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New Desktop Pictures and QuickTime X Icon in Latest Snow Leopard

Mainyehc said:
Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.
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You said what I wanted to say better than I did.

If I had just one PowerPC Mac and one $129 Leopard purchase, I'd not be mad at dropping PowerPC support. I think Apple is making a mistake though with its best customers as this notion that G5s don't support any of Snow Leopard's features is blatantly false as are the notions that Snow Leopard is a completely new operating system.

It's NOT a new operating system! It's a major bug fix release!​

Think Windows Service pack. That would be a very good description of Snow Leopard.

Why else would it be just $29?​

Even by Apple's own descriptions of Snow Leopard, you'd be hard pressed to state a technical reason why they couldn't just as easily be implemented on a dual processor G5. And some fixes would probably help even on a G4!

Onto my last point... Why do silly Fanboys shout TROLL every time someone criticizes Apple?

I've used Apple computers since before half the people here who shout TROLL were BORN! LOL
 
Can someone please upload the new blue icon?
 

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HyperZboy said:
You said what I wanted to say better than I did.

If I had just one PowerPC Mac and one $129 Leopard purchase, I'd not be mad at dropping PowerPC support. I think Apple is making a mistake though with its best customers as this notion that G5s don't support any of Snow Leopard's features is blatantly false as are the notions that Snow Leopard is a completely new operating system.

It's NOT a new operating system! It's a major bug fix release!​

Think Windows Service pack. That would be a very good description of Snow Leopard.

Why else would it be just $29?​

Even by Apple's own descriptions of Snow Leopard, you'd be hard pressed to state a technical reason why they couldn't just as easily be implemented on a dual processor G5. And some fixes would probably help even on a G4!

Onto my last point... Why do silly Fanboys shout TROLL every time someone criticizes Apple?

I've used Apple computers since before half the people here who shout TROLL were BORN! LOL
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It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.
 
iBug2 said:
It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.
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FALSE​

How can a 64bit computer not be capable of running a 64bit kernel?

At least explain why if you think you're correct on this.

I've not read this anywhere before. Enlighten us please.

And yes, a G5 can run a GPU capable of running Open CL, so wrong again, although this would include few machines and few graphics card combinations.

But OpenCL is only a part of this as Snow Leopard fixes so many Leopard problems that PowerPC people who paid $129 just recently will never get.

PS: The Windows XP service packs practically re-invented Windows XP!
And most of the changes, like Snow Leopard were "under the hood"

PPS: The great lengths that the Fanboys will go to amazes me on this site.
 
I'm loving the Japanese woodblock print wallpaper of Hokusai's "Waves", seeing as I live in J-land myself and have a real woodblock print of it.
 
HyperZboy said:
FALSE​

How can a 64bit computer not be capable of running a 64bit kernel?

At least explain why if you think you're correct on this.

I've not read this anywhere before. Enlighten us please.

And yes, a G5 can run a GPU capable of running Open CL, so wrong again, although this would include few machines and few graphics card combinations.

But OpenCL is only a part of this as Snow Leopard fixes so many Leopard problems that PowerPC people who paid $129 just recently will never get.

PS: The Windows XP service packs practically re-invented Windows XP!
And most of the changes, like Snow Leopard were "under the hood"

PPS: The great lengths that the Fanboys will go to amazes me on this site.
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64 bit kernel requires 64 bit EFI. Not even all 64 bit Intel macs are capable of running 64 bit kernel with SL. (At the moment at least)

NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 8800 GTS, Geforce 9400M, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce GT 120, GeForce GT 130.
ATI Radeon 4850, Radeon 4870 are the only hardware which support Open CL none of which is available for any Power PC hardware apple ships.

And yes, windows service packs are the equivalent of the point updates we get with each Mac OS X. Just 10.5.7 may not be as extensive as a service pack, but Windows generally releases couple packs while Apple can release up to 11 for a single OS. So YES, I'm pretty sure 10.4.11 vs 10.4.0 had as many under the hood changes and bug fixes as XP service packs.

And no service pack of windows gave the user an 64 bit OS. You may purchase 64 bit vista/xp separately if you like.
 
Jigsawjammer said:
Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?
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Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!
 
roamy said:
Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!
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Are you even conscious or am I misunderstanding your point?

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The only thing I complain about in Snow Leopard is that you can't click and hold a stack to show its options. You need to right click or ctrl-click them, which I rarely do on a Mac.
 
roamy said:
Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!
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Eh...?
 
roamy said:
Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!
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What are you talking about? Leopard was just yet another evolutionary step of OSX. How in the hell did it try to emulate windows when windows has been skimming ideas off for years?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Also, what is a robust web application? (made me chuckle)
 
iBug2 said:
It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.
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Not to mention they would have to leave all the legacy PowerPC code which was a major step in optimizing everything. Maybe it would have been nice for Apple to make a final OS update for PowerPC machines that incorporated many of Snow Leopard's feature set but they haven't sold a PowerPC computer in years and there is only a small percentage of people still using them.

Also, a Windows service pack generally does far more than the average 10.5.x update.

10.5.x updates - bug fixes, compatibility updates, minor feature enhancements, etc.
Service Packs - major features built on current OS, bug fixes, compatibility updates
 
roamy said:
Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!
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This is the most retarded post I've ever read. This poster obviously doesn't have the slightest clue of what he's talking about.
 
Quillz said:
Again, just because you (and me) have no issues with Time Machine doesn't mean that others won't, or at least finding it annoying.

I know we'd all like to think Apple makes perfect software, but they don't. No one does. It's not a perfect world.
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I didn't say others had no issues with it, I said "I" don't have any issues with it. And it's not false to say I don't have any issues with Leopard, because this is MY experience with it...too bad others, for whatever reason, can't say the same.
 
NT1440 said:
What are you talking about? Leopard was just yet another evolutionary step of OSX. How in the hell did it try to emulate windows when windows has been skimming ideas off for years?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Also, what is a robust web application? (made me chuckle)
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There is a hint of truth to his post. Leopard did feel like Windows when I first used it. I had used Tiger a long time before, but Leopard really made it feel like Windows. What do I mean?

It was slow. Admit it, 10.5.0 was slow. Took 7 revisions to get it back to speed (now it's pretty fast, Dock no longer lags for me, neither does stacks)
It was half finished. 10.5.3 brought the graphics and interaction back to regular Apple standard (beforehand spaces didn't work well, stacks didn't have finished graphics, several things weren't probably thought through)
It was delayed. They brought OS X developers off to help with iPhone OS.

Yeah, other than that I don't know what he's talking about.
 
wankey said:
There is a hint of truth to his post. Leopard did feel like Windows when I first used it. I had used Tiger a long time before, but Leopard really made it feel like Windows. What do I mean?

It was slow. Admit it, 10.5.0 was slow. Took 7 revisions to get it back to speed (now it's pretty fast, Dock no longer lags for me, neither does stacks)
It was half finished. 10.5.3 brought the graphics and interaction back to regular Apple standard (beforehand spaces didn't work well, stacks didn't have finished graphics, several things weren't probably thought through)
It was delayed. They brought OS X developers off to help with iPhone OS.

Yeah, other than that I don't know what he's talking about.
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:p

So leopard would be Apple trying to be like MS by making a slow unfinished OS?

Thats a funny idea that other guy brought up.
 
Frightening that a new quicktime Logo and some desktop pictures are getting this much attention. They are graphics NOTHING MORE....

Would sure love to see some scrutiny here on MacRumors. Looks like it would be an Apple controlled forum.:cool:
 
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