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New eMac Tomorrow?

.......iBook, eMac, Powerbook rumours.

With the eMac, iBook and Powerbooks nearing the end of their current product cycles (at least according to the buyers guide) I'd have thought we would have started seeing a few rumours starting to surface from some of the more credible rumour sites by now. :confused:
 
iHack said:
Am I the only one wondering why the page 2 article says the anonymous report is from Italy while the first post in this thread says it's form Spain?
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Probably because the rumour was false lol
 
Rod Rod said:
darnit, I just bought a 2005 Lotus Elise. they BETTER NOT make a 2006 model! I'm warning them ... :)
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But the thing is, you would have a good idea of when the new model is coming out and make your purchasing decision.

My problems with Apple as a supplier are:

We have no clue about when new models are (or if) going to be released. We could buy a LOT of Macs then find out next week there is a new model. Note that they announce new models months ahead of delivery time so you can't take advantage of swapping it for the new model.

Deliveries take forever.

They often screw up the address. Last G5 I ordered from them I watched the couriers web page as it went from Ireland > Holland > Liverpool > Holland > Ireland. We asked what happened and they said they didn't know. We checked the address they sent it to and although we had filled in everything absolutely correctly, they despatched it to the name of our purchasing lady, then the street name, then the postcode. The poor courier guy was looking up and down the street for a business named like our purchaser, however obviously (or rather fortunately) there is none.

We complained that this had happened, they said they would sort it out.

Then they did the exact same thing AGAIN.

Honestly - forget market share / Microsoft's marketing and so on - if Apple could simply deliver the kit they sell within a reasonable timeframe they would be market leaders.
 
2nd the motion

MacFan25863 said:
I personally think they should sell the old iMac as the new eMac. Afterall, the emac adopted the old iMac design, why not do the same now?
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I second this motion - but it would hurt sales of the iMac G5 - so I doubt it would happen.

The last iMac was a far more ergonomic and space saving design vs the new iMac and was a lot more radical - an iMac G5 looks like a monitor - an iMac G4 was recognizable from a mile away - plus I just liked the full range of movement with the arm.
 
Pretending to know ...

Skiniftz said:
But the thing is, you would have a good idea of when the new model is coming out and make your purchasing decision.

My problems with Apple as a supplier are:

We have no clue about when new models are (or if) going to be released. We could buy a LOT of Macs then find out next week there is a new model. Note that they announce new models months ahead of delivery time so you can't take advantage of swapping it for the new model.

Deliveries take forever.

They often screw up the address. Last G5 I ordered from them I watched the couriers web page as it went from Ireland > Holland > Liverpool > Holland > Ireland. We asked what happened and they said they didn't know. We checked the address they sent it to and although we had filled in everything absolutely correctly, they despatched it to the name of our purchasing lady, then the street name, then the postcode. The poor courier guy was looking up and down the street for a business named like our purchaser, however obviously (or rather fortunately) there is none.

We complained that this had happened, they said they would sort it out.

Then they did the exact same thing AGAIN.

Honestly - forget market share / Microsoft's marketing and so on - if Apple could simply deliver the kit they sell within a reasonable timeframe they would be market leaders.
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I suppose you are pretending to be a reseller. If Apple sells you stock, then releases new models they offer incentives to get rid of the "older model" - + all you have to do is offer AppleCare with the units at cut rate prices. In the case of the last iMac revision - the price of the iMac G4 20" actually went up in resale value.
 
Incorrect ...

MacPhreak said:
The eMac's display is not a Studio Display. The eMac has a shadow mask display, which is why I won't buy one. Colors are washed out, and the display just isn't that sharp. Sorry, but after looking at Trinitron displays all my life, the eMac's display is abysmal; it really detracts from the 'wow' factor of OS X. Shadow mask displays can also have weird ghosting issues sometimes, but I haven't seen any on the various eMac's I've played with.

The Studio Displays were Trinitron/DiamondTron-type displays (Trinitron, I'm 90% sure of it). Much much sharper, and vivid colors.
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The eMac displays are actually some of the most gorgeous displays I have EVER come across. They make the value of the eMac (and sales presentation) really shine.

They are Sony Trinitron technology/and Apple Spec licensed to LG Philips - the cinema displays can't hold a candle to the color seperation on an eMac.
 
adzoox said:
They are Sony Trinitron technology/and Apple Spec licensed to LG Philips - the cinema displays can't hold a candle to the color seperation on an eMac.
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Color is good on the eMac display (when calibrated), but it's definitely not an aperture grille (aka "Trinitron") picture tube. It's not even a particularly high-quality shadow mask display - it has a large dot pitch, has (relatively) poor focus in the corners, and is VERY prone to Moire patterns, even when not playing sounds from the internal speakers. Just because the front glass is flat doesn't make it a Trinitron.

