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New Desktop Pictures and QuickTime X Icon in Latest Snow Leopard

Well, actually....

kyncaith said:
Personally, I'm not particularly excited yet about anything regarding Snow Leopard, aesthetics or features wise.

You certainly seem to be getting excited about a trivial forum discussion though. And I find it humorous that you feel that you can dictate to others what it's "all about".
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in the Mac OS forum I did weigh in on the OS, and like you, am less than excited. I used, as a reference, the list of 10.6 improvements and the bulk of the improvements are internal and future oriented, not a significant change in the user experience. I was the person who coined the term "Snore Leopard" and took a massive amount of fecal material for it.

So seeing the lead thread on this forum talking about avatars and wallpaper just set me off. Its about features and functionality, not fluff.
 
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!​

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

Maybe if the damn thing were called something different or was a real completely different operating system release, it wouldn't piss off PowerPC users so much.
I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 & an Apple user since 1983 and have even gone through the Apple II to Motorola to the PowerPC transition and this is just clearly bad marketing if not worse IMHO.

That in a nut shell is why Apple is doing it WRONG this time.​
 
str1f3 said:
Snow Leopard is meant to be a leaner and faster OS that supports 64bit processing, multiple cores and new technologies based on Intel chips. The only way to do that is to get rid of legacy code. There would be no benefit to PowerPC users.
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Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.

Oh, and on a on-topic sidenote, has anyone noticed yet how the "pinstripe" and "tye-dye" wallpapers (especially the latter) are rather blatantly 'shopped?
 
HyperZboy said:
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!​

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

Maybe if the damn thing were called something different or was a real completely different operating system release, it wouldn't piss off PowerPC users so much.
I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 & an Apple user since 1983 and have even gone through the Apple II to Motorola to the PowerPC transition and this is just clearly bad marketing if not worse IMHO.

That in a nut shell is why Apple is doing it WRONG this time.​
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WFC? :confused:

Seriously, don't think about you can catch up with latest tech. Tech changes so fast. Don't read/check mac rumors or whatever rumors site. Problem solved.
 
HyperZboy said:
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!
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false.

HyperZboy said:
However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!
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well.. i paid 129 for tiger.. and will now have to pay 129 for snow leopard. please add that to your bold and centered complaints. thanks!

also.. snow leopards and leopards aren't exactly directly related in the real world. so i'm not sure you why you think your 'bug fix' obsession is valid.
 
HyperZboy said:
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!
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Ofc this is wrong. It probably will be more buggy than Leopard in the first several releases.

It's a step-release to make people switch to 64 bit capable machines for the next big thing. It's practically an advanced Leopard so every program that runs on SL will continue to run on Leopard as well, so nobody actually needs SL. But once everyone makes the switch to 64 bit then nobody will be left behind on new features coming in 10.7.
 
Snow Leopard

I am absolutely DESPERATE to get Snow Leopard. TIme Machine is a dreadful monster. I want it to STOP BUGGING ME.
 
BRLawyer said:
Thank you for your enlightening comment. Now should I buy Windows 7 or what?
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or just google and download them from the vast number of blogs that pulled them out of the betas and posted them.

HyperZboy said:
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!​
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to call it a 'bug fix' is false. it is an enhancement. and those enhancements require an Intel processor. so those PPC users won't be paying anything for enhancements that won't work on their machines.

as for the rest. would you rather they went back to the old pricing which was no discount unless you bought a brand new machine in between the announcement and the release. because that is the other option. one that many of us even with Intel processors have dealt with before.

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!
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no they won't. because the upgrades don't work on PPC computers.

fact is that by the time Snow Leopard is released, 99.9% of PPC computers will be out of warranty. and the cost of any major repairs will be more than just buying a new computer. if you can even find anyone that does repairs on systems that old. so then you buy a new computer that comes with Snow Leopard installed.

I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.
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sorry but you are going to find a lot of disagreement on that. PPC processors are gone and buried. they are a quickly dying breed. many major 3rd party softwares from shops like Adobe, Avid etc are spec'd out to a point that you can barely use a PPC computer anymore if at all. You have to have Intel. And that is just going to continue and get worse.

Apple made it clear from the start that PPC support would not be eternal, it was being phased out. anyone that is crying foul about this Snow Leopard upgrade hasn't been listening. and should check their specs and go buy Leopard now if they want it that bad
 
Mainyehc said:
Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.

