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Having voice AND data at the same time is a feature I've used numerous times. It's a feature I'd rather not give up. But if I lived in an area with crappy AT&T coverage, I'd take the better coverage over the ability to do voice AND data.
Fortunately, I don't have to make that decision. In San Diego I get near perfect coverage with AT&T. I can't remember the last time I've had a call drop on me.
And, the icing on the cake, I also consistently get data speeds of 2-3 Mbps down and 1-1.5 Mbps up! If I were to switch to Verizon, it would be like going back to EDGE. My iPhone would feel like it was crawling. Bleh! No thank you!
Mark
Fortunately, I don't have to make that decision. In San Diego I get near perfect coverage with AT&T. I can't remember the last time I've had a call drop on me.
And, the icing on the cake, I also consistently get data speeds of 2-3 Mbps down and 1-1.5 Mbps up! If I were to switch to Verizon, it would be like going back to EDGE. My iPhone would feel like it was crawling. Bleh! No thank you!
Mark
Agreed....looks rushed. They should have picked out a better example of why you need simultaneous voice/data. Driving w/GPS or talking with customers while sending files.
Please consult an atlas!
Sorry if this appears pedantic but I wish people would be accurate in their international comparisons. The UK has a population equal to that of the 28 least populous US states combined, and your UK/US size comparisons were off by about 80%:
UK - 94,060 sq miles, population 62.1 million
Alabama - 52,419 sq miles, population 4.7 million
Louisiana - 51,843 sq miles, population 4.5 million
Oregon - 98,381 sq, population 3.8 million
Dealing with the UK's population density (7.5 times higher than that of the US - 659.6/sq mile vs. 87.4/sq mile) is a challenge of its own. Remember that while the UK has an area closest in size to Oregon it has the population of California and Texas combined (as does France). And unlike the US, the UK has several networks all competing using the same technology - O2, Orange, Vodafone, T-Mobile, 3.
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Anyway, UK similar in size to the state of Louisiana or Alabama in terms of total square miles. That leaves another 49 states to go to provide infrastructure for the network and adequate mobile coverage.
Just for further size comparisons... Germany is about the size of Montana, and France which boasts being the biggest in Europe is smaller than Texas. Again, what about the other 49 states that need cell tower coverage.
Yep need to add a few more, for emphasis sake...
"Granted, a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH smaller coverage area"...
Sorry if this appears pedantic but I wish people would be accurate in their international comparisons. The UK has a population equal to that of the 28 least populous US states combined, and your UK/US size comparisons were off by about 80%:
UK - 94,060 sq miles, population 62.1 million
Alabama - 52,419 sq miles, population 4.7 million
Louisiana - 51,843 sq miles, population 4.5 million
Oregon - 98,381 sq, population 3.8 million
Dealing with the UK's population density (7.5 times higher than that of the US - 659.6/sq mile vs. 87.4/sq mile) is a challenge of its own. Remember that while the UK has an area closest in size to Oregon it has the population of California and Texas combined (as does France). And unlike the US, the UK has several networks all competing using the same technology - O2, Orange, Vodafone, T-Mobile, 3.
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Liked it....
All the verizon fans can sit on it... slower internet speeds and no simultaneous voice/data.... hell, what do you even want with a smart phone then, just get a pay as you go phone if all you can do or need to do is make "GREAT" phone calls!
All the verizon fans can sit on it... slower internet speeds and no simultaneous voice/data.... hell, what do you even want with a smart phone then, just get a pay as you go phone if all you can do or need to do is make "GREAT" phone calls!
That feature is the reason why you AT&T folks drop calls. I'll be happy with my Verizon iPhone without that ability. I've been use to it for how many years so far? Don't care.
Not to sidetrack this wonderful argument, but why is it that Verizon cannot do voice+data? Is it an inherent limitation of CDMA technology or something else?
How'd you manage to come to that conclusion? Did you make it up or have some info to backup this claim?
How'd you manage to come to that conclusion? Did you make it up or have some info to backup this claim?
I'm not sure why anyone would lock themselves into a 2 year contract on a cell phone that is almost a year old already. Patience.
Verizon Killed the ATT Star
From what I read on MacRumors, you can't use the ATT iPhone for calls anyway so what is the point of the ad?
From what I read on MacRumors, you can't use the ATT iPhone for calls anyway so what is the point of the ad?
Yeah, it's a limitation of the technology (CDMA)... it favors voice over data. Remember the old dial-up modems, when you received a call, the data connection dropped? Same here.
GSM allows both voice & data, but at a (slight?) cost... sometimes you have dropped calls, sometimes you have slow data rates.
Good point.
Here is a very important consideration for LTE. For LTE-4G cell phones, LTE will initially be used for DATA only....the 3G will still be used for VOICE. However, LTE footprints are small and will take 3-4 years to buildup. So, users will be roaming in and out of LTE for years to come. If you are on AT&T, no prob...seamless. If you are on Verizon, look out. When you fall back to CDMA (from tower to tower) your voice or data will drop. Verizon will have some major drop issues in the years to come.
From what I read on MacRumors, you can't use the ATT iPhone for calls anyway so what is the point of the ad?
What's the point of a Smart Phone if you can't have fast access and use voice and data at the same time?
Just because you don't do it, doesn't mean there's no need. I think people that use blue-tooth headsets, such as myself do this a lot. I frequently am using data while on a conversation, weather forwarding an email that is the topic of discussion, or searching airline schedule options while on a conversation booking the reservation. I do this even more when coordinating regular lunch meetings. While still in the parking lot, on hands free conversation, pulling up the location of the day's lunch selection on the map App.
Dont worry though, you are not alone; It is very logical for people whom have never had a capability to have trouble imagining it's use. At one time, some thought that no one who ever really use a computer at their actual home either.
It seems that recently the video calling feature has fallen by the wayside.
Can you surf the web while on a video call?
Can you even do a video call while on the Verizon iPhone?
Can you surf the web while on a video call?
Can you even do a video call while on the Verizon iPhone?
From what I read on MacRumors, you can't use the ATT iPhone for calls anyway so what is the point of the ad?
What an original post. Did you think of that all by yourself?
Usually there's a computer nearby and when I'm on a boring call, I just use that. Same when on hold.
And when the next iPhone becomes a 4G phone on Verizon, this argument will go away.
No CDMA here folks
I'm talking and surfing and checking emails, contacts, etc, ALL THE TIME. Who are these trolling Verizon folks here? Geez, get a grip folks, you CDMA Verizon folks have to understand that, yes, you are new to the party, you are NOT the party. Just because you are like a wall flower doesnt mean that I can't use my beer bong every now and then.
I'm talking and surfing and checking emails, contacts, etc, ALL THE TIME. Who are these trolling Verizon folks here? Geez, get a grip folks, you CDMA Verizon folks have to understand that, yes, you are new to the party, you are NOT the party. Just because you are like a wall flower doesnt mean that I can't use my beer bong every now and then.