I don't mean to make it sound awful - it's adequately sharp at 1024x768 - but I wouldn't be satisfied with my eMac if I had to use the internal display alone, rather than with a real 19" FD Trinitron tube as the external (and primary) display.

-vga4life
 
vga4life said:
Color is good on the eMac display (when calibrated), but it's definitely not an aperture grille (aka "Trinitron") picture tube. It's not even a particularly high-quality shadow mask display - it has a large dot pitch, has (relatively) poor focus in the corners, and is VERY prone to Moire patterns, even when not playing sounds from the internal speakers. Just because the front glass is flat doesn't make it a Trinitron.

I don't mean to make it sound awful - it's adequately sharp at 1024x768 - but I wouldn't be satisfied with my eMac if I had to use the internal display alone, rather than with a real 19" FD Trinitron tube as the external (and primary) display.

-vga4life
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You know, Apple could end all of this silly "color" debate quite simply - revert the new eMac back to good old black & white! :p :cool:
 
adzoox said:
The eMac displays are actually some of the most gorgeous displays I have EVER come across. They make the value of the eMac (and sales presentation) really shine.

They are Sony Trinitron technology/and Apple Spec licensed to LG Philips - the cinema displays can't hold a candle to the color seperation on an eMac.
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According to Apple, they're shadow-mask:
"The built-in video display uses a 17-inch CRT (16-inch viewable diagonal). The CRT uses shadow-mask technology and has a dot pitch of 0.25 mm."

http://developer.apple.com/document.../eMac/3Input-Output/chapter_4_section_13.html
 
vga4life said:
I don't mean to make it sound awful - it's adequately sharp at 1024x768 - but I wouldn't be satisfied with my eMac if I had to use the internal display alone, rather than with a real 19" FD Trinitron tube as the external (and primary) display.

-vga4life
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And how much does one of those cost? Probably as much as an eMac, or pretty close.
 
Apple Special Deals section

The Apple Special Deals section may be an indicator of something:

They cleared out a TON of different configs of eMacs this morning for $499-$699

I bought 2.

The best deal is the one without an optical drive or modem for $529 - you can get the same drive that they use in the combo drive eMacs for $33 shipped from many online sources.
 
adzoox said:
The best deal is the one without an optical drive or modem for $529 - you can get the same drive that they use in the combo drive eMacs for $33 shipped from many online sources.
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I'd only be concerned that the no-optical model might not have a hinged door to allow the installation of an internal drive. Let us know if it does.

-vga4life
 
ijimk said:
so as of now what macs are able to run tiger? Is it G5 tower, G5 imac, G4 tower, G4 power book? any others? if not can we expect the ibooks will support tiger on an upgrade? same question applies to the emacs.
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Almost everything that Panther supports, Tiger will support. It's just higher end features that might not work so well. Just like with Panther and Jaguar with things like Quartz Exreme, it will just scale it back based on CPU and graphics card.
 
What if Apple put a 15 inch LCD screen for the new eMacs and covered the front with plastic as they do for the iPod and iMac G5. Have the new eMac with no Optical drive just a bare bone, surfing, email, work on office documents, and iLife (except iDVD) and sell it for $599 USD.

No optical Drive means it will be smaller, a bit, cheaper, need an iPod or USB flash disk to save and put work on to the desktop and it can NetBoot.

Also have the option for the display to be turned off and allow it to be used with some other display. Better yet toss the display and you have a cheap under $500 USD G4 for the masses. Since I see so many people complain over we want a headless Mac. ;) :)
 
solvs said:
Almost everything that Panther supports, Tiger will support. It's just higher end features that might not work so well. Just like with Panther and Jaguar with things like Quartz Exreme, it will just scale it back based on CPU and graphics card.
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Quartz Extreme has been replaced by Core Image

If you don't have a supporting Core Image video card, it won't install it. Same with Core Audio no supporting processor speed it will not install it.

TIger will seem a lot like Panther, with a few added features, if you are running on an old mac. You will have all the usually GUI goodies, along with spotlight, however NO Core Image and Audio. :(
 
m a y a said:
Quartz Extreme has been replaced by Core Image

If you don't have a supporting Core Image video card, it won't install it. Same with Core Audio no supporting processor speed it will not install it.

TIger will seem a lot like Panther, with a few added features, if you are running on an old mac. You will have all the usually GUI goodies, along with spotlight, however NO Core Image and Audio. :(
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what is a "supporting Core Image" video card?
 
Santaduck said:
it's "tomorrow"...
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This has already been mentioned earlier in the thread...

I never thought that the purported source of the rumor was at all accurate, so I suspected that no update would occur.
 
vga4life said:
I'd only be concerned that the no-optical model might not have a hinged door to allow the installation of an internal drive. Let us know if it does.

-vga4life
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Yes it does - I buy them all the time - it is secured from the inside with a little tab though.
 
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