Oh, and on a on-topic sidenote, has anyone noticed yet how the "pinstripe" and "tye-dye" wallpapers (especially the latter) are rather blatantly 'shopped?
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Snow Leopard is meant to take advantage of the Intel architecture. If they had to code for Power PC (including all the new technologies) as well how long will would have SL taken to be released? As for those who brought G5's, you are now out of warranty. It would be ridiculous for Apple to support hardware that is now out of date and that they no longer have to repair. You still have a good computer running an excellent OS. If you have enough money to spend the large sum on a desktop you should still also be able to purchase one every three to four years otherwise you are fiscally irresponsible.

As for that room full of G5's, those kind of places only care if Final Cut Studio, Logic Pro and the latest CS still run on their hardware. They're not looking for the latest and greatest. Otherwise they would upgraded their hardware as well.
 
BRLawyer said:
And I have ZERO problems with it. It's a flawless backup solution for me...so much so that I don't even remember having it.
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I agree. What could possibly be problematic about Time Machine? It only bugs me if my backup drive is full or powered off (which is to say, never). :confused:
 
I'm waiting to hear the uproar about Final Cut Studio being Intel only. It was only a matter of time before Mac OS X was that way, and Apple has to start somewhere. Considering it's been 3.5 years since the first Intel Macs hit the market, I'm not surprised that 10.6 is dropping PPC support. Even Steve Jobs himself said that 10.6 was going to be a refinement on the OS and will pave the way for future versions of Mac OS X.

PPC is dead. Get over it and move on. Your computer will not stop working the minute SL is released. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Apple will still support 10.5 with security updates and such just like they are with 10.4 and 10.5.
 
HyperZboy said:
The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!​

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

Maybe if the damn thing were called something different or was a real completely different operating system release, it wouldn't piss off PowerPC users so much.
I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 & an Apple user since 1983 and have even gone through the Apple II to Motorola to the PowerPC transition and this is just clearly bad marketing if not worse IMHO.

That in a nut shell is why Apple is doing it WRONG this time.​
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Leopard was released nearly 2yrs ago. The OS is typically updated every 18-24 months. So nothing has changed here.

What exactly are the "BUGS" in Leopard? Leopard is a pretty bug free OS. If it was full of bugs, it would be a hell of a lot upper in the numbering system than 10.5.7. It would be up around 10.5.10. There's no such thing as a perfect OS with 0 bugs. EVERY OS has little bugs here and there and always will have.

You need to go back and read what Snow Leopard offers. There really isn't any so called bug fixes included, but rather additions to the OS. You know, like every major OS update has. There just isn't as many of them so Apple feels its not worth charging $129 for everyone to get these few updates. But at the same time, its large enough to where its not just a dot dot update (like 10.5.x) for it to be free.

This isn't like Windows 7. This is an entirely different thing here.

I WAS the one said:
it seems Apple wont do more critical changings that means more time to enhance the GUI and a few new treats! YEAH!
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Apple is done with new features and changes. All they're doing now are simple enhancements and bug fixes to the WWDC release this past June. So no GUI changes or anything like that will be seen in this release. I don't consider icon changes, GUI changes.
 
mbprouser said:
I'm waiting to hear the uproar about Final Cut Studio being Intel only.
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given that I pay attention when announcements are made, I was expecting that any upgrades would be intel only since imovie went that way with ilife '08. if they would do that to the 'consumer' program of course they would to the pro program. double since I was paying attention to the announcement that SL would be intel only.

my only surprise was that they released Final Cut now instead of a huge software blow out in Sept. New OS, all new pro apps (someone please update aperture and shake stat)

so now I"m watching for the rumors that new imacs and pro towers with built in blu-ray will be released in the fall since Final Cut now has blu-ray support. I give it another day, two tops for the first 'announcements'
 
Intel only software on Macs.....

charlituna said:
given that I pay attention when announcements are made, I was expecting that any upgrades would be intel only since imovie went that way with ilife '08. if they would do that to the 'consumer' program of course they would to the pro program. double since I was paying attention to the announcement that SL would be intel only.
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Except that iLife 08 was not Intel only...perhaps you meant to iLife 09...it does not require an Intel CPU either for most functionality. Those of us who still use G5 based Macs can look forward to years more of usefulness. Those of us who own Macs based on both architectures can benefit from stability of existing OSs, and more advanced technology on the current generation of CPUs from Intel.

charlituna said:
my only surprise was that they released Final Cut now instead of a huge software blow out in Sept. New OS, all new pro apps (someone please update aperture and shake stat)

so now I"m watching for the rumors that new imacs and pro towers with built in blu-ray will be released in the fall since Final Cut now has blu-ray support. I give it another day, two tops for the first 'announcements'
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And yet, there's not a compelling reason for Macs to come with Blu-Ray as anything other than a BTO option. I'd prefer to see a 28" iMac with a quad-core processor and 8GByte memory options. That would make for a nice consumer level video production environment.
 
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