of upgrading too early too many times before. So clearly I'm not their target market, but there will definitely be one, it's good hardware.
Yes, one of the main features of the Shield is 4k capabilities. If you have no interest in 4k, then you would have one less reason to buy a Shield.

If you don't see a difference, I am not sure what difference it makes if there is more content? If you can't see a difference, more content won't resolve that issue.

So 4K aside, I don't see the need for Kodi unless you absolutely must watch stolen channel streams, there are plenty of alternatives to play your own media, Plex for example will be on the new ATV.
I am not a Plex expert, but the last time I looked into it, Plex needed a host media server. Is that still the case? Kodi can simply access the files on a network attached drive. Also, for me, Plex can be a mess. For example, I had a special disc of outtakes in a DVD package and even though all those files were in one folder, Plex read every single outtake as a separate movie and somehow named them (incorrectly) in the interface. I am sure there is some way to clean this stuff up, but I would rather just grab the files off a clearly named folder and play them...which is what Kodi does.

The ATV does play tiff files, DLNA isn't an issue, there will definitely be options for that, just as there is on iOS just now. Casting? Well some of us use Apple hardware and don't need that.
The main benefit to Casting over Airplay is that it typically gets the stream directly from the client. This means that if I want to stream Vudu, I can start the movie and turn my phone off. With Airplay, if I want to stream from Vudu, the movie stops when I get a call. I like having both Airplay and Casting available because they aren't the same.

I'm not being argumentative, just highlighting the whole, everyone is different and theres, thankfully, a choice for us all.
Where did I mention that there was one option for all? I specifically said that I plan to also get an AppleTV (I have three AppleTVs now).

My main point was that the Nvidia Shield does things now that the AppleTV can't do and won"t do and the fact that you and others are perfectly content with whatever Apple brings you is perfectly fine with me. As a matter of fact, a lot of people won't need the new AppleTV because their old AppleTVs already do everything they want to do.

My dad has a Roku because he doesn't own an Apple device or use any Apple services. I don't think he will want an AppleTV or a FireTV when Roku does everything he needs (mainly Netflix and Amazon Prime).

I am also aware that there will be even more people that are happy without any of these boxes, as well.

Not to mention that I feel secure with a purchase from Apple that support for it it's not going to disappear overnight. Fire Phone? The original Google TV? Nexus Q? to name just three, how long did they last before support for them was unceremoniously dropped?
I guess you did't buy a first gen iPad?


I want to restate my main point, since people will quote one or two things out of context. I am buying an AppleTV, despite my disappointment with the lack of 4k, because it is part of the Apple ecosystem and I use an iPhone, iPad, and Macs. That doesn't mean that the Shield is worthless to me. It does 4k, which is its main selling point. (I actually waited for Apple's announcement before buying it. If the AppleTV had 4k, I may not own one right now. However, I realize I would have been missing out on many more features than just the 4k abilities.)
 
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I think the Nvidia Shield is Dead On Arrival.

It pricier than the low level game smart TV boxes like AppleTV4, FireTV, etc., and offers less speed and games than the full fledged Steam game boxes like Alienware starting around $449. It's the worst of all worlds and lives in an in between space that no one is asking for.

I'm betting that Amazon FireTV and AppleTV win out over the next year solely based upon content offerings. This is the year the set top smart boxes start to mature and people expect more without having to hack their boxes.

Well you are certainly entitled to your beliefs. I think it is a bit premature to decide what is dead on arrival. Let's see how the marketing game plays. If/when a new Shield comes out in 2016, the price of this one will most likely drop. Incidentally, you failed to compare the Shield to the ATV for games. Shield by shear power is more capable. For streaming and other matters, its all about the offerings and of course, if one is investing in 4k or not. I'll just say again, if one is not into the Apple eco system (iTunes), there is little reason to have an ATV as both Fire TV and Shield give us more power for games and is expanding their offerings for media access. I admit I am curious how the Roku 4 will fair since it really (at this time) doesn't do much with respect to games. I am lucky as I am not a gamer.
 
Yes, one of the main features of the Shield is 4k capabilities. If you have no interest in 4k, then you would have one less reason to buy a Shield.

If you don't see a difference, I am not sure what difference it makes if there is more content? If you can't see a difference, more content won't resolve that issue.


