New eMacs Too...

[Yvan256]

Depends on your currency, I guess.

BTW the eMac/iMac price difference is NOT 300$US as someone said.

eMac = 799$US
iMac = 1299$US

Last time I checked, that was a 500$US price difference, NOT 300$US.

Edit: of course, if you try to put the same amount of RAM, same HD size, same wireless options... It's not the same price difference anymore.

 

[le_coc]

Yeah ordered a 20" iMac + 15" Powerbook !!
Was waiting allready a longtime!

Ta Da!!!!!

 

[CrackedButter]

the low end should be $499 and the high end $699 ... have they looked at what that kind of money will get you in the PC biz these days ?

But how much can you get OSX, iLife and such and such for in the PC biz these days?

 

[MacG]

All this and a price drop!

The 20" model is also $200 less in Canada. used to be 2399, now $2199. Great deal.

 

[Yvan256]

the low end should be $499 and the high end $699 ... have they looked at what that kind of money will get you in the PC biz these days ?

Sorry but 499$US is the price of the Mac mini. And you want to get an eMac at that price?

 

[Yvan256]

Fast mini + new 17" flat CRT: $700

eMac is not a good deal.

eMac has a faster HD, two memory slot (I think), a WAY BETTER GPU and twice the VRAM.

I'd take the new eMac over a Mac mini + new 17" CRT any day!

 

[weg]

Hopefully they will at least bring the iBook up to 512Mb standard.

Unless it comes with 512MB integrated, i.e. not 256 soldered in and another 256 blocking the expansion slot (as in the 12" BP), I hope they don't increase the standard RAM to 512MB (Apple RAM costs almost twice as much as Crucial RAM).

 

[legalnut]

Sorry but 499$US is the price of the Mac mini. And you want to get an eMac at that price?

After a cursory search on Dell's site this is what I came up with...

Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Free 15" Flat Panel - Online Only!
FREE (3-5 Day) Shipping with System purchase - Online Only!
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB!
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade!
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35!
Featured at

$699

 

[hvfsl]

With new PMs, iMacs and eMacs, it will be interesting to see what they release at WWDC. The only thing I can think of is new iPods. The PowerBooks and iBooks were updated not too long ago and the Mac mini is only a few months old.

 

[jholzner]

With new PMs, iMacs and eMacs, it will be interesting to see what they release at WWDC. The only thing I can think of is new iPods. The PowerBooks and iBooks were updated not too long ago and the Mac mini is only a few months old.

The iBooks were updated in October 2004!

 

[JRM PowerPod]

After a cursory search on Dell's site this is what I came up with...

Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Free 15" Flat Panel - Online Only!
FREE (3-5 Day) Shipping with System purchase - Online Only!
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB!
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade!
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35!
Featured at

$699

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION

Brilliant OS, that's all i say.

I wonder how you would feel owning a crippled version of a really ^$%* OS.

 

[Yvan256]

With new PMs, iMacs and eMacs, it will be interesting to see what they release at WWDC. The only thing I can think of is new iPods. The PowerBooks and iBooks were updated not too long ago and the Mac mini is only a few months old.

PowerBooks updates are recent, but NOT the iBooks. In fact the iBooks are over-due for an update.

 

[~Shard~]

oops! Yeah - I shoulda checked for this thread first but was already there. This was prob the appropriate thread.

Just bugging ya, no worries.

Hopefully they will at least bring the iBook up to 512Mb standard.

That appears to be Apple's new policy, so it defintely will happen. I suppose in one way that would be a good indication if iBook updates were going to happen soon - if Apple simply upgrades the standard memory on the iBooks and nothing else, there probably won't be updates for a while. Otherwise, Apple will wait to upgrade the standard memory until it makes a proper update to the line, with other enhancements as well.

 

[~Shard~]

PowerBooks updates are recent, but NOT the iBooks. In fact the iBooks are over-due for an update.

Yes indeed - just check out the Buyer's Guide.

 

[iGary]

BTW the eMac/iMac price difference is NOT 300$US as someone said.

eMac = 799$US
iMac = 1299$US

Last time I checked, that was a 500$US price difference, NOT 300$US.

Edit: of course, if you try to put the same amount of RAM, same HD size, same wireless options... It's not the same price difference anymore.

The top of the line eMac is 999.00, but I see what you're getting at - base to base comparison.

 

[isgoed]

With new PMs, iMacs and eMacs, it will be interesting to see what they release at WWDC. The only thing I can think of is new iPods. The PowerBooks and iBooks were updated not too long ago and the Mac mini is only a few months old.

I am guessing new freescale processors. It's either:

• the 90nm 200mhz bus G4,
• the 666mhz bus pci-express ddr2 G4,
• or the dual core version of that one.

 

[cube]

eMac has a faster HD, two memory slot (I think), a WAY BETTER GPU and twice the VRAM.

I'd take the new eMac over a Mac mini + new 17" CRT any day!

Maximum RAM on the eMac is 1 GiB, as with the mini.

If you must count $60 for Apple mouse and keyboard (instead of $20 for better ones from some other brand), $40 is a fair price for faster HD and graphics.

