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Looking forward to hearing the reflexive complainers say that they have new reasons, aside from the base RAM, to never ever buy what Apple is selling and to complain about Cook, innovation, etc.
Surprised no one has noticed the $1499 second default has gone from 8/512 to 16/256.
So eitherway the prices didn’t really change.
 
Cue complaints that it’s not 32.
Well, yeah - 8GB on a >>$1000 system has been ridiculous for years and although 16GB base is good news, Apple are still a day late and a dollar short.

16GB is acceptable for a base model and there doesn't seem to be a price bump. However, I'd certainly complain that it's still $200-per-8GB upgrade if you need more.

Plus, same old ridiculous SSD prices.
 
I’m glad there’s finally 16 gb of memory on the base model.

Unfortunately, I seem to have found the next thing to complain about: it looks like the base chip (non-Pro/Max) doesn’t go beyond 24 gb. That’s disappointing for those of us who were hoping to at least consider replacing our MacBook Pros with Airs. :(
Actually it looks like it requires 512GB of storage or more to get the 32GB option (and iMac doesn't get pro/Max chips) on the 4 Thunderbolt port models.
 
I’m glad there’s finally 16 gb of memory on the base model.

Unfortunately, I seem to have found the next thing to complain about: it looks like the base chip (non-Pro/Max) doesn’t go beyond 24 gb. That’s disappointing for those of us who were hoping to at least consider replacing our MacBook Pros with Airs. :(
For en entry level chip, 24GB ain't bad.
 
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Woohoo! About time. Glad to have 16 be the new minimum. 👏

Any predictions when the next bump will be? 24 or 32? In 2030-2039 or 2040+?
Hopefully a bump in the “non-pro” means we get a bump on the “pro” chips as well.


…………..but I won’t hold my breath.
 
I’m glad there’s finally 16 gb of memory on the base model.

Unfortunately, I seem to have found the next thing to complain about: it looks like the base chip (non-Pro/Max) doesn’t go beyond 24 gb. That’s disappointing for those of us who were hoping to at least consider replacing our MacBook Pros with Airs. :(
It goes to 32gb…….
 
Surprised no one has noticed the $1499 second default has gone from 8/512 to 16/256.
Nope - according to everymac.com the old M3 $1499 model was 8/256. The $200 got you 2 extra GPU cores, two USB-C (but not TB) ports and the Ethernet version of the power brick.

Now you also get 2 extra GPU, 2 extra CPU and 4 full-fat TB4 ports, so it's really quite an improvement overall.
 
Yay for 16GB base memory, but…

It's really crappy that the base model doesn't have a 2TB option. In reality that means a difference of:

1TB: € 1979
2TB: € 2689
= € 710

… between the cheapest models with that storage. What the actual **** Apple?
It is ****ing stupid of course, but to be fair using an external SSD or a NAS is way more practical for a desktop machine than it is for a mobile device. I mean, at least for this machine there are practical and cheap ways around it.
 
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