I am not a Plex expert, but the last time I looked into it, Plex needed a host media server. Is that still the case? Kodi can simply access the files on a network attached drive. Also, for me, Plex can be a mess. For example, I had a special disc of outtakes in a DVD package and even though all those files were in one folder, Plex read every single outtake as a separate movie and somehow named them (incorrectly) in the interface. I am sure there is some way to clean this stuff up, but I would rather just grab the files off a clearly named folder and play them...which is what Kodi does.

The main benefit to Casting over Airplay is that it typically gets the stream directly from the client. This means that if I want to stream Vudu, I can start the movie and turn my phone off. With Airplay, if I want to stream from Vudu, the movie stops when I get a call. I like having both Airplay and Casting available because they aren't the same.


Where did I mention that there was one option for all? I specifically said that I plan to also get an AppleTV (I have three AppleTVs now).

My main point was that the Nvidia Shield does things now that the AppleTV can't do and won"t do and the fact that you and others are perfectly content with whatever Apple brings you is perfectly fine with me. As a matter of fact, a lot of people won't need the new AppleTV because their old AppleTVs already do everything they want to do.

My dad has a Roku because he doesn't own an Apple device or use any Apple services. I don't think he will want an AppleTV or a FireTV when Roku does everything he needs (mainly Netflix and Amazon Prime).

I am also aware that there will be even more people that are happy without any of these boxes, as well.

I guess you did't buy a first gen iPad?


I want to restate my main point, since people will quote one or two things out of context. I am buying an AppleTV, despite my disappointment with the lack of 4k, because it is part of the Apple ecosystem and I use an iPhone, iPad, and Macs. That doesn't mean that the Shield is worthless to me. It does 4k, which is its main selling point. (I actually waited for Apple's announcement before buying it. If the AppleTV had 4k, I may not own one right now. However, I realize I would have been missing out on many more features than just the 4k abilities.)


Well firstly, I said barely see a difference, not don't and thats more due to the distance I sit from my TV than anything else, naturally the closer you get the more apparent the difference. By the time there's an abundance of content 4K TV's, especially at the high end will be the standard, it's already happening now so not buying one will be almost impossible.

Everyone has their preference with media serving, I just like Plex because it's straightforward and does transcoding if I want to watch on a mobile device with a less than optimum connection. As it is, none of my NAS drives offer that, so it's personal preference. I've never had an issue with it mis-managing my rips. But I spend time making sure they are properly organised so that could be why

Casting, Airplay makes no difference to me which one, I have devices capable of both but regardless of which one I'm using I pause playback when I take a call anyway. But yeah, I know what your saying.


And yes, I did buy a first Gen iPad, I'm an Apple boy of course I did ;)
 
Talk about content beamed into the old noggin'. I'm looking forward to VR headsets like the Oculus Rift coming out later this year. It might be too much to ask to have AppleTV feature VR headsets, since VR needs a a lot of CPU horsepower to run.
 
All video camera's sold in 2015 are 4K, most of even photocamera's can film in 4K and even the new Iphone films in 4K! And what does Apple wants us to do with all of our 4K content???? To launch a streamer in 2015 WITHOUT 4K is more then ridicilous. a 200% price raise for the new apple tv is even more ridicilous. Whats new on the new apple tv? Siri? Only in the us, not for the rest of the world. Yes you can buy games! But thats only good news for apple!! They take 30% of all sales without having to work for it. That is the new apple. Make money instead of inovate.

4K is still in its infancy. All the 4K electronics out there now is aimed straight at consumer's pocket books. As another poster said: you have fallen prey to manufactured spec lust.
 
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So here's the thing: Sure, there isn't a lot of 4K content by percentage, but it is coming, and a heck of a lot faster than a New Apple TV if history is any lesson. As someone else mentioned, Netflix is a pretty popular "channel."

Now, suppose I or you DO go out and buy a 4K TV (my old one self-destructs or is stolen by aliens). Now I have a 4K TV. 4K blu-ray players land this holiday with a few disks, and most of those will have Netflix if my new TV doesn't own its own. Either way, I start looking at 4K content, but not in the Apple ecosystem. How long until I start spending more of my time using the TV or some other media player to view my movies?

I have no small number of movies and TV shows on iTunes (cord cutter and all), but I really like 4K over 1080P. Maybe some people can't tell the difference. I sure can, and I want the best content I can get.

Also, 4K is enough resolution to provide decent 3D if you like that.
 
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4K is fantastic I agree, but…

In order for 4K streaming delivery to take hold, the net providers are going to have to eliminate the data caps. You already have posters here saying they are hitting their data caps just using 4K Netflix alone. We are a long way from streaming 4K adoption unless the net providers embrace it. Apple has some time yet.
 
