The screen of my LG OLED TV is like 3mm or so thick, no way I would clip anything in there.
For me tbh, a built in camera would be a negative, I’d likely put duck tape over it.
We do FT calls and the phone or iPad are just fine for that… YMMV
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For me tbh, a built in camera would be a negative, I’d likely put duck tape over it.
We do FT calls and the phone or iPad are just fine for that… YMMV
If you want people to start utilizing gaming you'll need larger drive capacities alone and put in an AI capable M series processor or stop talking about the Apple Games on the AppleTV experience. So whatever the new AI enabled A series going into the iPhone SE must be the baseline for the AppleTV 2025.
Yes, you're right, they do, but there are other apps involved and towards the end of the original 4K box, it started getting laggy when opening and closing apps. I'd imagine that same thing could happen with this device, so it's a good time for them to introduce a new model, with more of their in-house hardware, and continue to improve performance.
Yeah the camera thing is a novelty, I don't see many folks clamoring for that.
I do like the idea of putting ample storage in the thing so you could download content.
On that note, Comcast is still being naughty with not even allowing the ATV4K to work for Xfinity internet subscribers with variations of NowTV and like, only Xfinity TV subscribers or using their inferior rental Xumo set-top-box. You can see the exclusion to the Apple4K in this listing. Yes if you run the verification with your phone to activate device, it will fail. Work around is Airplay 2 via iPhone/Ipad/Mac .
Supported devices:
- Computer:
- Browsers including Safari, Google Chrome, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge
- Mobile:
- Amazon Fire tablets: Fire OS 6.0 or above required; Stream app version 7.4.1 or above required
- Android phones and tablets: Android OS version 7.0 or above required; Stream app version 7.4.1 or above required
- iPhones and iPads: iOS version 14.0 or above required; Stream app version 7.8.0 or above required
- TV:
- Xumo Stream Box from Xfinity: Stream app version 2.2.0 or above required
- Amazon Fire TV: Fire OS 6.0 or above required; Stream app version 7.4.1 or above required
- Roku: Roku OS 8.0 or above required; Stream app version 8.0 or above required
- Plus, you can cast to any device capable of supporting:
- Chromecast
- Chromecast 1st gen, Chromecast 2nd gen, Chromecast 3rd gen
- Chromecast 4th gen (Chromecast with Google TV)
- Chromecast Ultra Google Nest Hub
- AirPlay: iOS version 14.0 or above required
- Chromecast
Thank god you’re not a product manager. What a mess of a product you’re suggesting here.
The problem with granting that is ATV4K is a licensed HDCP HDMI source. It's like comparing a 4K blu-ray player to a 4K media player. One is capable of playing all forms of DRM protected streaming media and the other is not licensed so it can play more forms of media and lossless audio. If the VoD hosts change their respective audio specs then Apple should reciprocate for future ATV4K implementation. Additionally I think that more basic audio codecs should be supported by the ATV4K whatever they can make work within DRM boundaries. Go beyond the lossless ACC stuff.
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I don't think they'd integrate something like that anyway, because of cost. If they produced that, maybe it could be a separate add-on, for say $49.99. But like I said, I have no interest at all in this... and therein lies the problem. If it's an add-on with low demand, there won't be much point for Apple to make it.
Such cameras can also sit on the TV stand.
BTW, today I learned that duct tape in fact did actually used to be called duck tape. Then it changed and everyone called it duct tape, and then a company trademarked it so there is now a Duck brand duct tape.
The ironic thing though is HVAC experts always say you should never use duct tape on ducts.
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2 of those features were in prior AppleTV, including the original model designed by the Lord Jobs himself.
The third- the camera option- is just a better extra vs. build it into the case and then not working for many people who place the box somewhere other than dead center above or below the TV.
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I think we can all suffer with the current iPhone pairing with ATV4K for FaceTime example, at least with that you get centerstage tracking. But the thought of clipping something onto the LG OLED screen would be like see a huge screen with a notch!
Apple better not limit thread networking to the top end storage model next time, dick move doing that on the current generation. 64GB would have been enough for me as 100% of my content is streamed, but I needed thread, so as usual Apple forced me to pay a high cost for no reason other than their greed.
Did Apple say that they wanted to make a sub-$100 Apple TV? Just a question... I think they should make a couple of products - one with a camera for those of us who want to get off the couch and game or do FaceTime. Will need the higher RAM, A18 chip, and other specs. It would be fun to have Apple Intellegence in the living room and better control out of my smart home. I am willing to spend a bit more to get those things. For those who just want to watch TV, hopefully they will make a stick that does the basics. If you want something cheaper than that, just buy something else...
Yes. The 4K 1st gen Apple TV is slow. YMMV, but I found it irritating to navigate, partially because occasionally there would be pauses during switching apps or what not after extended use. It think it may be a combination of the 3 GB RAM and the older CPU, without great multi-threaded support for OS navigation type usage. Plus the 4K 1st gen Apple TV has that horrible remote. I ended up buying the updated remote that came out with the 4K 2nd gen.
My 4K 3rd generation is much faster, making it much more pleasant to navigate the OS. No more such pause. Think trying to use an iPad 7 in 2024 vs an iPad 10. The iPad 7 is definitely usable, but it just can't keep up with the iPad 10, even just for basic usage. The speed of OS navigation without those pauses, and the much better remote are good reasons to upgrade.
However, at this point I'd just wait until 2025 for the 4K 4th generation if you already have suffered this long with the 4K 1st generation.
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For my setup, the ATV would create a notch at the bottom
Of the screen, not enough space
Yes, you have no support of VP9 for 4K HDR YouTube content on ATV4K 1st gen. Also the navigation speed of the GUI is noticeable slower compared to 2nd gen and 3rd gen. Storage is an another factor, all video apps use their own caching, more storage for a lot more screensavers to rotate through as you go up from 32GB -> 64GB -> 128GB. There are now video matching changes only available on 3rd gen such as several aspect ratios to support.
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My request is to have the UI run at 120hz. Xbox does it and it's hard to go back to 60. Many TV's support high refresh rates, and 120 plays nicely with 24/30/60.
There's no technical reason why that can't happen, and yet... it won't happen. 😥
That necessitates M3, M4 or A17 Pro, or A18 up. (Hardware based AV1 decoding). But with any of that you gain significant GPU improvements like hardware ray-tracing. AV1 is not the preferred video codec that Youtube uses for 4K, more like 8K that I seen with different browsers. Comparing Windows/Mac browsers. You enable AV1 and still see nerd hud details using VP9 predominately with 4K, blame Google aka Alphabet for not advancing AV1.