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What you need to consider BEFORE purchasing is see who provides the best service where YOU live. Who cares if AT&T has faster data rates than Verizon... what good is a device (iPhone or otherwise) if you can't use it for its intended purpose.

I use both the speaker and Bluetooth when surfing & talking.

So true. Calling plans and data plans need to be considered too.
 
I think that commecial is about the only that ATT has going for them, everything else about there service sucks and atleast with my V-Iphone can actually make the call, he most likely has a microcell just outside the office to make that work.

Brian
Nice generalizations there, buddy. I have AT&T and love them. Their service is excellent, coverage is superior - FOR ME. I couldn't give a rat's backside about whether or not they are optimal for you, because they work just dandy for me. I have a better overall experience with AT&T than with Verizon.

What is so damn hard for you to understand about using whatever carrier is best for you, and to stop caring so much about everybody else?

Oh, and by the way, it's "their," not "there." If you intend on making an ignorant statement like you did, at least have the decency to use proper grammar and punctuation. Otherwise, you simply make yourself look even sillier.
 
Remember, you an only transmit/receive simultaneous voice & data if you can get viable reception and bandwidth. Verizon's argument is a lot more forceful here - who cares if you have the capability of doing simultaneous voice & data, Verizon's saying (and many, many people's experience corroborates) that ATT can't do *one* well - so then forget about both.

Sure, VZW can never do both on EVDO alone. And I guess there are *some* scenarios where voice & data concurrent use occur or are viable - esp with business travelers. But, how many of these scenarios occur where this is not also WiFi (and no, you should not be downloading a doc, talking, and driving...so really, if you're stationary, there aren't too many scenarios where this feature set is critical or optimal).

As a frequent business traveller, I've given up on talking and browsing/working on the same device.

It's clunky. If I need to enter my meeting passcode, I need to go to calendar, read the passcode, switch back to phone, enter it, go back to calendar to get the second half, go back to phone, enter it.

Gross.

I use my PHONE as my PHONE and use my iPad for docs/browsing, etc. In a pinch I'll do it all on my phone because I can, but doesn't mean I *SHOULD* or it is the best way.

Besides, voice (e.g. circuit switched) calls are going the way of the dodo bird, 100% of my conference calls are hosted on my VoIP service. Sure, POTS users can dial in to it, and they do, but when I conference off my iPad or iPhone, it's *all* going over the data connection.

VZW's data connection is reliable enough to do that most of the time, ATT has me looking for WiFi hotspots.


I use data and voice at the same time frequently.... I talk with my headphones on and can surf the web and talk on the phone at the same time
 
Nice generalizations there, buddy. I have AT&T and love them. Their service is excellent, coverage is superior - FOR ME. I couldn't give a rat's backside about whether or not they are optimal for you, because they work just dandy for me. I have a better overall experience with AT&T than with Verizon.

What is so damn hard for you to understand about using whatever carrier is best for you, and to stop caring so much about everybody else?

Oh, and by the way, it's "their," not "there." If you intend on making an ignorant statement like you did, at least have the decency to use proper grammar and punctuation. Otherwise, you simply make yourself look even sillier.

lol grammar nazi. this is the internet. no one cares.
 
Did AT&T mention this only worked in 3G areas? Makes it kind of useless in my town since it's full of 3G holes.

For whatever reason 3G on AT&T in my area only works in spotty locations and falls back to EDGE quiet often even though the coverage map says full 3G. I had a tech for AT&T admit that not all towers are upgraded to 3G in areas that show 3G coverage, they upgrade the towers they feel will reach most of the population. One such location was my parent's house, and if I were on a call it'd drop without fail.

Also I travel quiet a bit and I often saw EDGE or No Service on my iPhone. Really traveling to the same places and taking the same routes on Verizon I don't see 1X or No Service at all.

If you have a solid AT&T experience more power to you! Mine was a disaster.
 
Settle down, the guy has his opinion, you have yours. You like orange, he likes red. No one is telling you orange is worse.

But, all the reviews have consistently said that orange is a much more expensive color to maintain and if you're looking for good coverage, customer service, and real-world speeds, orange doesn't have a good overall reputation.

But, orange works for you, so that's cool...but you seem a bit, uh, well, touchy about others expressing the exact same opinion you are. I have a hunch where that insecurity comes from :).

Nice generalizations there, buddy. I have AT&T and love them. Their service is excellent, coverage is superior - FOR ME. I couldn't give a rat's backside about whether or not they are optimal for you, because they work just dandy for me. I have a better overall experience with AT&T than with Verizon.

What is so damn hard for you to understand about using whatever carrier is best for you, and to stop caring so much about everybody else?

Oh, and by the way, it's "their," not "there." If you intend on making an ignorant statement like you did, at least have the decency to use proper grammar and punctuation. Otherwise, you simply make yourself look even sillier.
 
Sometimes I use bluetooth, sperakerphone or my headphones. All depends on the situation. Why is that so confusing?

No, not confusing. I was just testing you. Some other guy here said that he used it a lot but not on speakerphone...

I asked him how it's possible to surf when the iPhone is on his ear.
He didn't respond.
 
lol a lot of bickering in here.

verizon people wanna prove their point because they're insecure about their network.

at&t people wanna prove their point because they're right (the more features, the better).

the ad clearly worked (11 page thread)... who cares if it's stupid. there are a ton of ads out there that are dumb, but they work. they get stuck in your head like "hey that stupid at&t ad said i couldn't use voice/data at the same time, why should i go with verizon?"

but hey, i'm happy with Rogers :D

- no dropped calls
- no signal issues
- voice and data at the same time
- good coverage

jealous?