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AppleTV4 will have a larger developer database with quality and quantity, just like on the iPhone.

Plex is already announced for the new AppleTV and the support of consumer products beyond the apps support will be just as big as for the iPhone.
Just because the ATV4 will have quantity does not guarantee quality. Just look at the iPhone and iPad App store offerings - the vast majority of it is junk and fluff, exactly what fans said would never happen.

And yes Plex has announced they are working on an app but that is certainly no guarantee that it will ever be admitted to the App store. Only time will tell.

At this point the ATV4 is most definitely a wait and see device, especially with the early reviews on here that indicate it is really nothing more than an ATV3 with a new skin on the GUI. I have an ATV3 and use it daily but I don't expect to upgrade anytime soon based on what I have see thus far.
 
The next version will be 4K. I doubt they enable it in this version, knowing Apple of late

The next version will be 4K, in order to entice people to buy it again next year, knowing Apple of always.
 
Just because the ATV4 will have quantity does not guarantee quality. Just look at the iPhone and iPad App store offerings - the vast majority of it is junk and fluff, exactly what fans said would never happen.

And yes Plex has announced they are working on an app but that is certainly no guarantee that it will ever be admitted to the App store. Only time will tell.

At this point the ATV4 is most definitely a wait and see device, especially with the early reviews on here that indicate it is really nothing more than an ATV3 with a new skin on the GUI. I have an ATV3 and use it daily but I don't expect to upgrade anytime soon based on what I have see thus far.


That's just it, if you have no interest in the AppStore on the new Apple TV and are happy with the streaming options available on the ATV 3, there probably isn't a huge reason to upgrade. One thing I do wonder though is if Apple will be locking it to 1080p output in the firmware, as they often do with these things, after all the hardware is technically capable of playing 4K content, but that's neither here nor there I suppose.

The focus with the new Apple TV is definitely the AppStore, which it doesn't have yet, so early reviews can really only be based on iTunes and any development the individual may be doing themselves.

As far as things like Plex go, well as you say they have said they want it on there. But truth is, until it happens we don't know. Playing devils advocate for a moment, it could be the reason the Apple TV AppStore requires seperate submissions to iOS is to prevent apps like Plex getting a foothold. I doubt it, but no one outside of Apple knows for certain at this point.
 
The next version will be 4K, in order to entice people to buy it again next year, knowing Apple of always.

If iTunes does not have 4K content, the next Apple TV will not be 4K. The most they might do is support HDMI 2.0 standard.
 
The next version will be 4K, in order to entice people to buy it again next year, knowing Apple of always.

If iTunes does not have 4K content, the next Apple TV will not be 4K. The most they might do is support HDMI 2.0 standard.
 
Just to add evidence to my point in post #68 above that AppleTV4 is far from obsolete regarding 4K.

Sprint Will Start Throttling Customers That Use More Than 23 GB a Month

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ers-that-use-more-than-23-gb-a-month.1929458/

4K streaming video is far from being adopted now in this climate of data caps. Apple has some time to sort their 4K offerings out yet.

Personally I hope the 4K on DVD comes out yet this year. That seems to be a more realistic delivery device, where you download the digital file to your computer to play in iTunes or other. I do wonder how compressed 4K is going to be on DVD though.
 
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Just to add evidence to my point in post #68 above that AppleTV4 is far from obsolete regarding 4K.

Sprint Will Start Throttling Customers That Use More Than 23 GB a Month

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ers-that-use-more-than-23-gb-a-month.1929458/

4K streaming video is far from being adopted now in this climate of data caps. Apple has some time to sort their 4K offerings out yet.

Personally I hope the 4K on DVD comes out yet this year. That seems to be a more realistic delivery device, where you download the digital file to your computer to play in iTunes or other. I do wonder how compressed 4K is going to be on DVD though.
I think there is currently a difference between mobile and what most people are using for their main service at home.

However, Comcast has a 300GB data allotment on their home internet right now. I have gone over it once when I turned on an app that backed up my photos to the cloud. They sent me three emails to tell me the percentage I had left. I went out to their site and I believe you could go over 4 times in a year before they started charging extra.

That being said, I believe they will change their ways as 4k is more widely adopted. According to this article, there is not a technical reason for the "caps" and they could get more scrutiny under the FCC:

"Late last year, the US Government Accountability Office urged the FCC to examine data caps closely, saying that providers who face little competition may abuse caps to impose higher prices on consumers."
 
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