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New Apple TV With A12 Chip or Later Uncovered in tvOS 13.4 Beta

ckelley said:
I know Apple hates Google these days, but I would really hope they add VP9 support in hardware or even software at this point. YouTube has got to be one of their most popular apps, missing out on 4K content with the Apple TV is annoying. If I want to watch something in 4K, my TV has Chromecast built in and supports it, so I have to go that route.
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Can't see that that is much of a thing. https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/h-265-vs-vp9-4k-video-codes-explained-2920862. Seems HEVC (of which VP9 is a derivative) seems to be widely supported
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zorinlynx said:
The sad thing is VP9 is royalty free so there's really no reason for it to not be supported. It's simply Apple being stubborn like they tend to be at times about these things.
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or the worse picture quality
 
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profets said:
Kind of crazy when you think about the dongle type solutions that can do 4K and have all sorts of apps. Though I'm sure they don't have the processing power that an TV has.
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Those dongle style media players are slow as hell for everything except the actual video decoding. They have as little CPU power as they can get away with and thus don't have a very good user experience.

This is one thing that's kept me using an ATV; the user interface and responsiveness is worlds ahead of pretty much everything else, even including media players built into smart TVs where you'd expect there not to be a tight power/thermal budget.
 
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redneckitengineer said:
I use my 4th gen non 4K and it’s perfectly fine for my needs. Unless the new one has some revolutionary upgrade I don’t see the point.
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Same boat as you. 4th generation works perfectly for me. It’s not a must have for me... to watch 4K content on TV. I’ll cross that road when the time comes...
 
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zorinlynx said:
Those dongle style media players are slow as hell for everything except the actual video decoding. They have as little CPU power as they can get away with and thus don't have a very good user experience.

This is one thing that's kept me using an ATV; the user interface and responsiveness is worlds ahead of pretty much everything else, even including media players built into smart TVs where you'd expect there not to be a tight power/thermal budget.
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Agreed 100%. I essentially have a handful of Apple TVs around the house (one at each TV) and its pretty much the sole source for anything we watch. I know the remote gets a lot of hate, but I like using it, and fortunately HDMI-CEC works for my setup, so the remote/Apple TV is able to power on / off my AVR and TV.
 
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MauiPa said:
I miss plasma! My Panasonic was one of the highest rated TVs ever made. SAD, I sold it when we moved
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I don’t miss my plasma at all. OLED is just sooooooooo much better, in every way except for motion handling. Overall, OLED is in a completely different league. Really, there is no comparison. Matched with an Apple TV 4K, a 4K HDR OLED TV is just freaking awesome.
 
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imola.zhp said:
That's what this is, we've had two die, replaced with LCD's; but this one is holding out so far. At almost 8 years old I'm getting nervous about it dieing. Might be time to upgrade and unload it. Its used most in our household so I could see it going out next. Although the frame is pretty slim for its year of manufacture I think we can go up to a 65" (from a 60") and not take up any more space on the wall.
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I never had a plasma TV, so can't say that I miss it. But I did have an i3, and I definitely miss that car!
 
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Kabeyun said:
Nope. The ATV 4K has the hardware including BT 5.0, headphones like APPs have BT 5.0, but tvOS won’t stream to two pairs of headphones. Trust me: I’ve gone deep down this rabbit hole. It’s an OS issue.
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I was disappointed by this as well. I recall when iOS 13 launched and you could stream audio to multiple sets of AirPods from iOS, I assumed it would be part of tvOS as well.
 
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I just want to see a new remote with apple tags for finding remote and qi charging built-in
 
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PickUrPoison said:
Likely an “X” version. The 9to5mac article says the code they found suggests that the hardware is based on the arm64e architecture, which was introduced with the A12.

Edit: They also mention that based on the model number T1125, it’s probably an internal prototype device, which may mean its further away than next month. So maybe an A14X this fall?
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Yep. I cant see them use an older chip when the device is meant to go unchanged for two to three years from date of release.
...And also since basic functionality is now being offered to TV manufacturers as an app with their built-in specs.
I can’t see the need to offer a separate device in such a case, unless the device was powerful enough to do more than stream content that most televisions can already do.
 
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rp2011 said:
I can’t see the need to offer a separate device in such a case unless the device was powerful enough to do more than stream content that most television can already do.
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Dolby Atmos. Unless you have all HDMI 2.1 equipment, don’t expect Dolby Atmos to work unless you have an external device. It’s not a matter of performance, but of HDMI standards. ARC in HDMI 2.0 doesn’t officially support Dolby Atmos. eARC in HDMI 2.1 does.
 
MauiPa said:
Can't see that that is much of a thing. https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/h-265-vs-vp9-4k-video-codes-explained-2920862. Seems HEVC (of which VP9 is a derivative) seems to be widely supported
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Wrong. VP9 is not a derivative of HEVC, it is a derivative of VP8. Its performance is comparable to HEVC. VP9, by design, does not use any of the proprietary technology of HEVC.

The huge problem with HEVC is its licensing situation where to legally distribute HEVC content and codecs, you have to pay 3 separate licensing groups, plus a number of other patent owners who are independent. This major issue well known and even the head of MPEG has been highly pessimistic over the situation.

www.streamingmedia.com

The Future of HEVC Licensing Is Bleak, Declares MPEG Chairman

Thanks to a fractured HEVC licensing system companies no longer have the financial incentive to innovate, but Leonardo Chiariglione suggests steps to reverse the damage.
www.streamingmedia.com
 
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Like others I've been waiting on an update. I'm still on the 3 Gen and didn't want to update to the 4th Gen because I hated the remote and really didn't use 4k content (I just recently updated my Family Room to 4K). But if they don't change the remote I still won't be upgrading.
 
realtuner said:
A12X would be a much better choice considering Apples push into gaming with Apple Arcade. I’d like to see what developers would do with the additional horsepower.
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IMO, it's likely Apple repeats what it did with the ATV 4K: give it the same SoC as the iPad Pro model released in the same year. In 2017, that was the A10X. In 2020, it will likely be the A13X.
 
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