(p.s. not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread, but verizon has technology for voice/data at the same time that will be brought to handsets later in the year. read it on engadget)
 
Nice generalizations there, buddy. I have AT&T and love them. Their service is excellent, coverage is superior - FOR ME. I couldn't give a rat's backside about whether or not they are optimal for you, because they work just dandy for me. I have a better overall experience with AT&T than with Verizon.

What is so damn hard for you to understand about using whatever carrier is best for you, and to stop caring so much about everybody else?

Oh, and by the way, it's "their," not "there." If you intend on making an ignorant statement like you did, at least have the decency to use proper grammar and punctuation. Otherwise, you simply make yourself look even sillier.

Thanks for that. The only reason I allow myself to be drawn into this discussion is because I have to keep listening to these Verizon peoples at least I can make a call crap. It's so ignorant.
 
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You guys are killing me! Three-Hundred-Ten comments on how mine-is-better-than-yours.. It's just a smart phone on a network!
 
Extremely useful

It's like the 20 foot ladder in my garage. I don't use it all the time, but when I do need it I'm glad it's there.
 
galgould: I didn't want to quote your whole post...

Well stated argument...good job for researching what works for you instead of being impulsive and buying a device that didn't work in your area and then blaming the provider vice yourself for making a lousy decision.

Ok, I think this is my last post in this thread because I've said what I wanted to say: Verizon's commercial was awesome (actually made me laugh out loud), AT&T's sucked (it was predictable), and when LTE arrives, I'm sure we'll have other things to argue about.

And yes, I'm an AT&T customer.
 
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Settle down, the guy has his opinion, you have yours. You like orange, he likes red. No one is telling you orange is worse.

But, all the reviews have consistently said that orange is a much more expensive color to maintain and if you're looking for good coverage, customer service, and real-world speeds, orange doesn't have a good overall reputation.

But, orange works for you, so that's cool...but you seem a bit, uh, well, touchy about others expressing the exact same opinion you are.

I took the liberty of removing your completely ignorant and inappropriate retort for you. You're welcome.

His point can be summed up by this:
"AT&T is terrible I hate them they are so bad I hate everyone Verizon is so good"

My point can be summed up by this:
"Stop caring so much about what other people choose to use. I don't care if you use Bob's Cell Service if it works for you. However, there is no reason to make idiotic generalizations that aren't true for a majority of people. There are people that are happy with AT&T, and people that are happy with Verizon. WHO THE HELL CARES??"

So those "same" opinions aren't really the same. You've basically just compared the color orange and a cheese grater.
 
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You guys are killing me! Three-Hundred-Ten comments on how mine-is-better-than-yours.. It's just a smart phone on a network!

And my dogs bigger than yours too!
 
Wait wait wait. Your all wrong.

My T-Mobile iPhone is way better than AT&T or VZDub. Excellent nation-wide coverage and blazing fast 2g speeds.

Just wait, you'll all come running my way when you're looking for a real cell phone provider.
 
A good and frequent example for the use of voice and data is being
on a call and a need to get a number from your contacts for the
person you are talking to. The need to do a quick google search in
connection with your conversation is also nice. Remember technology
should move forward for easy of use.
 
That's the sole reason that I'm keeping my GSM iPhone 4.

It's more important than anything...reception, dropping calls....anything.

I use data while on the phone *EVERY DAY*, and it's a deal breaker not to have that.

Next thread.
 
Whoa. Settle down. Bad day? No one here has told you you should not use ATT, instead, you started throwing stones about how people WERE.

You're still throwing stones. I guess you have no intentions of playing well with others, so I'll stop feeding the troll.

What do I owe you thanks for? For your negativity and hostility? For your "censorship" (are you a mod? did you just delete my post? If so, wonderful, how big of you to delete things you don't agree with - does that delete button fill whatever void there is that is causing this horrible expression of hostility?)?


I took the liberty of removing your completely ignorant and inappropriate retort for you. You're welcome.

His point can be summed up by this:
"AT&T is terrible I hate them they are so bad I hate everyone Verizon is so good"

My point can be summed up by this:
"Stop caring so much about what other people choose to use. I don't care if you use Bob's Cell Service if it works for you. However, there is no reason to make idiotic generalizations that aren't true for a majority of people. There are people that are happy with AT&T, and people that are happy with Verizon. WHO THE HELL CARES??"

So those "same" opinions aren't really the same. You've basically just compared the color orange and a cheese grater.
 
Conflicted

Using voice and data at the same time is actually something that I use very frequently. I often have to send or receive and review an email while on a conference call. When Verizon first announced the iPhone, I was "certainly" going to switch. Then I did an admittedly unscientific study and discovered that I use voice and data at the same time about 80% of the time. If I could use both simultaneous, I would switch today. Does anyone know if it will be possible to use both when Verizon rolls out phones that use the new 4G network?
 
A quote from another poster:

What are you pointing out to me? He said "3-4 years", I said "in a few years".

Yea it may take a few years for the whole country to be LTE, but supposedly there are 11 or so markets that Verizon already offers LTE coverage, and Detroit is one of them. So again, I don't see the point of your post I quoted.
 
PS - If you're looking for real ignorance and inappropriateness, you can usually find it in the ones calling other people such things. Take a look inside before you go throwing around words like that.

I took the liberty of removing your completely ignorant and inappropriate retort for you. You're welcome.

His point can be summed up by this:
"AT&T is terrible I hate them they are so bad I hate everyone Verizon is so good"

My point can be summed up by this:
"Stop caring so much about what other people choose to use. I don't care if you use Bob's Cell Service if it works for you. However, there is no reason to make idiotic generalizations that aren't true for a majority of people. There are people that are happy with AT&T, and people that are happy with Verizon. WHO THE HELL CARES??"

So those "same" opinions aren't really the same. You've basically just compared the color orange and a cheese grater.
 
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