Apple has an excuse until the unacceptable graphics of the mini are upgraded, then
you can use the $100 savings to get a _good_ 22" monitor off ebay, instead of wasting the first $100 on a new 17".

 

[x86isslow]

i think this eMac is completely different from the old ones: new GPU, and two Firewire 400 ports.

i look forward to replacing my parents' emac with this one

good solid update apple!

--
a bit off topic
to those people who have nothing better to do than spam eMac threads with "i think they're ugly" posts, move along, go outside, breathe the fresh air, get a feel for the real world…

 

[the Rebel]

After a cursory search on Dell's site this is what I came up with...

Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Free 15" Flat Panel - Online Only!
FREE (3-5 Day) Shipping with System purchase - Online Only!
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB!
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade!
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35!
Featured at

$699

Your $699 Dell has more RAM than the $799 eMac and Dell will give you a crappy printer for free (expensive ink).

Both have the same size hard drive.

The eMac has a 17" screen powered by an ATI Radeon 9600 with 64MB of dedicated video memory. The Dell has a 15" screen with an integrated video chipset using shared memory; not only does shared memory suck, it also means a reduction in system memory. I would rather have a computer with 256MB system memory and 64MB video memory than a computer with 512MB of shared memory.

The eMac has a Combo drive; you did not state what kind of drive the Dell has, but some low end Dell's still only come with CD reader. Hopefully for $699 the Dimension 3000 would at least have a CD burner, but I would not count on it being able to read DVDs.

The Dell has Windows XP Home Edition whereas the eMac has Mac OS X Tiger. What other software does the Dell have, if any? Maybe a WordPerfect word processor? The eMac comes with iLife ’05 (latest versions of iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD and GarageBand), AppleWorks, Quicken 2005, 2005 World Book Multimedia Reference Suite, Nanosaur 2, Marble Blast Gold, iChat AV 3, iCal 2, Font Book, etc.

Oh yeah, the eMac also has FireWire.

Seems to me that you get a lot more value with the $799 eMac than the $699 Dell.

 

[deputy_doofy]

After a cursory search on Dell's site this is what I came up with...

Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Free 15" Flat Panel - Online Only!
FREE (3-5 Day) Shipping with System purchase - Online Only!
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB!
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade!
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35!
10,000+ more software titles available, such as w32.spybot.LXJ, w32.spybot.worm, w32.spybot.FCD, w32.spybot.OFN, w32.spybot.EAS, NIMDA, etc.
Featured at $699

You forgot something so I added it to your list....

 

[Le Big Mac]

Eep, I'd take a low-end iMac over an eMac without question. Buy the time you upgrade the eMacs RAM and such, it's not THAT much less money, but it's a whole lot less computer

True, but multiply the price difference by 50 or 100, and ask a school if that $15-30k makes a difference in their budget. If you don't need the extra power for what you're doing, and you're really constrained, it's a decent value. Not the best value, but a decent one.

BTW, the low-end emac is still better than my G4 iMac i bought two years ago for $1700. That's computers, of course.

 

[Mord]

the low end should be $499 and the high end $699 ... have they looked at what that kind of money will get you in the PC biz these days ?

Base Model Includes:
IntelTM PentiumTM 4 processor 520 with HT Technology (2.8GHz, 800MHz)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition.
256MB Shared7 Single Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz
15" Flat Panel Monitor
40GB6 Ultra/ATA 100 Hard Drive
Integrated IntelTM Graphics Media Accelerator 900TM
90-Day Limited Warranty4 and At-Home Service5

$820 at dell


the cost of upgradeing the graphics card to somthing about equal to a 9600 is about the same as the money saved going back to a 15" lcd.

i'm not saying a 1.4GHz G4 is as fast as a p4 but has feature sets go everything is about the same for the same price bar the cpu.

 

[zac4mac]

I'm not expecting major PB updates anytime soon. Freescale is in the early phases of debugging the 8641. Still on the single core, no news yet of a real silicon dual core(my contact is midway in the foodchain in Austin). Good news is the single lit up right away, first batch booted OS X. I'm told that's rare. Still looks like late this year, early next for a dual core PB. I just hope it really happens and doesn't come so late it gets shelved like Moto's G5.

Z

 

[jholzner]

So, am I right to assume that the eMacs now support coreimage? Apple lists the supported card as 9600 xt. Is that the same thing?

 

[hvfsl]

The iBooks were updated in October 2004!

I thought they were updated more recently than that.

But unless Apple do something new to the iBooks, I can't seem a speed bumped iBook range being worthy enough to show off at WWDC. If they were planning to do a new version of the iBook, I would have thought they would update the PB range first (or at least update them both at the same time).

So, am I right to assume that the eMacs now support coreimage? Apple lists the supported card as 9600 xt. Is that the same thing?

The Radeon 9600 is just a slower version of the Radeon 9600XT, so I can't see any reason why the new eMacs and iMacs won't support core image. I wouldn't be supprised if the new eMacs/iMacs are actually shipping with R9600XTs that Apple has clocked down so they don't have faster graphics performance than the PowerBooks.